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Didn’t they march behind a banner with Sir Jim’s face on it before the sale process?

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“We didn’t advocate for INEOS or Sir Jim”

These lads don’t know what they are protesting about. No focus, no consistency- their message gets lost. They should still be hammering the Glazers but instead it’s tickets this, INEOS that, job cuts something else. The Glazers are laughing at them harder than ever.
Also there isn’t an owner alive who will be good enough for the fan base. We’re never going to get behind an ownership and United for the good of the club. Thats why fan ownership would be a disaster too.

Think that's a slight reframing - They were advocating for a full sale and initially Sir Jim was said to be vying with Qatar for a full sale, it was only later his reported stake dropped and dropped again.

In relation to your other comment about "Boycotting" it doesn't work as a lot of them have a season ticket so the funds are already with the club the truth is, apparently sit ins cost the club more money.
 
Last summer’s round of approximately 250 redundancies is set to save the club an annualised cost of between £40m and £45m in the long run. United expect those savings to be realised in the club’s financial results over the course of this year and next.

At that rate, at least 100 more redundancies would cut staffing costs by £18m at the upper end. A figure closer to 200 could save £36m.

But though designed to cut costs in the long run, United will have to pay the short-term price of redundancy packages to departing staff. Costs of £8.6m related to the summer’s restructuring were recorded in United’s first quarter accounts and additional charges of a similar if lesser level can be expected in this next phase.

This is from Mark Critchley's article on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago - surely these numbers are wrong? You're telling me the average wage of the people they are making redundant is ~£180k? I thought this was likely to be mostly administrative people they were getting rid of rather than senior-level specialists?
 
This is from Mark Critchley's article on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago - surely these numbers are wrong? You're telling me the average wage of the people they are making redundant is ~£180k? I thought this was likely to be mostly administrative people they were getting rid of rather than senior-level specialists?
They say 'in the long run', so presumably over a period of years?
 
This is from Mark Critchley's article on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago - surely these numbers are wrong? You're telling me the average wage of the people they are making redundant is ~£180k? I thought this was likely to be mostly administrative people they were getting rid of rather than senior-level specialists?
"in long run" is putting in a lot of hard yards.

Maybe it's avg £36k salaries over 5 years....

Anyways it Glazernomics, none of it makes sense.
 
This is from Mark Critchley's article on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago - surely these numbers are wrong? You're telling me the average wage of the people they are making redundant is ~£180k? I thought this was likely to be mostly administrative people they were getting rid of rather than senior-level specialists?
There has to be more to it than the people costs, surely. Maybe they're also including all the tech systems and fixed assets (e.g., office space) those departments use that will no longer be needed?
 
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They were happy last year. Now that INEOS are doing what they believe needs to be done, all of a sudden protests. We can debate if the policy is right, but they are now ignoring the glazers and only going after INEOS as if they caused the financial issues? They themselves said it's about the glazers.
Like I said, their message is confused. It’s not clear what they want.
I’m all for fan activism but it needs to be better organised than this. That guys performance on talkshite was embarrassing. He didn’t have a clue how to counter Jordan.
 
In relation to your other comment about "Boycotting" it doesn't work as a lot of them have a season ticket so the funds are already with the club the truth is, apparently sit ins cost the club more money.
It’s not really about costing the club money though - it’s the symbolism of not giving it to the Glazers in the first place.

I don’t think there can be any halfway house here, you either support the club or you protest otherwise you’re only cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Green and Gold achieved very little in the grand scheme, black will probably do even less - like Jordan said the Glazers will only leave the club when somebody offers them a big enough cheque and INEOS has set a plan to get back to the top. They will do what they feel is necessary and won’t be swayed by protest.
 
This is from Mark Critchley's article on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago - surely these numbers are wrong? You're telling me the average wage of the people they are making redundant is ~£180k? I thought this was likely to be mostly administrative people they were getting rid of rather than senior-level specialists?
Yeah. Redundancies alone would not get you anywhere close to 40m to 50m in annual savings. A look at q2 quarterly this year (2025) reveals that the 250 reduction in non playing staff during 2024 had little impact on total salaries- the reduction in salaries being attributed primarily to the absence of CL ball.
The other cost cutting exercises we read so much about are all targeting what is referred to in the accounts as "other operational costs", and these costs include matchday expenses, media expenses, commercial expenses, and so on. Overall, these expenses dwarf the salaries we pay to ordinary staff.
 
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Was out this morning and as World Book Day kids were dressed up. However some lads were just in football strips, don't think I saw a United kit at all. Lots of Liverpool and City, quite a few Barcelona and Bellingham shirts. Adults still support United but you do not want to be losing the generations coming up. Not sure the owners realise that young ones now if not in strong United families are attracted by success.
 
Was out this morning and as World Book Day kids were dressed up. However some lads were just in football strips, don't think I saw a United kit at all. Lots of Liverpool and City, quite a few Barcelona and Bellingham shirts. Adults still support United but you do not want to be losing the generations coming up. Not sure the owners realise that young ones now if not in strong United families are attracted by success.
Full kit wankers. :p
 
It’s not really about costing the club money though - it’s the symbolism of not giving it to the Glazers in the first place.

I don’t think there can be any halfway house here, you either support the club or you protest otherwise you’re only cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Green and Gold achieved very little in the grand scheme, black will probably do even less - like Jordan said the Glazers will only leave the club when somebody offers them a big enough cheque and INEOS has set a plan to get back to the top. They will do what they feel is necessary and won’t be swayed by protest.

I don't disagree with a lot of that but I do think in theory the only way to force them out is to make it untenable by costing them money. Would you not take relegation if it meant them leaving?
 
Was out this morning and as World Book Day kids were dressed up. However some lads were just in football strips, don't think I saw a United kit at all. Lots of Liverpool and City, quite a few Barcelona and Bellingham shirts. Adults still support United but you do not want to be losing the generations coming up. Not sure the owners realise that young ones now if not in strong United families are attracted by success.
You're nearly inviting your child to get bullied putting a united kit on them these days
 
You're nearly inviting your child to get bullied putting a united kit on them these days
Sad isn't it. The club need to wake up. Kids want somebody to hero worship, it isn't necessarily about titles at the moment. Somebody like Hojlund could have been but his confidence has been shot to pieces and his form has gone the same way.
 
I don't disagree with a lot of that but I do think in theory the only way to force them out is to make it untenable by costing them money. Would you not take relegation if it meant them leaving?
No, absolutely not. Relegation is never a good thing for a football club but would be devastating for a club like Utd. Just imagine the revenue lost by not being a PL team getting a share of the global TV rights, not being in Europe, and there is no guarantee they would leave even if that did happen.

Plus it wouldn’t cost the Glazers and never has. They don’t put their own money in, they only take out.

Realistically we have to sit tight and hope Sir Jim has some plan around the stadium and debt to get more equity and force them out.