I'd say any with a conscince (like Bruno) are embarrassed to the core about everything. You want to be proud of who you work for and excited going forward, this isn't it. I can see another season of flirting with relegation if this is how they plan to turn things around. The mandate seems to be get rid of big earners and replace them with young inexperienced players, stock the youth with youth players about to break through at other PL clubs by offering them football and high wages, fine but using what data and recruitment? Nobody who moves the needle on or off the pitch is going to want to come here if they have other options
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I'd say any with a conscince (like Bruno) are embarrassed to the core about everything. You want to be proud of who you work for and excited going forward, this isn't it. I can see another season of flirting with relegation if this is how they plan to turn things around. The mandate seems to be get rid of big earners and replace them with young inexperienced players, stock the youth with youth players about to break through at other PL clubs by offering them football and high wages, fine but using what data and recruitment? Nobody who moves the needle on or off the pitch is going to want to come here if they have other options
Right, thank you. Finally realised.
This is why people thought propping up the Glazers with a bunch of incompetent minority investors probably wasnt the best of ideas. But hey I guess those made redundant can console themselves with that moral high ground we're on.
Despicable is the right word
yeah i feel like things are looking worse and worse. Any good will from early on is eroding fast for me with just bad decision after bad decision by INEOS. Some of which were extremely obvious. Bringing back EtH and spending money on his signings was just stupid as hell, and has put us in this mess.
Would you be happy if Amorim is sacked this summer?
Or would you be happy if we made no summer signings?
400 odd jobs to be gone including last round of cuts?
What the hell were they all doing?
What the hell were they all doing?
Hearing you've been sacked due to cost cutting from a bloke who earns more than £4 mil a year must feel shit.
They aren't going to ask for public money for the new stadium and even if they did they wouldn't get it
I just googled and Utd have 1,100 employees vs 520 at City. Is that right or is there more nuance to it?
They aren't losing their canteen or lunch, all that is happening is the menu has been restricted to soup and a sandwich instead of a full meal
If you take away the sentimentality of being a supporter, all you're left with is a feeling of disgust towards an organisation owned by dispictable leeches
“Putting the Manchester in Manchester United,” as SJR termed it back in 2023 is cruelly ironic.
The Manchester based employees have been shafted.
The Manchester based employees have been shafted.
Is it over 50?
The Glazers are scum.
However, their latest enabler was fully aware of who he was getting in bed with. The books and the facilities were opened for him and he knew very well what was in store. To believe that he got a shock and had "no option but to do it after seeing things" is simply bullshit and an attempt to give him a pass. Jim is not a victim.
One thing: Wasn't his remit to take care of the football operations? When did it change to Manchester Elon Musk?
This. INEOS knew exactly what they were getting into
Ineos are just embarrassing at this stage. They're either clueless or are being intentionally cruel. Really interested to see how much of a dent these cuts will make over the next 1 to 5 years.
Even Woodward would have just resolved all this with a new tea cup sponsor or something.
Even Woodward would have just resolved all this with a new tea cup sponsor or something.
The City Football Group have 1,700 or so, which needs to be considered. I haven't seen a piece of journalism that analyses that workforce in depth, but The Athletic suggest a lot of work at the City Group benefits City.
Sky Sports headline made me laugh I admit.
"ManUtd: 200 more redundancies possible and free lunches to end."
Why chuck in the free lunches in.
Terrible news though! Things are pretty grim around the club.
"ManUtd: 200 more redundancies possible and free lunches to end."
Why chuck in the free lunches in.
Terrible news though! Things are pretty grim around the club.
He has publicly said twice what wonderful people they are
Liam Byrne left a note.
Yep, and don't forget the money that they then had to spend on sacking him
The wages of the likes of Case/Rash etc
Feels like Ineos are destroying us even further. Feel sorry for the employees, who are probably on very low wages, who are affected
Hope the players feel embarrassed they continue to stroll around collecting their big wages while the low paid employees are sent up the river by ineos
Yep that's the crux of it for me. It must be horrible for the background staff at the moment with this shite hanging over their head
Seems that way. Refusing Bruno to cover staff expenses shows its their message rather than the situation
This is a load of shite. Much better ways to save money.
It's honestly pretty disgusting and I've lost all faith with them at this point. You want to be able to admire and respect the club you love and they're doing practically everything in their power to tarnish that.
Could you imagine being an employee at Utd knowing they pissed 10+million up the wall on Ashworth & Hag.. then facing all these cuts, work life benefits, at fear of losing your job and knowing that all of these cuts combined probably doesn't even pay for that incompetence.
I get people are coping hard and want Ineos to be a success but crikey, wake up and smell the coffee.
Could you imagine being an employee at Utd knowing they pissed 10+million up the wall on Ashworth & Hag.. then facing all these cuts, work life benefits, at fear of losing your job and knowing that all of these cuts combined probably doesn't even pay for that incompetence.
I get people are coping hard and want Ineos to be a success but crikey, wake up and smell the coffee.
I will always point fingers at INEOS for offering a deal that kept these leeches in place
They are trying everything, the 1st team squad is getting culled of high earners
Yeah thanks to these greedy leeches our only alternative to Glineos minority ownership was a Sheikh who couldn't pass proof of funds test
I think they should cull it more and keep our staff on.
Can't smell the coffee. They cut that out as well.
Yeah you can see exactly why reliable journos are talking about a toxic work environment. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the place by the sounds of what's going on
No more serving custard either from what I've heard.
Why on earth are people getting free meals anyway? Bring your own dinner in like literally every other person in employment does.
Absolutely disgusted, treating loyal staff with utter contempt is completely out of order. We need someone mega wealthy to buy Glineos out before they leave us with nothing.
Its not hindsight. All these players had question marks
- De ligt didn't make the cut at Juventis or Bayern. He hadnt had a good season in years. So why did we buy him ? A lot of UTD fans had reservations about him
- Ugarte has been decent but there's a reason PSG sold him. He's limited in terms of distribution, driving the ball through midfield and controlling tempo. You can look at Neves who PSG bought to replace him, he's a more complete player. There's a reason Bruno is playing as a CM because none of our CMs are good at bringing the ball up the field. This is a position where you get a complete player.
- Zirkzee another young player with potential. He was never a proven goal scorer. Your backup to your unproven striker can't be another unproven striker. And you look at his game he's not a no 9, more of a 10. This is something good scouting should have picked up
- Yoro - we paid a huge fee for potnetial. I don't mind this one as much as the others. But he was more a long term fix rather than someone who would immediately transform the defence. This is one is defensible.
In terms of the footballing side, mistakes should be allowed to be made. No football club gets 100% of their decisions correct. This is why it is disingenuous to use these redundancies as a stick to beat the club with because we made a bad footballing decision (appointing Ashworth for example).
Basically feck all impact I would guess. They are taking the sort of measures a normal business might take to reduce costs but in a normal business these things might represent a much higher proportion of outgoings. In this case the debt and player wages make up the vast majority of outgoings so it all feels fairly futile
Clear the debts to stop the interest/coupon payments, put a moratorium on looting the club, stop wasting money on expensive duds, stop chasing, hiring and firing director of football's: that's the stuff the fans can get behind to streamline the operation and turn the business profitable. Cutting on scotch tapes and lunches is hardly going to change our fortunes.
Edit: In reality there are no "free" lunches. Those are part of the benefit package and the companies gives them as incentive to save time from people going out for lunch, which works out to the companies benefit eventually. So when a management stops a lunch program they are basically reducing the benefit for the common employee while they continue on their splurges.
Again you are talking about whether they were good signings or not which I think is debatable but from a financial point of view I didn't feel like we went crazy apart from for Yoro