McTominay isn’t one of our best players.
Club ownership | Senior management team talk
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
We are finally suffering the consequences of those leeches dragging us into debt for 20 years
Garnacho is one of our better players, I’ll go one further he’s one of the better young players throughout Europe and his stats tell you that
There aren’t many players in this squad demanding a 70m fee he’s only 20 his potential is huge
He ain’t that good.
For a 20 year old talent of course he is. Scary times if we’re selling Garnacho and signing the likes of Zirkzee make no mistake about it Garnacho has more talent in his left bollock
Sad thing is with Garnacho, Yoro, Mainoo and Amad we have a very good base of really good young talent something to build around
I think what's interesting is that they're putting a lot of trust in Amorim. Potentially selling a player with huge potential because he doesn't (yet) fit into a 343 formation.
Garnacho is 20 ffs. Feels like we'll regret this.
Neither was Ronaldo at 20. Its an absolutely insane decision to sell him now. Once he's gone, we'll have a worrying lack of pace in the attacking third until the summer. And even then, does anyone trust us to bring in someone better?
What has Ronaldo got to do with Garnacho?
And spending a fortune on transfer fees and wages for 2nd rate or past-it players for over a decade. What's happening now is more what the consequences should be for that level of incompetence.
Yeah all of it combined has led to this mess
How many more Christmas parties have to be cancelled to buy a striker
Wish I knew
M&S vouchers are dead, we need a striker
Sign of things to come with us I assume?
I would think it is because they plan to invest more into United to own us outright.
The amount of overreaction because we have not spent 200m in January is unreal.
We bough a ST in Summer and bought one that cant control a ball summer before.
The ST market is poor at the moment, we have players that need to go. The failure of the past is hampering us, but ofcourse you dont care about that and think the club has an unlimited credit card allowance.
Yea, I think so. Since ineos took over that team has faltered both in talent and resources. I wasn’t a fan of sjr and this is a main reason why.
We can't afford transfers, where is this fabled money coming from?
Ratcliffe is penny pinching M&S vouchers! Glazers hardly put any of their own money back in!
Literally that is what you do, and when I provide depth you ignore it. But you know what, I logged in today to pay respects to a legend, which I hope we can find common ground on and move on.
This is a question ive asked on here a couple of times and haven't really been given a proper answer, the fact is the club cant afford a new stadium at this point so it'll be more debt lumped on tbe club and we shouldnt even be thinking about starting work on building a new stadium until the massive amount of debt we already have has been addressed.
Not holding my breath but one can hope.
Dont know how these particular fiscal entities work in the UK, but lots of clubs found various ways of financing, by either creating a company that leases the stadium to the "club" or by separating the operations, since it can be called construction, or city landscape recovery.
This creates a easier way for banks to finance the building, since there are always "studies" showing the growth of revenue involved.
A new stadium will also be easier to sell on "naming rights", since a remodelling could obstruct changing the historical Old Trafford.
Yeah you are absolutely spot on, there seems to be zero consideration whatsoever from INEOS about addressing the 20 years of debt
Shunty made a very good point on the Amorim Rebuild thread. INEOS should sell to someone who can make us compete if they can't overcome PSR issues. Personally I think the boat for full sale elsewhere has sailed.
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Let’s hope theres a voucher for a new stadium when you buy 11 turkeys
Good they are looking at building/redeveloping on current site and not moving to another area.
#GameModel
Well Ratcliffe... Time to stop thinking whether the coffee machines are really necessary and start investing heavily in that team you bought shares in
Omar Barreda’s plan of aiming to win the title in 2028 seems optimistic!
The more I think about it the more pissed off I get that they kept ETH through the summer. fecking embarassing decision, and it's not only cost us the season but also hamstrung the guy that they brought in.
Well, the team they got now is not good for anything. Half the squad needs to go.
Amorim is a good signing, but if they are not going to back him up, it’s not going to work out.
If we’re not getting any new players this month then you may as well hibernate until July.
Whoever okayed the idea that we should have kept ETH for this season, that was really bad. If it was Ashworth’s call then he absolutely deserved to go.
Whoever okayed the idea that we should have kept ETH for this season, that was really bad. If it was Ashworth’s call then he absolutely deserved to go.
Horrible decision.
It was the wrong call in hindsight but, more importantly, it committed us to a direction that hiring a 3-4-3 coach was obviously the opposite direction for. All the talk about 'Game Model' last season looks like hot air, given the Woodward-like 180 turn away from the way we were going until 5 minutes before midnight on Amorim.
In reality, having committed to a squad that plays a back four and, in reality, is best playing some variation of a three man midfield, they should have gone for a coach in that vein. Increasingly feels like they pulled the Alexis Sanchez move of priortising 'the coup' of snatching the guy linked with City. Although, with City's squad, I imagine Amorim would be challenging for the title.
I don’t think they even have a long term plan. They proved that with the flip flopping of ETH and now we’re trying to loan multiple players out without a clear plan on who to bring in.
I don’t think this club will ever be anywhere near challenging again. The debt and bad decisions on and off the pitch for the best part of 15 years have killed us there’s no coming back
City could get relegated because of the charges and I’d still put money in them winning a title before us
I don’t think this club will ever be anywhere near challenging again. The debt and bad decisions on and off the pitch for the best part of 15 years have killed us there’s no coming back
City could get relegated because of the charges and I’d still put money in them winning a title before us
Looks like Woodward, Murtough etc were far better than Ineos. At least we were in a top 4 battle every year. It's absolutely atrocious how we've dropped so far since Ineos arrived with there best in class mentality. Sack the board.
That was obvious. They hired a DOF who they had no idea about and then sacked him 3 months later
I'd happily bet that with all the turmoil they've brought into the club for the last 12 months, the few competent people that were at the club (in back end roles) has also been driven out - because competent people generally have choices in the market.
13/14: RvP, Rooney, Welbeck, Chicharito
14/15: Rooney, RvP, Falcao, Welbeck, Chicharito
15/16: Rooney, Martial, Memphis, Chicharito
16/17: Zlatan, Rooney, Memphis, Martial
17/18: Zlatan, Martial, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford
18/19: Lukaku, Sanchez, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood
19/20: Martial, Rashford, Ighalo, Greenwood
20/21: Cavani, Martial, Rashford, Ighalo, Greenwood
21/22: Ronaldo, Cavani, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood
22/23: Ronaldo, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Weghorst
23/24: Martial, Hojlund, Rashford
24/25: Hojlund, Zirkzee, Rashford
14/15: Rooney, RvP, Falcao, Welbeck, Chicharito
15/16: Rooney, Martial, Memphis, Chicharito
16/17: Zlatan, Rooney, Memphis, Martial
17/18: Zlatan, Martial, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford
18/19: Lukaku, Sanchez, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood
19/20: Martial, Rashford, Ighalo, Greenwood
20/21: Cavani, Martial, Rashford, Ighalo, Greenwood
21/22: Ronaldo, Cavani, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood
22/23: Ronaldo, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Weghorst
23/24: Martial, Hojlund, Rashford
24/25: Hojlund, Zirkzee, Rashford
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Aye it was a shocking decision, said it at the time and it just looks worse by the day. It was INEOS’s first major decision since coming in and they made a complete arse of it, probably set us back years now.
Let's bring in a manager who only plays one way and we'll not support him with players in the first window to suit the style.
Makes no sense at all.
Makes no sense at all.
For me, the worries about this started when the rumours began about replacing Ten Hag.
Last season the term 'Game Model' was being spammed out via the Manchester press pack. It was being repeated like the hook of a pop song to the point Ten Hag's pressers were being dominated by it. Yet, when it came time to potentially identifying a replacement, the various coaches seemed to have absolutely nothing in common besides being recogniseable names. Where was the supposed 'Game Model' that we were recruiting against..?
Notably since this season started the idea of a 'Game Model' has vanished...