I'd be excited if we were to buy him but he's definitely not the type of midfielder we should be looking for.
Christian Eriksen
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I agree with this. Isn't he an AM? What's the point when we have Rooney and Kagawa, who are both much, much better?
Great to see that you have added Germany to list. Thanks.
Who are you talking about? Xavi is 33 &Alonso is 31, who are the great midfielders coming up through Spanish ranks? Besides Cesc and Busquets, who all are there? Which is this great future Spanish generation you are boasting about?
Italy has Verrati, who is highly talked about. In Italian football, Hernanes is having a great season. France has Étienne Capoue. I am sure there are plenty of others. These are some I can remember on the top of my head and know from the limited football I watch outside of the premier league.
Capoué is more a defender than a midfielder, Verrati is terrific but is not a playmaker and Hernanes doesn't even start for Brasil
Xavi, Iniesta, Mata, Silva, Cesc, Busquets, Alonso, Javi Martinez, Cazorla, Muniain, Isco, Romeu, Herrera, Susaeta, Beñat, Thiago, Sergio Roberto, Suso and Samper. I mentioned Germany because they have a handful of excellent midfielders at present and are the only ones in Europe that come close to Spain's talent pool yet there remains a clear gap between the two countries.
Xavi, Iniesta, Mata, Silva, Cesc, Busquets, Alonso, Javi Martinez, Cazorla, Muniain, Isco, Romeu, Herrera, Susaeta, Beñat, Thiago, Sergio Roberto, Suso and Samper. I mentioned Germany because they have a handful of excellent midfielders at present and are the only ones in Europe that come close to Spain's talent pool yet there remains a clear gap between the two countries.
If Nani leaves then Eriksen is just the type of creative talent we should bring in as his replacement
Eriksen is nowhere near the same type of player as Nani. I'm interested in hearing why you think he would be a good replacement.
Étienne Capoue is a defensive midfielder.
Lamela, Pastore, Gotze, Ruez, Hamsik, Eriksen, Fisher, Nani, Bale, Muller, Kroos, Ribery, Oscar, Shaqiri, Belhanda, Cabella, Ben Arfa, Hazard, Moura etc. etc.
We can play this game all day. There are good players all around the world. There isn't any "real need for quality midfielders in the game who aren't Spanish". Plenty are already present.
Know the game you speak of before assuming you can play
Capoué is a DM but is more a defender than a midfielder. Lamela & Pastore used to play in the midfield but now operate as wingers/forwards and I didn't realize they were from Europe. Same applies to Oscar and Moura. Götze is fantastic as is Kroos & Müller but they are Germans aren't they - Plus Thomas plays as a forward or as a winger for the NT.
Is there some generation of Slovak midfielders apart from Hamsik that is prevalent in Europe? Nani, winger. Shaqiri, winger. Ribery, winger. The French contingent have yet to demonstrate they are anything of note. Bale is now a midfielder too?
You've constructed a very poor argument here. There's only one country in Europe that is consistently producing a conveyor belt of midfielders of the quality of Eriksen with Germany a distant 2nd, IMHO.
Capoué is a DM but is more a defender than a midfielder. Lamela & Pastore used to play in the midfield but now operate as wingers/forwards and I didn't realize they were from Europe. Same applies to Oscar and Moura. Götze is fantastic as is Kroos & Müller but they are Germans aren't they - Plus Thomas plays as a forward or as a winger for the NT.
Is there some generation of Slovak midfielders apart from Hamsik that is prevalent in Europe? Nani, winger. Shaqiri, winger. Ribery, winger. The French contingent have yet to demonstrate they are anything of note. Bale is now a midfielder too?
You've constructed a very poor argument here. There's only one country in Europe that is consistently producing a conveyor belt of midfielders of the quality of Eriksen with Germany a distant 2nd, IMHO.
Same as Martinez then? huh?
They are not midfielders but Mata, Silva, Carzola, Isco, Munian, Susaeta are counted as midfielders? Why? Because they are Spanish?
I didn't know that "in the game" only included Europe. My bad!
It will be a day when I'll have to learn "the game" from an American talking Barcelona on a United forum.
They are not midfielders but Mata, Silva, Carzola, Isco, Munian, Susaeta are counted as midfielders? Why? Because they are Spanish?
I didn't know that "in the game" only included Europe. My bad!
It will be a day when I'll have to learn "the game" from an American talking Barcelona on a United forum.
Same as Martinez then? huh?
They are not midfielders but Mata, Silva, Carzola, Isco, Munian, Susaeta are counted as midfielders? Why? Because they are Spanish?
I didn't know that "in the game" only included Europe. My bad!
It will be a day when I'll have to learn "the game" from an American talking Barcelona on a United forum.
Got a point....
Where did I saw he was the same type of player?
What does Nani leaving have to do with Eriksen ?
Not really, no. In the CL there's no player that has covered as much ground as he has. And he did that playing against Real Madrid, Dortmund and City, all whilst being their main creative outlet.
Before this season I wouldn't say he'd fit United but now I don't know. He looks to me to become a top player, not just a very good one.
He might do a Sneijder. Join a big club, not live up to his name then 5 years later be one of the best players in the world one season. I think he's smarter than that. He seems to be very grounded and he seems to think things through. I don't think he's going to join a club where he doesn't see himself being able to break into the first team in the first season. So Real and Barca are out of the picture for him. Even Bayern maybe. England or Italy I'm guessing.
Well I assumed your point was that Nani leaving would open up room for another player. Which I would agree with. I just don't see Eriksen being that player he is way to different from Nani to be brought in in place of him. If Ando leaves it would make a bit more sense.
Same as Martinez then? huh?
They are not midfielders but Mata, Silva, Carzola, Isco, Munian, Susaeta are counted as midfielders? Why? Because they are Spanish?
I didn't know that "in the game" only included Europe. My bad!
It will be a day when I'll have to learn "the game" from an American talking Barcelona on a United forum.
Silva, Cazorla and Isco are definitely counted as midfielders, because their best position is as an advanced playmaker type in the middle. Just like Kagawa. Mata, Muniain and Susaeta you could say are better on the wing and played more there anyways. Half of the list you put up was made of wingers anyways so you can't include those players.
I'm not exactly sure why you're trying to argue the fact that Spain has the best midfielders in the world, and best up and coming ones? It's hardly a controversial statement.
Is this the guy from Liverpool who played 3 or 4 games and now a perennial substitute? Or is there another one that I don't know about?
Also, you diss Hernandes for not starting for Brasil, but include Oriel Romeu who does next to feckall at Chelsea and Suso from Liverpool (if what I'm assume is true) and then have a go about Talent pool in the rest of the world. If we are not careful, we'll be quoting Tom Huddlestone next.
Wingers are nothing but wide midfielders. Bale is as much a midfielder as are Silva or Isco. So, I can include them and I'll will include them.
"Advanced playmaker in the middle" - that refers to their parallel position from the center line of the goal posts, not perpendicular from the middle of the pitch.
I am glad you chimed in but I am not exactly sure you have read through the entire discussion. Might not be a bad idea to have a go at that.
Tbf Hernanes is 27 and can't get ahead of Lucas in the Brazilian NT.
Romeu is only 21. Unfair to compare them.
True, but it's a bit odd to mention Romeu and Suso in the list of midfielders to prove that the conveyor belt of Spanish midfielders is flourishing. Anybody with a bit of potential can be then included in the list then.
You're going on aimlessly, it's a race with no finish line
I have seen obese pensioners who move faster than Romeu, how about that for a comparison?
I don't even know what this discussion is about, but Romeu should not be on a 'list' that has anything to do with good or promising footballers. He's astoundingly poor.
I think that it is safe to say that Barcelona won't be exercising their buy back option on him.
He scored today against Waalwijk.
I love their away jersey.
Nah, looks like Chelsea's.
Eriksen scored with a good curling effort today.
It's at 1:18.
It's at 1:18.
He's a terrific player with bags of experience, in a team that plays good football and is regularly in the Champions League. Still just 21 but has amazing composure and maturity in his game.
He can operate in central, advanced and wide midfield positions, is great on the ball, creates chances and scores brilliant goals.
I think this guy would be a revelation at Manchester United, and easily affordable.
How does he operate in a midfield two? Because let's face it, I don't think we have room for more in advanced midfield (kagawa/rooney) and wide positions (nani,zaha,valencia,young,giggs).
He could play next to Carrick in central midfield, he's played there for Ajax. He generally operates in a central 3 in front of a sitting midfielder, but his movement isn't static he's always popping up where the space is. I'm sure Ferguson can find room for someone with his ability and versatility.
To be honest the forward positions are up for grabs. Van Persie is nailed on but as for the rest nobody is guaranteed their place. Kagawa has a lot of work to do if he wants to make it at United. Next season is massive for him.
You know full well that only 8 people in World football can play in a midfield two.
Can't see us signing Eriksen, as much as I'd like to see a Dane at United. I think he has to play in an advanced role to be effective and we already have Kagawa and Rooney (and Welbeck, I suppose) for that. If we want someone to play in the middle with Carrick/Cleverley there are a lot of better options than Eriksen IMO.
Overmars claims that Liverpool are very interested in Eriksen and Eriksen has said they're an "interesting club" (or something along those lines). Would suck if he went there, but Agger seems to be happy there so I guess he'll put in a few good words if needed.
Overmars claims that Liverpool are very interested in Eriksen and Eriksen has said they're an "interesting club" (or something along those lines). Would suck if he went there, but Agger seems to be happy there so I guess he'll put in a few good words if needed.
He's been very average whenever I've sen him in the past, didnt get what all the fuss was about. A bit like Hamsik, they were both flavour of the month at one point on here until they had a few international games (Euros/World Cup maybe) on TV where everyone saw them and thought they were overrated.
I can hardly think from what I've seen of him that he'd be a worse option than Anderson.
A bit of a generalisation pocco to be fair. Hamsik and Eriksen are bloody good players.
Hamsik is flavour of forever.
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I'd love us to bag him.
nice goal today
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/christian-eriksen-ajax-v-psv/#.UWrOvHwpF_o.twitter
anyone watching this game??
interesting to see how he gets on against Strootman
the winner gets to sign for us
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/christian-eriksen-ajax-v-psv/#.UWrOvHwpF_o.twitter
anyone watching this game??
interesting to see how he gets on against Strootman
the winner gets to sign for us
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