Club ownership | Senior management team talk

It’s not about being desperate to support Ratcliffe. It’s about a) not attributing the Glazers monumental mismanagement and incompetence to any other party either forgetting who is really to blame or absolving them some how and b) not immediately shitting on those trying to sort it out, mostly because of a temper tantrum because we lost a game of football again.

INEOS have clear not been perfect, and there will be bumps along the way but the club is such a mess it’ll take a long time to sort
out and rebuild. I will judge them on results, but now isn’t the time for that.

Football is supposed to be fun and entertaining so forgive me if I chose to look on things positively where possible instead of revelling in doom and gloom and rage and ruin.
You jump on any criticism of them as if your mother’s good name has been sullied. The Glazers can be terrible and INEOS can be terrible. Two things can be true at once and unfortunately for us all the evidence points to both being terrible. Would you have applauded cost cutting and price rises three years ago?

Why do you continually lie about what the investment money was for?

I can assure you there is nothing fun about the club at the moment. That includes your precious owners. They have in fact made things worse.
 
Must admit, the start to the INEOS reign is worrying.

While not wanting the Qatar bid either, my worries about INEOS were what they'd 'achieved' - not achieved - at Nice and Lausanne. The way they'd run those - failing with their money to take them particularly high in much smaller leagues as they seemed to run their clubs more for sustainability than success.

And the words, tone and early actions so far suggest they'll be doing the same here. We seem to be being run like a post-Abramovich Chelsea - targeting a very young squad for sell on value and cheaper wages, treating the academy as a cash cow rather than as something to be proud of the players it produces for the first team, etc. All done with an eye on the books, not onfield success. Certainly in the short term.

It's still early days of course. And if it wasn't for the early models already creating that worry before they arrived then probably wouldn't stand out as an issue already. But it's certainly look like that's the plan here as well - initially at least. As @mazhar13 said on a thread yesterday when I mentioned similar, maybe we'll start to benefit when the new PL financial rules come into place.
 
Anyone think that there is a silver lining to the clubs decline?

We will be at our lowest position in the table ever and no hope of being in the CL for a few years at least. Glazers can just sell up as they won’t put money in and INEOS won’t put any more money in unless they get equity.

They could sell to Qatar and that is why they put in a clause that they could sell all shares (including INEOS) to someone after 18 months.
 
You wonder if our poor home record has anything to do with the crap workplace culture these lot are fostering? I bet all the non-playing staff are feckin' miserable these days.
 
Anyone think that there is a silver lining to the clubs decline?

We will be at our lowest position in the table ever and no hope of being in the CL for a few years at least. Glazers can just sell up as they won’t put money in and INEOS won’t put any more money in unless they get equity.

They could sell to Qatar and that is why they put in a clause that they could sell all shares (including INEOS) to someone after 18 months.

No chance. The new stadium and surrounding infrastructure will be a gold mine, football results are mostly irrelevant, we still will be an attractive/popular brand for 10+ years.
 
I’ll be honest. This is not looking good so far
 
Would be utter incompetence from INEOS and Glazers at this stage if we DIDNT get another forward in.

It'd be greater incompetence to let Rashford and Antony stay, or get shafted in negotiations for another albatross.

If you’re going to call something an “absolute failure” at least back it up. City were not an absolute failure until they won the CL.

Psg still cannot win the only trophy which matters.

Folly to think Ineos could alleviate a decade-plus of chronic mismanagement within one season, and the alternative (Qatar) may improve finances, but fail where it matters most.
 
Time to run INEOS out of the football club, they are a disgrace and this transfer window has tipped me over the edge

Complete sale is needed, run both INEOS and the glazers out of the football club
 
Obviously way too early to see the full effect of their reign, but like the new manager performance, an absolute shitshow on every level so far. Expected short-term, as told by Amorim, but this worse than I could have imagined. We're clinging our hope to a new manager finding his feet when given a full pre-season and that youth signings will pay off long-term, but flirting with relegation and with no goalscorers at all for a full season is really pushing it.