City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024

grahamo said:
I can't see How City would get a fine while Everton and Forest were deducted points for far less than City's blatant money laundering. Athough there does seem to be one rule for the bitters and another for everyone else. I just read that City were about to sign Christian McFarlane from NYCFC (A team owned by City) while United were refused permission to sign Jean Clair Todibo as SJR has a stake in Nice. One rule for bitters and another for everyone else. Money talks!
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Do NYCFC play in the Europa/Champions League also? Because that's why we weren't allowed to sign Todibo.
 
Dave Smith said:
Why do people keep saying The FA?

City aren't being tried by The FA. They're being tried by the PL whose rules are made up by the clubs who are the 20 shareholders of the PL. It is also the reason why City have ran scared of this one.

Firstly, City have done their best to limit the discussion of the case in the press - which is the real reason why it has not had as much coverage as people would expect - and they've got so desperate they've even asked for 'legal hearings with the PL'. Anyone remember this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...against-premier-league-over-sponsorship-rules

Well since that finished the PL has republished it's rules a few days ago with zero changes, so the liklihood is that City's legal argument did not win.

That argument was also never likely to win if people actually understood how the PL operates.

Unlike The FA - a non-for- profit organisation - the PL is a purely capitalist organisation that is run in a 'membership club format' (think golf club.) Unlike The FA, which has a very ingrained old boys club set up, with close ties to the Government/monarchy. The PL is purely about the self interest of the member clubs. So, unlike the FA who can be influenced/pressured politically the PL only really gets influenced by status and money. Or put another way, do you think the likes of the Glazers, Henry, PIF, Clearlake and Korenke are going to care more about foreign investment into the UK or increasing the value of their asset/status by having a more successful PL club (which will happen if they kill off City)? I know what I believe.

This is also before we even get to the fact the PL actually went ahead and charged City when they could've easily have brushed it under the carpet after the UEFA case imploded and how moronic they're going to look if City get off lightly.

For me, the only way City get out of a serious punishment is if they cam find a real and legitimate legal technicality that isn't some colloquial football one. Could that happen, for sure. However, it isn't going to be some timed barred sh*t this time.
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And that's why the lads that took over Newcastle sent to few texts to Boris, who got his mates on the case and suddenly all the concerns about Saudi Arabia owning a football team disappeared.
 
Sassy Colin said:
The whole Todibo thing could have been easily circumvented by UEFA forbidding him to play in the Europa League.

We would have still had him for English competitions, just not for Europe.

It's a load of bollocks.
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They’d argue you’re still weakening a rival club in the competition by taking one of their starting CB’s, even if he isn’t able to play.
 
Sassy Colin said:
But they are selling him to someone else anyway, so that's a non arguement too.
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The difference being the other clubs that may sign him aren’t owned by the same person and may not be in the same European competition. I agree the whole thing is bollocks but that’s UEFA’s fecked up rules for you.
 
If they are found guilty, will the others leagues feel pressured to investigate other CFG clubs? Any indication that they could have benefited?
 
Oranges038 said:
And that's why the lads that took over Newcastle sent to few texts to Boris, who got his mates on the case and suddenly all the concerns about Saudi Arabia owning a football team disappeared.
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Evidence?
 
I thought it was the referee’s job to stop and start the game. Does he have to wait until both teams have 11 players on the pitch before he does so?
 
that's pretty harsh in isolation

PL probably just had enough of city messing them about at this point
 
As crooked as they are, 70m doesn’t sound ridiculous for a player like Alvarez.

Annoyingly good signing.
 
Hoof the ball said:
We'd get 45m for him at best.
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Id want us to spend that on him at maximum too. Crazy figure for an ordinary looking player. Not terrible looking stats at a completely dominant and cheating city side, but his argentina record is more representative. Never once did I feel concerned about him against united, despite there being games where it looked like most of their team was a risk.
 
Sandikan said:
Doesn't it?
It sounds outrageously overblown
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Aged 24, scoring 11 and assisting 9 in 36 games, most of them coming on as a substitute.

I don’t think it does, no.

They won’t get it of course, but that’s another matter.
 
Rob said:
As crooked as they are, 70m doesn’t sound ridiculous for a player like Alvarez.

Annoyingly good signing.
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Yeah the fee is not the issue here. If he goes for £60m odd as Atleti have supposedly offered it’s pretty normal. If he goes for nearer the £90m City supposedly want all in, something’s up.
 
I wonder which cheap talent they will pick up from Girona…
 
Rob said:
Aged 24, scoring 11 and assisting 9 in 36 games, most of them coming on as a substitute.

I don’t think it does, no.

They won’t get it of course, but that’s another matter.
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How many of those games scoring and assisting from the bench would have likely made his entrance to a game that is effectively already over? Bench minutes at a club with games close is unlikely to be the same as bench minutes at a club where you're already two or three goals up. Makes a big difference in your stat line, especially if the opposition is demoralised and tired.
 
SER19 said:
Id want us to spend that on him at maximum too. Crazy figure for an ordinary looking player. Not terrible looking stats at a completely dominant and cheating city side, but his argentina record is more representative. Never once did I feel concerned about him against united, despite there being games where it looked like most of their team was a risk.
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Likewise. He has a purple patch where it looked like he was putting it together, but, that's essentially what it was. A good run during a period in which City were cumulatively scoring a lot of goals.
 
Hoof the ball said:
Likewise. He has a purple patch where it looked like he was putting it together, but, that's essentially what it was. A good run during a period in which City were cumulatively scoring a lot of goals.
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weve seen these players before in guardiolas effective, yet robotic sides. If we signed him, Id be underwhelmed.
 
SER19 said:
weve seen these players before in guardiolas effective, yet robotic sides. If we signed him, Id be underwhelmed.
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Agreed. I was swayed by his Youtube highlights at River Plate and thought City were getting someone who'd seriously challenge Haaland down the line. My mistake was not waiting for LuckyScout's scout report first.
 
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