Christian Eriksen

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Losing Bale would hurt any team, but the response from Spurs has been stunning. Considering they don't currently have the the Champions League bargaining chip. They're giving themselves every chance this year. I have to admire the way they've gone about their business. These are good players and Levy is showing ruthless efficiency.
 
redmeister said:
Carroll is only 3 months younger than Eriksen. Yet Eriksen has played 37 times for his country including playing in a WC and Euro Championship. He's also played 30 times in the CL, won 3 Eredivse titles and a YPOTY award. Tom Carroll hasn't even won Tottenhams YPOTY. He struggled on loan at Derby. He played very well last night, but was outshone by Holtby. Holtby is only a year older and was capped by Germany at 19.

It's true our players need to get more opportunities, but don't you think you are getting a little carried away. Carroll is probably seen as about the 5th best English CM of players of a similar age to him. And England are a shit football nation. It seems unlikely that a guy who has only managed 2 U21 caps and never started a Prem game is a better prospect than one of the best young players in the whole continent.
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He's only played 16 times in the CL though. But add to that four games in the CL qualifiers and 10 in the Europa League and we reach the 30. He's also won the Dutch cup. But 113 appearances in the Eredivisie with 25 goals and 51 assists is clearly not on Tom Carroll's level.
 
How are they going to line up or what is going to be their starting line up?

..................................Lloris/Friedel...................................

Walker/Naughton....Dawson/ Kaboull..... Chiricheș/Vertonghen....Benoît Assou-Ekotto/Rose


..........................Sandro/Capoue................................

.........Paulihno/Holtby............. Eriksen/Dembele/Carroll


Lennon/Lamela.............................Chadli/Sigurðsson/Townsend

.................Soldado/Defoe/Adebayor.........................

By the looks of it they properly are going to need to send out Carrol and Townsend on loan
 
starman said:
How are they going to line up or what is going to be their starting line up?
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Probably something like:​
Lloris​
Walker Dawson Vertonghen Coentrao​
Paulinho Capoue​
Lamela Eriksen Chadli​
Soldado​
That is of course if they end up signing Coentrao after Bale leaves, which I think they will. If not him then Rose at left back.​
 
redmeister said:
Carroll is only 3 months younger than Eriksen. Yet Eriksen has played 37 times for his country including playing in a WC and Euro Championship. He's also played 30 times in the CL, won 3 Eredivse titles and a YPOTY award. Tom Carroll hasn't even won Tottenhams YPOTY. He struggled on loan at Derby. He played very well last night, but was outshone by Holtby. Holtby is only a year older and was capped by Germany at 19.

It's true our players need to get more opportunities, but don't you think you are getting a little carried away. Carroll is probably seen as about the 5th best English CM of players of a similar age to him. And England are a shit football nation. It seems unlikely that a guy who has only managed 2 U21 caps and never started a Prem game is a better prospect than one of the best young players in the whole continent.
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I'm not saying he is one of the best in the continent at all. I am bemoaning the lack of opportunites given to class English players. Nathaniel Chalobah signed a 5 year contract today. Yeah, good luck with that at Chelsea. Youth Cup winners (shouldn't say too much as none of ours have had a chance at it either) twice in recent years and not a single one has had a sniff. Saw the, slightly reactionary, Jeff Stelling piece, earlier and it was telling that no top 7 team had bought an English player this year. Worry you?
 
backofthenet said:
I'm not saying he is one of the best in the continent at all. I am bemoaning the lack of opportunites given to class English players. Nathaniel Chalobah signed a 5 year contract today. Yeah, good luck with that at Chelsea. Youth Cup winners (shouldn't say too much as none of ours have had a chance at it either) twice in recent years and not a single one has had a sniff. Saw the, slightly reactionary, Jeff Stelling piece, earlier and it was telling that no top 7 team had bought an English player this year. Worry you?
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You don't put all you're faith in a youngster who's shown nothing so far though? Sure he's a promising player but it's not to the extent of Eriksen and he might never make it at a club that is at Spurs' level.
 
backofthenet said:
I'm not saying he is one of the best in the continent at all. I am bemoaning the lack of opportunites given to class English players. Nathaniel Chalobah signed a 5 year contract today. Yeah, good luck with that at Chelsea. Youth Cup winners (shouldn't say too much as none of ours have had a chance at it either) twice in recent years and not a single one has had a sniff. Saw the, slightly reactionary, Jeff Stelling piece, earlier and it was telling that no top 7 team had bought an English player this year. Worry you?
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No one would disagree with the lack of opportunities for young English players. It's just you said he was a "better prospect," which seemed odd.

Ironically this might well turn out to be the wrong deal to rant about this over though, as apparently Carroll could now be going to Ajax for a season on loan, which would be brilliant for his development.
 
bosnian_red said:
You don't put all you're faith in a youngster who's shown nothing so far though? Sure he's a promising player but it's not to the extent of Eriksen and he might never make it at a club that is at Spurs' level.
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To be honest, this attitude is one of the main reasons, why English youth talent is so far behind the ones of Spain and Germany.

The clubs simply don´t put enough faith into their youngsters. Yes, it carries risks with it (just like any other transfers). The youngsters are unproven and without experience. Well, then give them the chance to prove themselves and gather experience.

If it does not work out, then you either loan them away or sell them, but if it works, you will have a home grown player at an extreme efficient cost.
 
Andrew~ said:
I know what you mean, but there are precedents for similar players going much cheaper than they should: Ozil, Kagawa, Sahin and even Coutinho. Player prices are relative and it all depends on the circumstances of the market at the time. He's only got one year left on his contract and most top teams are well stocked in his position or they use a system where they don't need a player like him.
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All those situations are all contracted related bar Coutinho who Inter didn't want. For a young player as well known as hyped as he has been Tottenham have gotten a great deal, can't wait to see what he is made of.
 
bosnian_red said:
You don't put all you're faith in a youngster who's shown nothing so far though? Sure he's a promising player but it's not to the extent of Eriksen and he might never make it at a club that is at Spurs' level.
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I'm not putting all my faith in him. I would rather see him played than another squad filler, cos that'll be Eriksens job to be honest.

Spurs already had a good squad. They've now got a better squad. I reckon they might player Lamela at 10 leaving Eriksen on the bench. I'd rather have an English lad on the bench at least. I don't particularly like Spurs or Chelsea, for Chalobah, but I would rather they invested in the youth if they look like they could be very good indeed. Get in the first team.
 
redmeister said:
No one would disagree with the lack of opportunities for young English players. It's just you said he was a "better prospect," which seemed odd.

Ironically this might well turn out to be the wrong deal to rant about this over though, as apparently Carroll could now be going to Ajax for a season on loan, which would be brilliant for his development.
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:lol:
I'll shut up
 
Sphaero said:
To be honest, this attitude is one of the main reasons, why English youth talent is so far behind the ones of Spain and Germany.

The clubs simply don´t put enough faith into their youngsters. Yes, it carries risks with it (just like any other transfers). The youngsters are unproven and without experience. Well, then give them the chance to prove themselves and gather experience.

If it does not work out, then you either loan them away or sell them, but if it works, you will have a home grown player at an extreme efficient cost.
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Interesting discussion, maybe not for this thread but I will say I feel the young players here are mainly not good enough that is why they don't play. Clubs should do a better job also, instead of buying average foreigners English clubs should buy only the very best ones and let decent English kids develop. In terms of top quality youth I don't think this country is producing as much as the major powers in the game.
 
backofthenet said:
I'm not putting all my faith in him. I would rather see him played than another squad filler, cos that'll be Eriksens job to be honest.

Spurs already had a good squad. They've now got a better squad. I reckon they might player Lamela at 10 leaving Eriksen on the bench. I'd rather have an English lad on the bench at least. I don't particularly like Spurs or Chelsea, for Chalobah, but I would rather they invested in the youth if they look like they could be very good indeed. Get in the first team.
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I think Eriksen will be an automatic first team player actually. Lamela is much better on the right than anywhere else, and this Spurs team right now was really missing a creative attacking midfielder. In Eriksen, they now have one, so I can't see him being simply a squad player. He's also got loads of potential, but we'll see how it pans out.
I agree Carroll should get chances on the bench, but I thought you meant as a starter ahead of Eriksen.
 
I think Lamela is the Bale replacement. Good player by all accounts so we'll see. I think Holtby is definitely in the mix, as are Lennon and Townsend, and Eriksen will be there abouts as will Sigurdsson. Levy may just go full muppet and buy another attacking midfielder yet. They've got a good midfield... we'll see how they get on defensively.
 
JaffyJoe said:
Interesting discussion, maybe not for this thread but I will say I feel the young players here are mainly not good enough that is why they don't play. Clubs should do a better job also, instead of buying average foreigners English clubs should buy only the very best ones and let decent English kids develop. In terms of top quality youth I don't think this country is producing as much as the major powers in the game.
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The academies in Germany and Spain are for the most part superior and thus producing a higher number of talents, but I feel that in not trusting their youngsters English clubs are missing out on some really good players, because they don´t get a stage to prove themselves.

Not every youth player shows his true strengths right away and can really sursprise when giving actual play time.

A German example for that is Jonas Hofmann. In his youth career he hardly sticked out, only making a couple of games for the German U18. He was scouted at Hoffenheim in 2011 and brought into the reserves of Dortmund, where he played the last two years. Klopp gave him a couple of minutes in the first team last season and saw potential in him. As result he pulled him up into the first team and actually commited to him. A lot of people expected Dortmund to sign an additional player for the offensive midfield (4th or 5th option) and the heaviest linked player was actually Eriksen. It became clear sooner or later, that they did not plan to do so, because Klopp had no intention to take away Hofmann´s squad place.

And from the look of the season so far, Hofmann is on his way to repay every bit of the trust he was given. He already was vital in one league win and gives his all in every minute he gets. This is something that I see a lot in young prospects. They truly work their asses off on the pitch, because they know that they need to prove their worth and don´t take their chances for granted.



Coming back to Eriksen, I really think that he is overhyped in general and on here aswell. I have seen a lot of him in the last season, because of the supposed interest of Dortmund. He has games, where he looks like a world beater but at the same time, he often dissapears in games, especially when he gets little space. He really lacks consistency so far. Right now, I certainly don´t see him walking right into Tottenham´s starting XI. He will have to really earn his place there.
 
What a spree from Spurs, though. If they get their team combination and balance right, they're going to be right up fighting within the top four.
 
---------------Lloris-------------
Walker-Vertongen- Dawson - New LB
--------Paulinho--Dembele---------
Lamela-------Eriksen------Chadli---
-------------Soldado------------

It's a great starting 11 and the depth of squad they now have is also quite scary with Chirichis , Sandro, Capoue, Holtby, Sigurdsson, Lennon and Defoe ready to step in. Compared to last season I reckon their squad is twice as good, I said it earlier but losing Bale could well be the best thing to happen to Spurs.
 
They look to have a potentially fantastic team
It is a gamble though because even though the bale sale will cover most of the transfer fees their wage bill must have gone up?
And with only a capacity of around 36000 they will need to qualify for the cl simply for the £
 
sun_tzu said:
They look to have a potentially fantastic team
It is a gamble though because even though the bale sale will cover most of the transfer fees their wage bill must have gone up?
And with only a capacity of around 36000 they will need to qualify for the cl simply for the £
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I'm not sure, they offloaded a lot of other players. Dempsey, Caulker, Parker and Huddlestone weren't on very high wages but then again I doubt the likes of Chadli, Chiriches, Paulinho, Capoue and Eriksen are earning much more. Soldado and Lamela will probably be on relatively high wages but that's about it. Their net spend so far is £95m so they really need to sale Bale though.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Sorry if this has been discussed but how come he was so cheap? 21 years old... Was he down to the last year of his contact?
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because we didn't bid for him. If it had been us guranteed it would have been rejected and everyone would be calling Woodward embarrassing again.
 
I must say that Eriksen is being overrated on here, IMO. Solid player, whose moments of brilliance are very rare. Would actually quite surprise me if he was to succeed at Spurs.
 
Jaap said:
I must say that Eriksen is being overrated on here, IMO. Solid player, whose moments of brilliance are very rare. Would actually quite surprise me if he was to succeed at Spurs.
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See, I don't get this view on a 21 year-old who has been like PotY in Holland etc. He may not be the very best, but from what I've seen I think he's likely to go on to be top class.

Even if he's, say, Cleverley's level, that's plenty good enough to succeed at Spurs.
 


Picked sitting on the bench at Spurs over a guaranteed starting spot at United, because of Moyes no doubt.

I believe everything I wrote!
 
Sphaero said:
The academies in Germany and Spain are for the most part superior and thus producing a higher number of talents, but I feel that in not trusting their youngsters English clubs are missing out on some really good players, because they don´t get a stage to prove themselves.

Not every youth player shows his true strengths right away and can really sursprise when giving actual play time.

A German example for that is Jonas Hofmann. In his youth career he hardly sticked out, only making a couple of games for the German U18. He was scouted at Hoffenheim in 2011 and brought into the reserves of Dortmund, where he played the last two years. Klopp gave him a couple of minutes in the first team last season and saw potential in him. As result he pulled him up into the first team and actually commited to him. A lot of people expected Dortmund to sign an additional player for the offensive midfield (4th or 5th option) and the heaviest linked player was actually Eriksen. It became clear sooner or later, that they did not plan to do so, because Klopp had no intention to take away Hofmann´s squad place.

And from the look of the season so far, Hofmann is on his way to repay every bit of the trust he was given. He already was vital in one league win and gives his all in every minute he gets. This is something that I see a lot in young prospects. They truly work their asses off on the pitch, because they know that they need to prove their worth and don´t take their chances for granted.



Coming back to Eriksen, I really think that he is overhyped in general and on here aswell. I have seen a lot of him in the last season, because of the supposed interest of Dortmund. He has games, where he looks like a world beater but at the same time, he often dissapears in games, especially when he gets little space. He really lacks consistency so far. Right now, I certainly don´t see him walking right into Tottenham´s starting XI. He will have to really earn his place there.
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Good post can't say I disagree. The clubs here do not help the situation, in Germany there is more commitment to the national team doing well which means all the best youth players get together. Here few of the best clubs get along, which means little chance of the national team or the cultivation of youth being a priority.

I haven't watched much of Eriksen, so I really want to see what he is made of.
 
Jaap said:
I must say that Eriksen is being overrated on here, IMO. Solid player, whose moments of brilliance are very rare. Would actually quite surprise me if he was to succeed at Spurs.
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I disagree. He's looked very good when I've seen him. I was at the Ajax - Dortmund game and he was the only Ajax player that didn't look like a deer in headlights. He's got some real quality - very good buy for Spurs.
 
Problem with this buy is that Spurs has a lot of players competing for the same role and a lot of them are new to both the team and the league. Some of them are destined to fail. 12 players competing for 5 roles and at least 10 of them would want to play regularly.

At least they can use Eriksen as an MC but you've already got Dembele, Sandro and new boys Capoue and Paulinho. A lot of money spent on wages and transfer, much of which could be recuperated with the sale of Bale but I don't see why this couldn't all be to make him stay and thus trying to take the club a serious step forward. I'm sure they can afford it so why not.
 
Soldado

Lamela----Eriksen-----Lennon

Dembele-----Paulinho

Ekoto-----Dawson-----Vertonghen-----Walker

Lloris


Defoe

Chadli-----Holtby-----Sigurssdon

Capoue-----Sandro

Rose-----Kaboul-----Chiriches-----Naughton

Fridel​
 
Snow said:
Problem with this buy is that Spurs has a lot of players competing for the same role and a lot of them are new to both the team and the league. Some of them are destined to fail. 12 players competing for 5 roles and at least 10 of them would want to play regularly.

At least they can use Eriksen as an MC but you've already got Dembele, Sandro and new boys Capoue and Paulinho. A lot of money spent on wages and transfer, much of which could be recuperated with the sale of Bale but I don't see why this couldn't all be to make him stay and thus trying to take the club a serious step forward. I'm sure they can afford it so why not.
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Who would be the DJ ?
 
What a great signing for them and for a relatively low cost.

With the squad they have, they really should be challenging for the title.
 
You could at least learn to spell his name.
 
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