Club Sale | It’s done!

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They would make more money in interest by leaving their cash from the sale of the club in the bank. The whole situation with the Glazers wanting to stay doesn’t make sense.
We will see. From excitement when we heard they would sell it is getting tiring. Actually thought there would be more big name bidders. Couldn't account for greedy owners.
 
It's highly unlikely as Rat's outbidded jassim twice already
According to reports... but in reality we really don't know who's offered what due to the NDA's. We're just going by what the "leaks" say, and lets be honest, they're not all together reliable are they
 
It's highly unlikely as Rat's outbidded jassim twice already
If that’s true then they were full sale bids. That would likely make him the preferred buyer Raine had selected. Therefore I’d assume the third round was all about squeezing more money out of the Qataris. One final chance to put their money where their mouth is. And they fluffed it up again.
 
Get ready for deadline No.4 then it will get funny after that. SR will pull out and head to Liverpool and give Klopp the money he needs.
 
If that’s true then they were full sale bids. That would likely make him the preferred buyer Raine had selected. Therefore I’d assume the third round was all about squeezing more money out of the Qataris. One final chance to put their money where their mouth is. And they fluffed it up again.
You said it right there... If thats true.

We don't know whats true and whats not. I don't trust any of these leaks as we've learnt in the past that they're not all together truthful. We'll find out soon enough in all honesty
 
You said it right there... If thats true.

We don't know whats true and whats not. I don't trust any of these leaks as we've learnt in the past that they're not all together truthful. We'll find out soon enough in all honesty
With all the mainstream media running the story I think we can be confident even without knowing exact figures that the INEOS bid is a higher valuation than Qatars bid. You’d have to assume that he is therefore in pole position, and the 51% option in his offer may make it even more attractive.
 
Are we more likely to vote for a super league if Glazers stay in some capacity? I think we should be very careful what we wish for.

Vote none of the above.
 
I know we said for a long time that we could compete without oil money, given the financial behemoth we are. Assuming the debt was 'Restructured' at a lower interest rate (however that works) and perhaps added to for a stadium revamp - would we still be able to compete and possibly pay that debt down while doing so?

Genuine question to those more financially literate than I am, since Jim looks to be the front runner at this point.
 
With all the mainstream media running the story I think we can be confident even without knowing exact figures that the INEOS bid is a higher valuation than Qatars bid. You’d have to assume that he is therefore in pole position, and the 51% option in his offer may make it even more attractive.
Yep but you also have to question the validity of the leak. Yes there likely will be leaks, but we don't know where from or who. Seeing as everyone is under NDA's, what purpose does it serve by someone from Raine leaking the details of a bid, if not to try and force the hands of each party to offer even more?
 
They would make more money in interest by leaving their cash from the sale of the club in the bank. The whole situation with the Glazers wanting to stay doesn’t make sense.
It never made sense. Had they sold us in 2013 for let’s say, £2bn net for all 6 siblings, £350m each, if they put that into the average top 50 hedge fund, that money could very well be tripled by now. And that’s why the other siblings were never keen on keeping us, because a football club is a very poor financial investment, Joel and Avram are clearly into running us for more than just financial gains, if not for any sentiment then they must be somewhat enamored by the prestige of being Utd owners.
 
With all the mainstream media running the story I think we can be confident even without knowing exact figures that the INEOS bid is a higher valuation than Qatars bid. You’d have to assume that he is therefore in pole position, and the 51% option in his offer may make it even more attractive.

I do wonder though, whether the reality behind those reports is as follows:

1. SJR bid for 51% at x per share (let’s say £10 per share for ease); and

2. SJ bid for the 69% (shares held by the glazers) at y per share (£9.50 per share for ease.

The reports stating that SJR has outbid SJ would be partly true without it meaning he has put more money on the table. Also note some reports stated that SJR’s bid ‘valued the club higher than SJ’s bid’ rather than stating he had made a bigger offer.

Think we all just need to chill and watch it unfold. For a couple days.
 
Guess who’s back, back again…



Recycling this joke because it got no love last time:
Thomas Zilliacus confirms his third bid for the final stage. He will now be asking United fans to raise over £5.5bn taking his bid past the £6bn asking price.
 
The whole situation with the Glazers wanting to stay doesn’t make sense.

It doesn't make a lot of sense, no.

They must be very confident that the brand will grow significantly. Which seems a bit odd unless they know something we don't. But then again, if they do, why aren't the rest of the gang keen on staying too?

(Or: perhaps they're idiots. That's always been a real possibility as far as I'm concerned.)
 
Not sure how his age matters. Ultimately he is a proven investor in sports teams and an actual fan.

...of Chelsea. If he's keeping the Glazers or the debt he can fek off.
 
I do wonder though, whether the reality behind those reports is as follows:

1. SJR bid for 51% at x per share (let’s say £10 per share for ease); and

2. SJ bid for the 69% (shares held by the glazers) at y per share (£9.50 per share for ease.

The reports stating that SJR has outbid SJ would be partly true without it meaning he has put more money on the table. Also note some reports stated that SJR’s bid ‘valued the club higher than SJ’s bid’ rather than stating he had made a bigger offer.

Think we all just need to chill and watch it unfold. For a couple days.
That’s a very good point and perfectly feasible, that the different percentages are priced differently. It’s all about EV though so even if the bigger offer is for the smaller percentage it still values the business higher than the Qatar bid.
 
It doesn't make a lot of sense, no.

They must be very confident that the brand will grow significantly. Which seems a bit odd unless they know something we don't. But then again, if they do, why aren't the rest of the gang keen on staying too?

(Or: perhaps they're idiots. That's always been a real possibility as far as I'm concerned.)
Rumours is that they wanted out some time ago, aren't really that interested in the sport, etc. Whereas Joel I believe still has some interest, and Avram is just there for the money. Back in 2010 the Glazers turned down a £1bn bid and the valuation has grown nearly six times in just over a decade. There is no real evidence that we've peaked at this time.
 
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