[ZDwyr]

I’m fed up with Smalling. He was ver very good during his second season with us playing as a right back, but since, he’s been awfull. Playing few games, being overrated by most in England, just because he’s English. He’s an absolute nightmare at the back, and will never be the next Rio Ferdinand.

The guys is in his 5th season with us and still considered as a rookie. But that’s only because we can’t trust him. He had a good game against Chelsea because Drogba didn’t offered much, but when Hazard came to him, he destroyed him…

We all know how a dumbass he’s when he enters a pitch, but yesterday was the culmination of it….He’s an athlete it’s true, he’s damn fast and his very good at defensive header, but with the ball, his intelligence, his positional… he’s such a clown.

To be fair with the rest of the group, the club and his own philosophy, Van Gaal should get rid of him rather than later. And it’s the same for Jones also. Those two have been touted as the next England captains, but only on FIFA.

LVG sacked Welbz and Clev without feeling because he thought at the time that they weren’t good enough for him, and they won’t be useful this season… What about Smalling and co? He should sell them and buy fit defenders even less “talented” because they’re not good enough to play for us

Mr Smalling, you’re a fool, good night haha

If he is a clown then Rojo, Jones and the rest must be much, much worse.

 

[Chaky_Best]

If he is a clown then Rojo, Jones and the rest must be much, much worse.

I rate Rojo even lesser than Smalling. Regarding Jones, his headless game is causing his troubles, but Smalling... I can't

 

[iBoss]

I’m fed up with Smalling. He was ver very good during his second season with us playing as a right back, but since, he’s been awfull. Playing few games, being overrated by most in England, just because he’s English. He’s an absolute nightmare at the back, and will never be the next Rio Ferdinand.

The guys is in his 5th season with us and still considered as a rookie. But that’s only because we can’t trust him. He had a good game against Chelsea because Drogba didn’t offered much, but when Hazard came to him, he destroyed him…

We all know how a dumbass he’s when he enters a pitch, but yesterday was the culmination of it….He’s an athlete it’s true, he’s damn fast and his very good at defensive header, but with the ball, his intelligence, his positional… he’s such a clown.

To be fair with the rest of the group, the club and his own philosophy, Van Gaal should get rid of him rather than later. And it’s the same for Jones also. Those two have been touted as the next England captains, but only on FIFA.

LVG sacked Welbz and Clev without feeling because he thought at the time that they weren’t good enough for him, and they won’t be useful this season… What about Smalling and co? He should sell them and buy fit defenders even less “talented” because they’re not good enough to play for us

Mr Smalling, you’re a fool, good night haha

Bullshit.

 

[sizzling sausages]

Rooney got sent off in the 76th minute or so and as stupid as that was, we were already leading and we did not lose points. This moron got himself sent off for 2 stupidly mind numbing cards within the span of 10 mins and before half time, costing us the game. Big difference between the two. I'm still fuming at the sight of his stupid face.

Rooney's red was far earlier than that, we were hanging on for nearly all the second half because of it.

 

[NK86]

I was seething yesterday but since now I have cooled off, I think that was a totally uncharacteristic couple of yellow cards for Smalling. He is not at all like that so I will give him the benefit of doubt. Hope he gets the chance to acquit himself soon.

 

[iBoss]

I was seething yesterday but since now I have cooled off, I think that was a totally uncharacteristic couple of yellow cards for Smalling. He is not at all like that so I will give him the benefit of doubt. Hope he gets the chance to acquit himself soon.

I feel the same way. It was stupid but if anything it will stop him from doing such a stupid thing again in the future. I believe in him as a defender.

 

[NK86]

I feel the same way. It was stupid but if anything it will stop him from doing such a stupid thing again in the future. I believe in him as a defender.

Pretty much. I have seen far worse and stupid red cards from United players in the past than this. Surely it did put us on the backfoot for the rest of the match but one mistake (or 2 in this case) does not make a defender bad.

 

[Empire]

Giving him a fine won't do it, he's not living in poverty. If it mean't he, his wife and his kids couldn't eat for a few days then perhaps he would learn his lesson but essentially it just means his bank statement will have 50k less added to the pile of cash already in there.

20 lashes and then we put it behind us.

 

[Adam-Utd]

The worst thing was blocking Joe Hart. If it was the last 10 minutes or something fair enough, but doing it that early was just needless. I knew from then on he would have to be very careful.

It's a shame as I really like him as a defender, he was solid against Chelsea and then tarnishes himself with doing something like that. He has obviously annoyed LVG too, so that doesn't sit well for him.

He will no doubt know he has made a massive mistake anyway, so there's no need to keep harping on about it.

 

[OJKernow]

Huge mistake and very silly. Doesn't make him a shite footballer like some of the knee-jerkers in here will have you believe, I actually felt a run of games could see him step up a level as he looked decent (not world class) against Chelsea.

He'll learn from it. For me the biggest concern with him and Jones is fitness rather than potential ability.

 

[Borys]

That was weird, if I had to line up our defender in order of the most likely to do such stupid things he would be the last. As annoying as it was, I still believe in him.

 

[revel911]

That was weird, if I had to line up our defender in order of the most likely to do such stupid things he would be the last. As annoying as it was, I still believe in him.

Not even this ..... how many people were calling for Vidic's head every time he got a red card vs a rival of ours?

 

[Rado_N]

 

[togg]

In the heat of the match, it's understandable that people were pissed off with Smalling. They were both pretty idiotic bookings and certainly dimished our chances of getting anything from the game and put a spanner in the works of our growing progression. However, I do think he's been one of our betters players this season so far when he has played and it was pretty uncharateristic of him. I'm sure he was pissed off with himself and disappointed and since he is young, I'm sure he will learn from it.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Not really the day for Virgin to be mocking anyone about one way trips...

 

[DanNistelrooy]

Was a huge fan of his back in 2011 but he has gone backwards if anything. Strange how there is such a split view on who is our best defender but Smalling has done nothing for the past 2 seasons to suggest he is good enough. The sad thing is neither has Jones, and Evans can't keep fit and hasn't looked good since 12/13, so worrying.

 

[Dominos]

I was surprised at his stupidity. It was very uncharacteristic, his disciplinary record for us exemplary to be fair to him.

 

[Jonno]

Was a huge fan of his back in 2011 but he has gone backwards if anything. Strange how there is such a split view on who is our best defender but Smalling has done nothing for the past 2 seasons to suggest he is good enough. The sad thing is neither has Jones, and Evans can't keep fit and hasn't looked good since 12/13, so worrying.

We have more than enough defenders, but when 4 of them are effectively part timers due to their injuries, we suffer miserably by keeping them. I think its time to flog Smalling and Evans or Jones, and bring in a world class centre back or two, and a good natural rightback in.

 

[antsmithmk]

Not really the day for Virgin to be mocking anyone about one way trips...

That is so true. Tweet them that back!

 

[Michael T]

Very very annoying display from Smalling. He made himself look a real twa* in that game. Needs to man-up and mature quickly, or be shipped out and replaced.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

That is so true. Tweet them that back!

I don't tweet. You can have that one for free!

 

[Cutch]

I was surprised at his stupidity. It was very uncharacteristic, his disciplinary record for us exemplary to be fair to him.

Exactly, yet going by some of the posts here you'd think he was constantly rash and getting himself sent off.

He's usually a solid defender with limited ability on the ball and an annoying habit of being injured. He's rarely let us down, unless being injured somehow counts, and so these calls to get rid are mostly knee jerk nonsense. I'm pretty sure if you went back a week or so in this thread you had everyone saying how great he was, and our best defender etc.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

For the second, It's as if he forgot he was on a yellow. For the first, it's as if he forgot he was a centre back.

 

[Minimalist]

Smalling and Jones are in a league of stupidity of their own. Don't even start dragging the other centre backs in with them two idiots.

 

[sizzling sausages]

Smalling and Jones are in a league of stupidity of their own. Don't even start dragging the other centre backs in with them two idiots.

Evans has probably made more stupid mistakes than Smalling has for us. Rojo and Blackett have both also made a couple of brainfarts in their few appearances.

 

[iBoss]

Smalling and Jones are in a league of stupidity of their own. Don't even start dragging the other centre backs in with them two idiots.

Smalling is far from stupid.

 

[Minimalist]

Smalling is far from stupid.

Well in the real world we deal with evidence.

 

[iBoss]

Well in the real world we deal with evidence.

It was uncharacteristic from Smalling.

 

[Il Prete Rosso]

A couple silly mistakes in one game (be it a huge derby) doesn't suddenly make the player shit. The comments I'm seeing in this thread are embarrassing.

 

[Roux]

Smalling needs to learn from this and put it behind him - if he doesn't he'll end up being an absolute liability like Rafael, i cringe every-time that boy gets a yellow card.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

A couple silly mistakes in one game (be it a huge derby) doesn't suddenly make the player shit. The comments I'm seeing in this thread are embarrassing.

Silly mistake or no silly mistake.....brainless or no brainless...Smalling is here in his 5th season and is average

 

[Cro]

I understand people critising Smalling after his performance and his mistakes, as LvG pointed politely out, weren't the smartest decisions. I understand people being angry and in some way he was at fault for losing the derby, because already struggling with many injuries at the back, we didn't really have any decent defender to bring on and will be struggling even more in the coming weeks with Rojos injury and Smalling being suspended. But we also shouldn't just judge him just on that performance. Last week he played a really good game against Chelsea and clearly showed that he is able to play on that high level.

He will learn from his mistakes and considering how big of a game it was, I don't think he will do anything that stupid again in the future.

 

[Escobar]

A couple silly mistakes in one game (be it a huge derby) doesn't suddenly make the player shit. The comments I'm seeing in this thread are embarrassing.

Everyone is pissed at him at rightly so. But some of the comments are even more ridiculous than Smalling yesterday.

I cant believe I have to defend Smalling here after yesterdays game but he's certainly a quality defender

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

I understand people critising Smalling after his performance and his mistakes, as LvG pointed politely out, weren't the smartest decisions. I understand people being angry and in some way he was at fault for losing the derby, because already struggling with many injuries at the back, we didn't really have any decent defender to bring on and will be struggling even more in the coming weeks with Rojos injury and Smalling being suspended. But we also shouldn't just judge him just on that performance. Last week he played a really good game against Chelsea and clearly showed that he is able to play on that high level.

He will learn from his mistakes and considering how big of a game it was, I don't think he will do anything that stupid again in the future.

We are saying the same about Jones and his injuries. He doesn't learn. He was reckless in his Blackburn days and is still reckless in October/November 2014.

 

[Sir A1ex]

We are saying the same about Jones and his injuries. He doesn't learn. He was reckless in his Blackburn days and is still reckless in October/November 2014.

I don't think that's really applicable to Jones though - the deda that he causes his own injuries is way overblown. Yes, his style of play makes them more likely than some other players, much the same could probably be said for Robbo and a lot of other great players. But at the end of the day it's a combination of being easily injured (which may be a problem that hinders his United career, but is one that he can't help) or unlucky. I for one wouldn't want him to try and change how he plays.

 

[Cro]

We are saying the same about Jones and his injuries. He doesn't learn. He was reckless in his Blackburn days and is still reckless in October/November 2014.

How many mistakes like that did Smalling make then?

You can argue that he has some flaws in his game or made some mistakes in certain games, but I wouldn't count him to the players who get sent off for making stupid decisions.

The Jones comparison is not the best to be honest and also implying that he or they 'doesn't learn'. I certainly noticed that Smalling looked far more comfortable on the ball and distributed it better, so it looks like he learned in that department of his game.

 

[Moriarty]

I wasn't happy with Smalling but, in retrospect, allowances must be made. We did not have a recognised right back which means that our central defenders were being dragged out wide. Jones, had he played, might well have made the same error. The first yellow was stupid, the second born of desperation.

 

[ghagua]

Idiotic bookings for Smalling when he should have known better. Worrying thing is, he's not the only one. United players are getting bookings for stupid fouls and stuff this year. Players need to learn very quickly that taking a booking should be the last resort, staying on the pitch and helping your team needs to come first.

 

[Loublaze]

I don't see why Smalling was even given a yellow for the first incident. You see players doing that all the time. Samuel Eto'o did it a lot last season playing for Chelsea and he wasn't yellow carded once.

 

[Kakeru]

Silly mistake or no silly mistake.....brainless or no brainless...Smalling is here in his 5th season and is average

That should kill any discussion from now on. When there's no or very little progress going into a 5th season, that's usually more than enough to cut all ties with a player.