Charlie Foley
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That would have been quite a dressing roomRoy Keane tried to sign him when he was at Sunderland
That would have been quite a dressing roomRoy Keane tried to sign him when he was at Sunderland
You clearly have no idea what a horse collar can do, as I thought.
Chiellini blindsiding someone running at pace, being a good 3 stone heavier, performing a horse collar could easily have done serious damage. As I said, Saka falls differently and this is a different conversation.
There's no need for any false equivalences - it's a horse collar, which shouldn't be anywhere near a football pitch.
Point at hand to my post above. You're balling all shirt pulls into a bunch. They are categorically not the same. If horse collaring was a regular thing, there would soon be serious injuries resulting from them on a football pitch. And worse for kids who have no clue how to break their fall or instinctively plant themselves correctly.This isn’t a new thing. Shirt pulling has been part of football forever. At every level. Even kids football.
Why?Please stop saying horse collar.
First of all, you'd have to collate a number of incidents like what Chiellini did. Can you do that?If anyone can show me an example at top level football where a player has been sent of for pulling a shirt (for violent conduct, not stopping a goalscoring opportunity), I'd be impressed.
Why?
First of all, you'd have to collate a number of incidents like what Chiellini did. Can you do that?
People get pulled down by their shirts all the time. Maybe not as aggressively (though we've seen people have their shirts ripped) but it's still all within the realms of shirt pulling
The onus here is to prove that there's precedent for a shirt pull to be a sending off... Which there simply isn't.
1) there is no onus
2) youre seeking a precedent, precedents are themselves a starting point
If you went on REFs forum, the majority are saying its a red card offense, some say the only reason a red wasnt given was because its a final. It seems in REFs minds this is a red card precedent.
This one’s a cracker.
Great. Since this definitely happened and is not made up, perhaps you can share some of the arguments the refs make for why it was a red card offence?1) there is no onus
2) youre seeking a precedent, precedents are themselves a starting point
If you went on REFs forum, the majority are saying its a red card offense, some say the only reason a red wasnt given was because its a final. It seems in REFs minds this is a red card precedent.
Sign him up to backup Maguire and Varane?Chiellini is a free agent now
Hilarious - and perfectly executed. Good strong fabric in those England shirts. Wonder if teams start to design papery shirts that leave the last ditch guys with a handful of fabric? I guess Adidas wouldn’t go for it?That pull back on Saka was so ridiculous I can't help but admire it.
(Great troll) very funny
aye. i remember walking in on the milkman trolling my mother like that one time.
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