Club Sale | It’s done!

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LordSpud said:
This would be hilarious is a potential Qatar bid got quashed due to other clubs vetoing it. First the Glazer takeover bid has now had things in place to ensure nothing similar happens to another club in future and now maybe a block incoming despite other clubs have similar owners :lol::rolleyes:
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I can’t see anything that this will be stopped if the Qatari’s end up owning us regardless of what other clubs think.

Are Arsenal forgetting who their main shirt sponsors are & what the name of their stadium is?
 
Von Mistelroum said:
All quiet on the western front? Definitely looking like the Glazers want to stay and are now ensuring that it stays quiet for a while to let the 'excitement' die down before sowing the initial seeds of their sticking around. If they play it slowly and just let it happen little by little it will soften the blow and they can get away with it. Maybe spend a few million this summer and it'll all be forgotten by the regular fan in the street.
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Yup. It's what I called some weeks ago yet I was castigated and called a WUM, troll etc. Hopefully a lesson for those posters, but I won't hold my breath.
 
Berbasbullet said:
Does this not mean there are concerns whether he can afford it or not? Havent seen evidence of a personal wealth close to SJR? Might be wrong though.
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No. Just means that the funds are his and his alone and this is being used to further distance himself from the "state ownership'" that's being banded about.
 
Giggsyking said:
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If this rule was applied to all the clubs equally, then that would be brilliant. I would be all in favor of that. However it is supremely unfair to say this rule should be put in because United might be taken over by a nation state, while it's not been a problem with City and Newcastle. If they say let's get this rule in place, but that means that City and Newcastle's owners are made to sell up, then by all means, I am in favor. But we all know that's not going to be the case. A state owned club is only a problem now because it's United.
 
HarryP said:
Yup. It's what I called some weeks ago yet I was castigated and called a WUM, troll etc. Hopefully a lesson for those posters, but I won't hold my breath.
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You a strange habit of patting yourself on the back when absolutely nothing has changed to prove you correct as of yet. Odd behaviour.

No one is learning a lesson based on your bizarre fantasies about the Glazers staying.
 
Alonzo said:
My ideal scenario is now:
glazers sell minority stake to Elliot.
In the medium term, glazers breach clauses
Elliot assumes full control
Glazers get completely fecked
Elliot steadies ship
Sells United at a profit

yes, it’s not putting the short term interests of the club at the forefront,and it’s petty, but i don’t care. The thought of that family being financially ruined (relatively, of course. But it would be seriously damaging to all of the rats) is too good to pass up.
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You realise the option for what you ultimately want is currently on the table without all that extra bullshit you just made up?
 
Von Mistelroum said:
All quiet on the western front? Definitely looking like the Glazers want to stay and are now ensuring that it stays quiet for a while to let the 'excitement' die down before sowing the initial seeds of their sticking around. If they play it slowly and just let it happen little by little it will soften the blow and they can get away with it. Maybe spend a few million this summer and it'll all be forgotten by the regular fan in the street.
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It’s Easter and Ramadan, what exactly are you expecting to happen this weekend?

This deal is always going to run until the end of June. Also, I’m sure the actual bidders for the club are in on ‘letting the excitement die down’, yeah that’s sounds like something someone with billions of dollars on the table would willingly take part in for zero fecking reason.
 
TheReligion said:
You a strange habit of patting yourself on the back when absolutely nothing has changed to prove you correct as of yet. Odd behaviour.
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crossy1686 said:
Definitely a WUM, absolutely nothing has happened.
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You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
 
HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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No it’s you that doesn’t get it.

You are acting like some kind of oracle on the deal and keep popping back to congratulate yourself and teach other posters a lesson..

The amusing thing is nothing has changed and you are yet to be proven right. The arrogance is astonishing.
 
HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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I think the fact is you know nothing more than we do, because of all the NDA's that have been signed.
When something happens, i'm sure we'll know, but as of yet, it seems no one knows anything thats going on.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
All quiet on the western front? Definitely looking like the Glazers want to stay and are now ensuring that it stays quiet for a while to let the 'excitement' die down before sowing the initial seeds of their sticking around. If they play it slowly and just let it happen little by little it will soften the blow and they can get away with it. Maybe spend a few million this summer and it'll all be forgotten by the regular fan in the street.
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Not a chance it will soften any blows and certainly won't be sweetened by spending money
 
HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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Get this guy banned he is a morale killer
 
HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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Give it a rest ffs.
 
Berbasbullet said:
Does this not mean there are concerns whether he can afford it or not? Havent seen evidence of a personal wealth close to SJR? Might be wrong though.
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I cant imagine hed have gotten to thie stage without showing proof that he's able to fund his bid
 
This is an interesting piece from The Athletic (seems to be free to read) about current ownership, how the shares are distributed and who makes up the 31% of shares not in Glazers ownership.
Man Utd owners who are not called Glazer
I think it’s encouraging that Darcie and Bryan have the largest % after Joel, and Avi who is said to be the most resistant to selling up has a relatively small shareholding percentage at just 14%.
 
HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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How do you know any of this?

So what you're saying is that because there's no media outlet is printing "Don’t worry @HarryP, things are still progressing today" every single day, the sale is off because the Glazers are 'staling'?

Why don't you just wait until the end of June if you don't understand how companies are bought and sold?
 
stevoc said:
A lot of people feel it's pretty fecking relevant.
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It doesn’t matter what people think, they have absolutely zero say in who buys the club. The only opinions that matter are the decision makers at the PL whether they block the takeover or not. If they say it’s all good then everyone else’s opinion is irrelevant.
 
Plant0x84 said:
This is an interesting piece from The Athletic (seems to be free to read) about current ownership, how the shares are distributed and who makes up the 31% of shares not in Glazers ownership.
Man Utd owners who are not called Glazer
I think it’s encouraging that Darcie and Bryan have the largest % after Joel, and Avi who is said to be the most resistant to selling up has a relatively small shareholding percentage at just 14%.
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14% of class B shares is still enough for 100% control of the club though against class A shares, so if he really doesn't want to sell, anyone who buys is doing so as a minority shareholder (effectively) which massively limits the number of potential buyers
 
jm99 said:
14% of class B shares is still enough for 100% control of the club though against class A shares, so if he really doesn't want to sell, anyone who buys is doing so as a minority shareholder (effectively) which massively limits the number of potential buyers
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Your are being Naive what you are basing this upon is the current information but if majority of Glazer's want to sell they would simply rewrite the Company's Charter and alter the controlling Shares structure before selling them .

Anyway not buying that there is disagreement amongst Glazers about selling the Club atall .
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
It doesn’t matter what people think, they have absolutely zero say in who buys the club. The only opinions that matter are the decision makers at the PL whether they block the takeover or not. If they say it’s all good then everyone else’s opinion is irrelevant.
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We're on a football discussion forum in a thread with over 1000 pages discussing this takeover.

So as I say it's pretty relevant thing to discuss.
 
gajender said:
Your are being Naive what you are basing this upon is the current information but if majority of Glazer's want to sell they would simply rewrite the Company's Charter and alter the controlling Shares structure before selling them .

Anyway not buying that there is disagreement amongst Glazers about selling the Club atall .
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It depends how malcolm left it, we don't know the ins and outs, it might be it requires unanimous support to change it.

I do think they want a full sale though, I agree with that, they wouldn't have started this process and risk making themselves look like morons in the eyes of the business world, risking future opportunities. It's just a smokescreen to raise the price
 
The reality is, most Premier League clubs are intimidated by the prospect of Utd being owned by anything that resembles state ownership.

The meltdown if/when Utd are bought out by Sheikh Jassim is going to be truly popcorn levels of epic!
 
stevoc said:
We're on a football discussion forum in a thread with over 1000 pages discussing this takeover.

So as I say it's pretty relevant thing to discuss.
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We can discuss all we like that’s fine it is a forum after all. The point I’m making is all our opinions are irrelevant to the Sheikh potentially taking over as none of us have any power or influence over the decision, that’s down the Glazers and the PL and them only.
 
jm99 said:
14% of class B shares is still enough for 100% control of the club though against class A shares, so if he really doesn't want to sell, anyone who buys is doing so as a minority shareholder (effectively) which massively limits the number of potential buyers
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jm99 said:
It depends how malcolm left it, we don't know the ins and outs, it might be it requires unanimous support to change it.
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“any potential merger would be structured under Cayman Islands law.
In most cases, Cayman Islands law requires either a simple majority or a special resolution, which is two-thirds or more for approval.”
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HarryP said:
You guys still don't get it.

As I said, if the Glazers had decided to stay, they were always going to drag things out like this rather than an abrupt announcement. The fact that 'nothing is happening' IS the point! It means everything is happening in terms of them staying.
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Drag things out like what? We're taking about the sale/purchase of an asset worth up to (according to the Glazers anyway) £6bn, not a £500 car from the AutoTrader. The average purchase time for a house in the UK is 6 months , and buying United is a slightly bigger deal than that with lots more to do. Besides which the idea that every detail would be reported in the media is naive in the extreme.

You may turn out to be correct and the Glazers end up staying (although I doubt it at this point), but the lack of information in the media about recent developments is no indication that you are correct.
 
Blood Mage said:
We all know the answer to that but if no-one can legally prove it it's irrelevant.
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You're not the first person today who's tried to frame any debate as irrelevant, shifting from a bid that's best for the club to what's economically best for the club seems to be de rigueur too.
 
We need an rvn said:
I'm pretty sure the same thing happened when the Saudi's invested in Newcastle - but the attempts were unsuccessful.

If the Saudi's can buy Newcastle, Qatar can get United
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Simon talked about it 2 days ago how the PL couldnt do anything about the PIF buying Newcastle.
 
NWRed said:
Drag things out like what? We're taking about the sale/purchase of an asset worth up to (according to the Glazers anyway) £6bn, not a £500 car from the AutoTrader. The average purchase time for a house in the UK is 6 months , and buying United is a slightly bigger deal than that with lots more to do. Besides which the idea that every detail would be reported in the media is naive in the extreme.

You may turn out to be correct and the Glazers end up staying (although I doubt it at this point), but the lack of information in the media about recent developments is no indication that you are correct.
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@HarryP is a troll mate, ignore him. He's stating stuff as if it's fact. He thinks that the Glazers won't sell and is backing his theory up on nothing but fresh air.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
All quiet on the western front? Definitely looking like the Glazers want to stay and are now ensuring that it stays quiet for a while to let the 'excitement' die down before sowing the initial seeds of their sticking around. If they play it slowly and just let it happen little by little it will soften the blow and they can get away with it. Maybe spend a few million this summer and it'll all be forgotten by the regular fan in the street.
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If I can take 14months of waiting it out before buying my current house, if I were the Glazers I could wait 6-8 months to get the best deal out of the bidders!
 
Mr. Robot said:
@HarryP is a troll mate, ignore him. He's stating stuff as if it's fact. He thinks that the Glazers won't sell and is backing his theory up on nothing but fresh air.
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That doesn't necessarily make him a troll mate, just confident. Like the people who insist the Glazers have no choice but to sell, Qatar is the only offer that will be accepted, its only a matter of time, etc
 
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