I'm not to sure if Qatar buy us? Surely we can be better again. We have a better fan base and known across the world. City is a flash in the pan
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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I'm not to sure if Qatar buy us? Surely we can be better again. We have a better fan base and known across the world. City is a flash in the pan
Man, seriously, catch yourself on. A flash in the pan is not 3 -4 seasons of success.
This is the new normal. I get the frustration but complaining won't get us anywhere. Football is currently a free for all and interests are clashing, on one hand, we have the institutions that welcome the injection of money and the growth that comes with it, and on the other, we have the fans of the game that know that this is bullshit.
If we still care about football we should shut the feck up and stop crying and find a way to compete with these new giants, it's not like we are fecking Portsmouth, we have the money and the resources to compete with them.
If we still care about football we should shut the feck up and stop crying and find a way to compete with these new giants, it's not like we are fecking Portsmouth, we have the money and the resources to compete with them.
Everyone needs to remember they have already been found guilty. They were saved by CAS who are not a factor this time so it stands to reason that they will be found guilty again.
The charges may not be exactly the same, though I honestly haven't read all the details of UEFA and the PL case, but they will be of a similar nature. They may even overlap. Without CAS City would currently not be treble winners. They wouldn't even be in Europe. They are treble winners on a technicality. We should refer to them as OJ City going forward to reflect the absurdity of it all.
I've said multiple times and I maintain the fact that the PL advantage is that it is the clubs who are ultimately the key. The PL cannot find them innocent of all 115 changes without upsetting a majority of the other 19 clubs and doing so could have significant repercussions for the game in this country and beyond.
A quick note, I wasn't able to post this due to abbreviating Premier League's to PL(s) without brackets, which seems weird. Guessing it's to stop text speak as it can also be used at short hand for please.
The charges may not be exactly the same, though I honestly haven't read all the details of UEFA and the PL case, but they will be of a similar nature. They may even overlap. Without CAS City would currently not be treble winners. They wouldn't even be in Europe. They are treble winners on a technicality. We should refer to them as OJ City going forward to reflect the absurdity of it all.
I've said multiple times and I maintain the fact that the PL advantage is that it is the clubs who are ultimately the key. The PL cannot find them innocent of all 115 changes without upsetting a majority of the other 19 clubs and doing so could have significant repercussions for the game in this country and beyond.
A quick note, I wasn't able to post this due to abbreviating Premier League's to PL(s) without brackets, which seems weird. Guessing it's to stop text speak as it can also be used at short hand for please.
Not sure why but my mind read this in Scott Steiner's voice.
No I support man utd but I can give praise when needed. I was hoping the didn't win it, inter played better I felt. However they have done it and we have a higher net spend in the last 6 years, so this cheat narrative doesn't feel quite so right. He is the goat, he changed football completely, I'm not referencing city, I'm referencing Guardiola, he has done incredible things with this side regardless of money.
Hopefully we catch them and U cant wait for next season but in the meantime let's congratulate Guardiola, just as Sir Alex has before the game, could have been a mind game, who knows!
Keep sucking the teat Mr Man, keeps you on side. The simple fack is money wins titles, you can like it or lump it, it’s the way it is. Where the money comes from is a total distraction, Saudi money, American money, UK money, Russian money, if you really honestly can convince there is any difference your simply not very intelligent.
You mean the 115 ways they are accused of cheating the system?
Or the times they broke the doping rules 3 times in 5 months?
Or the shell company Fordham Sports they created to disguise the payments they made to players for their image rights? (LMAO actually still obtainable here ON THE UK GOVERNMENT WEBSITE https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08080042), curiously now liquidated - publicly obtainable documents are actually availabe on a pdf here!)
Or the e-mail from their CEO Ferrian Sorriano which they never actually disputed, only disputed the way it was 'obtained' (i.e. by hacking, and the quote is attributable to him) saying " “We will need to fight this,” “and do it in a way that is not visible, or we will be pointed out as the global enemies of football.” ?
Yes nothing to see here. Lets move on.
Mhmmmmmm United won a lot before FFP, but I guess we let that go? Yes? Or we don’t talk about Fergie’ agent son? Udt always done things the right way
.the hyporacy is literally mind blowing.
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Ever heard of any rules which apply to everyone?United at some point also won the league with 42 games. So unfair, nowadays teams only have 38 games to gather points.
Sir Alex Ferguson was guilty of nepotism. So fecking what, Spursboy? You know City's success is detrimental to Spurs as well, right? Or you just another ABU iconoclast that's been painted blue?
Just appreciate what they did. Money is apart of the game, they spent it well and we didn't. History will only remember the treble. Real Madrid won 5 champions league largely funded by a dictator in Franco but it seems forgotten.
I've said before I have no problem with Oil money being injected into the beautiful game. Lets get back at them next year, this is Guardiola's year.
United at some point also won the league with 42 games. So unfair, nowadays teams only have 38 games to gather points.
You are the richest club in the league???? Compete and stop bitching about it. Every ticket u buy, or shirt is it on yourselves? City are the better run club, simple.
This has to be a wind up. I want their ground steamrollered into ash, the pitch turned to mulch and salted so nothing of value ever grows there again. I want everyone associated with their club LIQUIDATED in a giant dystopian steampunk blender. I would rather run into a wall in an attempt to eat my own face than 'appreciate' what they did.
I see, still bitter about „Lads, it’s Spurs“
Where do you think your owners invest their money?
Oh just feck off to thefightingcock, god the one good thing about the ridiculous rulebreaking is that Spurs fans have gotten even less joy out of their miserable lives. What do you think the various managers of Manchester United have TRIED to do, it's difficult when your owners will only fund a Burnley striker on loan and you know, can't create shell companies out of thin air to direct 100m each on 3 new full backs or some shit.
Yeah, we should appreciate the cheating
Not gonna lie, but your all turning cause your rivals did the treble? That’s the point.
Rattled?
I'd be behind 100-200m being invested in a steampunk dystopian machine to turn some things into mulch here, it might mean they'd be forced to really start thinking about improving the South Stand FINALLY in 2023
I’d say 70% of all money is invested in the Middle East, that’s my point. Arguing over the *right way* to do things left a long time ago.
It's official, the Caf is in meltdown mode. Logging out for a bit and coming back when things settle down and we have some nice transfer muppetry to engage in.
Is there a table of expenditure over the last 6 years where City have dominated titles?
It would be interesting to see what each club has spent but also depressing to see ours.
It would be interesting to see what each club has spent but also depressing to see ours.
Turning? Where, what? Don’t even know what you mean.
Yeah big deal our rivals did what we did 24 years ago without cheating or oil money or 115 charges.
intreating to see if it was only accompanied By United’s spending during the flirty days.
Depends how you define cheating? When the PL start s you had very, very good owners. Who did spend when it was right. Because you are possibly the biggest club in the world, why is it fair u get to spend more than anyone else?
it's what they call it when you break the rules
You can get the figure from Transfermarkt. You'll be surprised as the last 6 years United have outspent City (gross).
UEFA and PL cases/charges. City’s delay tactics instead of trying to provide evidence and clear their name asap. But based on your posts on these I don’t expect you to have any issues with it.
they still won, just cause your income is probably to0 3 in the world, if you won does it make it right?
Ok, so cause u earn more than anyone in the PL, you should be allowed to win more? Due to spending more? And that’s ok? That’s a fair sport in your eyes?
According to transfermarket based on expenditure v income
2017 to 2023
Chelsea: -781m
Man Utd: -765m
Arsenal: -535m
Man City: -485m
Spurs: -440m
Liverpool: -315m
Expenditure
Chelsea: 1.49b
Man City: 1.03b
Man Utd: 986m
Arsenal: 839m
Liverpool 716m
Spurs 700m
Newcastle will be amongst these soon enough I’d imagine.
2017 to 2023
Chelsea: -781m
Man Utd: -765m
Arsenal: -535m
Man City: -485m
Spurs: -440m
Liverpool: -315m
Expenditure
Chelsea: 1.49b
Man City: 1.03b
Man Utd: 986m
Arsenal: 839m
Liverpool 716m
Spurs 700m
Newcastle will be amongst these soon enough I’d imagine.
Thats the way football is now. Probably has been for the last 2 decades, pay to win.
It was much the same in Trinidad. A couple guys that I worked with were just outright city fans. The Barcelona fans like them because of Pep. Everyone else that were fans of other clubs just admired the football they play without really talking about the origin of their finances or whatever. No one seems to really care.
cheating is okay if you win sure
look I know you're just wumming but surely you can come up with something better than this?
I’m not wummming, the richest teams win, it’s how it’s always been.
I don't believe you