City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024

crossy1686 said:
So what we thinking?

Point deduction?
Transfer ban?
Relegation!?
Huge fines?
Kicked out of Europe?
Removal of their titles?
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None of the above, they will fight it tooth and nail and it will go on for about 2/3 years longer, they can likely tie the premier league up in knots with proceedings.
Most likely outcome is they get fined like 20m which is nothing to them and they move on happy as larry and have this moral objection to being exposed by the premier league.

Honestly the integrity of the premier league is in the mud and the competition is a bit of a joke especially since Citys doping has come in, thus its become a case of if you cant beat them join them.
 
Pintu said:
They are worse cheats than Juventus, who just got 15 points deductions and are likely to see the 19/20 title being stripped and awarded to Inter... City should probably lose some of their titles as well (And we might get 2 of them, one for Mourinho 2018 and one for Olé 2021).
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You bet… none of the random measures administered by a private court like sporting justice would stand in an ordinary justice court without a fair trial… if anything, because causing hundred millions damage in the midst of a season would force any sane owner to go straight to the ordinary justice in order to defend their assets… and the Arabs are treating their sportwashing toys with the utmost care, contrary to Elkann’s bland approach.
 
If they actually get punished with points deductions and being stripped of titles, I don’t think the PL should award them to the teams that finished second in those seasons.
Those league seasons should just have no winner and be a lesson to the PL to make sure any new potential owners are working within the rules.
 
Devil_forever said:
It would be utter bullshit, so we lost out on leagues due to their alleged cheating and then fecking Arsenal benefit from it, feck that. Either title strip + point deduction or a huge fine which gets distributed to grass roots football.
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Well we would also be handed two league titles retrospectively so it's all fair I'd say. Also, long way to go this season for the Arse
 
crossy1686 said:
Come on, you've got Barcelona being fecked by La Liga, Juventus being fecked by Serie A, you think they won't have a lot to say to UEFA is the FA don't keep their end of the bargain?
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The Premier League has permitted wrong doing and will continue to do so as it has enabled it to become a billion pound industry.
 
Cheats. It’s so patently obvious that they’ve cheated, consistently cheated and continue to cheat. This time I’m hoping the PL have them nailed down and they can’t lawyer out of it.
 
This is why every trophy they’ve won means nothing. Regardless of the punishment, they’ve been guilty of cheating.
 
Is this about them sponsoring themselves to inflate their revenue? I don't quite understand what the charges against them are from reading the PL statement.
 
That time Man City announced greater commercial revenue than Real Madrid and Manchester United was probably a bit of a red flag in hindsight
 
MUFC OK said:
Pts deduction is out of the question. PL will not want the title race to be over with 18 games to go.
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How can anyone think with 18 games to go and Arsenal leading it’s over after they’ve just lost back to back games?
 
Judas said:
At most a transfer ban, people getting giddy hoping for points deduction, bless you, no chance.
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It just happened with Juventus for the exact same fraud. Why not City?

Transfer bans have been historically (mostly) applied for breaking transfer rules like signing underage players. Accounting fraud is almost always points deduction.
 
horsechoker said:
The Premier League has permitted wrong doing and will continue to do so as it has enabled it to become a billion pound industry.
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They just can't with the rest of the leagues throwing absolute shit fits every season because the PL is the only one flouting the rules. If UEFA and the FA want to maintain any level of authority within the game they have to enforce the rules.
 
They will grease the right palms and receive a slap on the wrist. Then continue doing the same thing.
 
A retroactive massive point deduction would be hilarious - imagine Mourinho and Ole being given PL titles.
 
crossy1686 said:
Come on, you've got Barcelona being fecked by La Liga, Juventus being fecked by Serie A, you think they won't have a lot to say to UEFA is the FA don't keep their end of the bargain?
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Barcelona are legally and financially dead in the water, yet they are now winning the league and Tebas is looking anywhere but his own house? As usual, these are political games. At the very end of the day, European football is dead because the big clubs have all outgrown their own local leagues, and the only way out to get competition with the Premier League is to create an European League.
 
If they have been cheating (which we know they have), then their titles should be stripped from them, they should have points deducted, transfer ban for 2+ years and blocked from European competition, possible relegation too. You shouldn't allow cheating at such a level to be ignored without any real punishment. The punishment must resemble the crime committed.

In reality, they'll throw together an army of lawyers at this, find a loophole somewhere and get away with it.
 
crossy1686 said:
Well we would also be handed two league titles retrospectively so it's all fair I'd say. Also, long way to go this season for the Arse
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Would it not be three?

We finished runners up to City in 11/12, 17/18 & 20/21.
 
It’s nice to have confirmation of what we’ve known all along though. Everyone knew they were crooked and it was all done in the most dodgy way possible.
 
This is not the first time that lot have been pulled up for breaching FFP. Doubt there will be anything that comes out of this unfortunately. Most likely a small fine which will be peanuts to them.
 
Yeah, I don't expect anything to happen.

And if that's the case, I better not hear nay crying if we get a new owner that spends money
 
And they had the balls to report the highest revenue in world football a few weeks ago.

surely this kills any future sponsors wanting to be associated with this?
 
Bepi said:
Barcelona are legally and financially dead in the water, yet they are now winning the league and Tebas is looking anywhere but his own house? As usual, these are political games. At the very end of the day, European football is dead because the big clubs have all outgrown their own local leagues, and the only way out to get competition with the Premier League is to create an European League.
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I agree, the teams have outgrown the leagues and those teams will not stick around if they're being punished "unfairly" while teams in other leagues aren't. That's why the FA have to bring charges to City otherwise what's the point in the PL as a league?
 
The PL and whoever else can’t keep dragging this shit up without hitting them with serious repercussions.
 
crossy1686 said:
So what we thinking?

Point deduction?
Transfer ban?
Relegation!?
Huge fines?
Kicked out of Europe?
Removal of their titles?
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I think nothing will come of it. They will just bribe the FA indirectly.
Don't know if anyone bothered to read the CAS report following the UEFA charges, but basically if you cheat, but are accused of doing so after the fact, you are let off the hook.
At most they will have to pay a 100k fine for the latest breach.
 
Maybe Ole will be able to get a new job now he’s a Premier League winning manager.
 
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