If they swap Garnacho for Nkunku I'm done prematurely. I'm done in the summer when City get off anyway but this is just a fecking joke. Y'all can keep watching this shit show
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Someone better at accountancy explain to me how swapping Nkunku for Garnacho helps with our PSR situation..? I am not seeing it.
If we’re so desperate to exchange, better get that hotel instead of Nkunku
I would keep Garna and try a loan for Nkunku to bolster the attack, why not.
Imagine selling Garnacho and buying Nkunku
Accidental slip.
Chelsea will eventually sell Nkunu for 20 million to a PL team yet they are asking us 70 mil.
It’s easy if you try.
Imagine selling Nkunku and buying Garnacho.
Can we not sign another injury prone Chelsea player?
Of all the things that are not true, this is not true the most.
Assuming we sell Garna for 60m and buy Nkunku for 60m
The sale of Garna creates a 60m PSR profit.
The acquisition of Nkunku creates an amortized cost for us. So every year, for 5 years, we have an expense on our P&L which is equal to 60/5 = 12m. There is also an impact from wages which we can leave from this discussiuon. Gain is booked at once where acquisition cost is amortized. The 60 - 12 = 48m can then be used for other deals. The 12m will then eat away into our PSR capacity for the following 4 windows but the idea is that you can do other things in the future to mitigate the impact of that (like sell more players or get wages off etc).
Not saying I support the above as I think Nkunko will be a horrible signing.
Gernacho goes to Chelsea for 60 to 70million.
That’s homegrown pure profit.
We buy him for 60m over 5 years.
12m a season. 48m left as profit on the balance sheet. That 48 can buy 4 more 60m players. As you are spending 12 x 4 this year.
This of course doesn’t take into accounts contracts but with Gernacho, Rashford and Anthony off the books or on reduced wages it would.
Always struck me as a bit overweight, like Anderson, Casemiro and Shaw.
Selling Garnacho for £50m allows us to spend £900m or something.
Will we try and wangle selling Garnacho for even more if we offer to buy Nkunku for even more?
Garnacho counts as the full value on PSR straight away (because he's homegrown) and Nkunku can be spread over a few years - is that right?
Garnacho counts as the full value on PSR straight away (because he's homegrown) and Nkunku can be spread over a few years - is that right?
Yep, a few teams already did this in the summer (including Chelsea) to help their PSR positions
Aston Villa sign Maatsen for £37m from Chelsea, Omari Kellyman goes the other way for £19m
Nottm Forest sign Elliot Anderson for £35m from Newcastle, Odysseas Vlachodimos goes the other way for £20m
Nothing to see here lads.
Could be Vivell is pushing this with the Red Bull connection to Nkunku.
Didn't Vivell get sacked by Chelsea for something dodgy?
Don’t want Nkunku at all. Couple of decent seasons in Germany and some not so good.
Plagued by injury and not done anything in the prem so still unproven.
He will be on a pretty decent wage too.
We need to be smarter than this but it has all the hallmarks of us repeating past bad business. Add in if we let them have Garnacho this deal will stink for years to come.
Plagued by injury and not done anything in the prem so still unproven.
He will be on a pretty decent wage too.
We need to be smarter than this but it has all the hallmarks of us repeating past bad business. Add in if we let them have Garnacho this deal will stink for years to come.
Would be nice to know a bit more about how he has done as a player, whole thread is about PSR it seems
Not that I’m aware. I think they just hired someone else basically doing the same job and there wasn’t room for both.
I was genuinely gutted when he went to Chelsea. Hard to know if he’s still the same player though given the injuries - or if he just doesn’t fit the system. It’d be a huge risk - but it would be high reward if it came off given his potential. 70m is absurd money though.
There's no additional PSR benefit from a swap. The pure profit is driven by Garnacho's sale, regardless of whether its a swap or regular transfer. Any player transfer fee is amortized over the duration of the contract, so £50m for Cunha will be treated the same as £50m for Nkunku i.e booked at £10m per year for 5 years (assuming a 5 year contract). The only reason this could happen is if taking Nkunku is the only way that Chelsea will agree to this in the first place, which means that there will still be some sort of breathing room with the remaining profit. But overall this isn't something that we should be doing considering his injury history and potential wages.
If this is true, then INEOS are even bigger cretins than I thought.
Garnacho for Nkunku.
A level of incompetence that even the Glazers haven't reached.
Garnacho for Nkunku.
A level of incompetence that even the Glazers haven't reached.Reading through about 1/3 of this thread, and have seen less than 5 posts positive of this idea. (Not counting Chelsea posters ofcourse)
If practically all of us fans can see that this is a shit idea on face value, but management doesn’t, it sure paints a grim picture of the future.
If practically all of us fans can see that this is a shit idea on face value, but management doesn’t, it sure paints a grim picture of the future.
It's a repeat of the Mount thread like for like, which is exactly how this transfer would go down as well. The most obvious trainwreck you can see from miles away.
There is no sense in this deal at all. SHove your PSR rubbish.
Its swapping a lad with potential, who is always available, for a lad who could get crocked crossing the street. If you want someone to keep mount company in rehab training, cheer it on. If you want the team to actually improve, then this is not going to help.
Its swapping a lad with potential, who is always available, for a lad who could get crocked crossing the street. If you want someone to keep mount company in rehab training, cheer it on. If you want the team to actually improve, then this is not going to help.
Getting him in loan with an option to buy would be a very good deal in my view.
As a Notts County supporter?
Largely because he's done so little for Chelsea
Seems clear Garnacho is going but it would be madness to sell and not bring a forward in. Shouldn't be going near this one at the prices quoted though.
get with the times. we’re only here for psr.
If they want Garnacho then we should ask for palmer. There trying to give us the worse end of the deal so let’s switched it.
If he goes it has to be to Napoli. Can not sell to a rival in the same league. I’d personally keep Garnacho, still very young but unfortunately we’ll close to breaching PSR
Thanks lads. So rather than a swap its a deal where we buy A for B and they buy C for D and the numbers work out. Gotcha.
If there was a way to know he could stay fit, I wouldn't be as averse to this. Garnacho wolf probably do well at Chelsea with less pressure and better players, but Nkunku (technically) is a far better player.
I remember him at Leipzig and he was absolutely insane at times, showing really high skill levels in front of goal. At that point I thought he would be one of the best in the world by now.
I remember him at Leipzig and he was absolutely insane at times, showing really high skill levels in front of goal. At that point I thought he would be one of the best in the world by now.
No one knew Mount would be constantly injured
Mount’s injuries started piling up from January 2023 — he played 1 of Chelsea’s final 13 PL matches. Injured for 10, played one, unused bench for 2. We signed him that same summer.
60m + Nkuku + Felix and Gara is yours.