bringbackbebe
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Now they're in the market for Sancho. Oh please let this happen
Maatsen
Guehi
Tomori
Ake
Liveramento
Hudson-Odoi
Gilmour
Gallagher
Olise
Mount
Rice
Solanke
Abraham
Nketiah
All from the academy and all no longer at the club.
Is the above much worse than they’ve spent billions replacing them with?!
The academy has produced some really good players but there’s so much incompetence in terms of integrating and identifying them for the first team.
Calling out their obvious PR.
How is it PR when it's just a fact, the whole reason we aren't signing Osimhen is mainly down to his wage demands.
How is it PR when it's just a fact, the whole reason we aren't signing Osimhen is mainly down to his wage demands.
You know the math will be the same if you get rid of a 300k player and put in 3x100k players in his place (assuming they're all actually at 100k, which I doubt)?
Despite all the mad signings just in sheer numbers their net spend isn't that bad. Was about EUR 177m (£151m) last season and is about EUR 86m (£73.5m) so far. I am sure they are going to sell more players before the end of the window and are going to bring the net figure further down. Also, they have a head start on next season's books with potential £30m incoming if Ipswich stay up.Hate to disappoint you, but no, there isn't. There just isn't. Stop sulking and accept it...
Nothing will change except how the wages are reported by Journalists who will of course report as the club asks them to.
For example, Sterling's wage was reported all inclusive which was more than 300k, but his base wage will be much lower. This 300K+ will include his signing on fee, loyalty bonus, appearance fee , image rights. Now the players who are signed will get all that, except it is reported as base wage + bonus.
Im sure when the financial report is published, their wage bill will be one of the highest in the league.
Despite all the mad signings just in sheer numbers their net spend isn't that bad. Was about EUR 177m (£151m) last season and is about EUR 86m (£73.5m) so far. I am sure they are going to sell more players before the end of the window and are going to bring the net figure further down. Also, they have a head start on next season's books with potential £30m incoming if Ipswich stay up.
Will be interesting to see what's their wage bill is like as all these players must be on a decent whack. However, in terms of transfers fee it doesn't look outrageous based on the net spent figure.
I don't dispute that. Has all the makings of a messy situation that could spiral way out of control. However, if they are able to generate demand for some of highly rated players they seem to have signed then they could keep the wheel spinning. I am sure they have accounted a %age of these players becoming duds and staying on the books forever or going on endless loans that doesn't turn into any profit. One of the advantages of signing young players with potential is that they'd want to play rather than sit on the bench and pick up the cheque for doing nothing for the next 7-8 years. If a players finds himself benched then they are likely to agitate for move elsewhere.They sold a lot of academy players and disbanded an army of core members of the first team over last 2 seasons that brought this figure down. The way I see it, they may do well this season and/or next, but very soon, a lot of these strategic mistakes will catch up on them. They will not have top academy players to sell since they sold all of them (young prospects will worry about joining the Chelsea project). They'll be left with a squad full of Bogardes and Lukakus on a 10 year contract. Young players will start to complain, leaking information to the press. Culture will start to disintegrate. It's already drama 24x7 there, and I can't wait to see what happens in 2 years.
Lukaku is almost certainly going to Napoli at this point. Between him, Ziyech, Silva, and Sarr that's about £45m per year in wages - Neto, Felix, and KDH aren't sniffing 50% of that figure.Their last set of accounts had them at a turnover of £512.5m and wages of £404m (78% wage to turnover). Since then, they've mostly sold academy players who were on low wages + Thaigo. They've brought in Neto, Felix and KDH on higher wages than the academy departures and they will have wages of Lukaku and Kepa in their books this year since they obviously have no takers.
I can't see this ending well.
Because you club makes the same mistakes over and over again sadlyYou post the same thing over and over again.
I don't dispute that. Has all the makings of a messy situation that could spiral way out of control. However, if they are able to generate demand for some of highly rated players they seem to have signed then they could keep the wheel spinning. I am sure they have accounted a %age of these players becoming duds and staying on the books forever or going on endless loans that doesn't turn into any profit. One of the advantages of signing young players with potential is that they'd want to play rather than sit on the bench and pick up the cheque for doing nothing for the next 7-8 years. If a players finds himself benched then they are likely to agitate for move elsewhere.
Also, their academy has been used as a player farm since Roman's time. Spending on academy and youth players is not counted towards FFP but when you sell the player it is counted as pure profit. They have been smart in using that provision for years and I am sure have no plans of abandoning it now.
Central defender.Is he a midfielder @duffer ?
"Star signing" huh? He was a free transfer to replace Chalobah as a squad player.I read that Tosin been left out of the European tie?
Bit odd as this was your star signing at CB. I could understand you playing Fofana at the weekend as he's hardly kicked a ball in two years but would've thought European game would be good way to ease Tosin into the side.
I read that Tosin been left out of the European tie?
Bit odd as this was your star signing at CB. I could understand you playing Fofana at the weekend as he's hardly kicked a ball in two years but would've thought European game would be good way to ease Tosin into the side.
"Star signing" huh? He was a free transfer to replace Chalobah as a squad player.
Colwill and Fofana were always going to be the first choice CBs.
Sort of. It depends on the sport. American sports differ insofar as parity is a priority - so there are salary caps and also drafts where teams select the most promising young players to add to their organizations.Are American sports like this where teams are hoarding players and transferring players for balancing books?
Yes - and Tosin seems to be the Disasi replacement given the latter can't pass a ball to save his life.So Fofana has effectively replaced Silva then if he can stay fit?
So Fofana has effectively replaced Silva then if he can stay fit?
Because you club makes the same mistakes over and over again sadly
Thanks.Central defender.
I don't think they'd be looking to sell any of them. This is pure guesswork but I think they have made signings for the first team and then have purchased players in volume at decent prices to sell them at a profit. If they find a pure gem then the player will be integrated into the team otherwise he'd be sold to other desperate PL clubs looking for signings.Who are these highly rated players they have in their squad right now that they can sell for a substantial profit? Palmer, Santos maybe. Enzo, Mudryk, Cucurella, Diasi, Badiashile, Chilwell, Fofana, Lavia, and Caicedo will be worth 50-60% of what they were purchased for and will hit them in amortization loss. Colwill is the only remaining highly rated academy product (James is on too high a salary to command a big fee). I see 7 GKs in their squad, 3 of them purchased for £20m+.
They're basically betting that even if 1-2 of these random players they've bought turns out to be Ronaldo or Messi, they can hit the jackpot but then, they would have to sell their top players to keep funding this. The odds of someone getting to that level is actually as good as the odds of Zubimendi joining Liverpool this year. Some will end up with a small profit that won't pay even their wages. The rest will be written off.
Their last set of accounts had them at a turnover of £512.5m and wages of £404m (78% wage to turnover). Since then, they've mostly sold academy players who were on low wages + Thaigo. They've brought in Neto, Felix and KDH on higher wages than the academy departures and they will have wages of Lukaku and Kepa in their books this year since they obviously have no takers.
I can't see this ending well.
Lukaku is almost certainly going to Napoli at this point. Between him, Ziyech, Silva, and Sarr that's about £45m per year in wages - Neto, Felix, and KDH aren't sniffing 50% of that figure.
Don't think there's any chance we get Osimhen on his current wages.That's a significant saving, although worth noting that Chelsea have also spent an additional £615m on new players since the 30 June 2023 financial year end report referred to above (£404m wage bill), so even with the savings you mentioned above, the wage bill will presumably have increased this year vs last FY. You might yet be adding Osimhen to the wage bill, too, no? That will be another £15m/£16m a year
You might yet be adding Osimhen to the wage bill, too, no? That will be another £15m/£16m a year
I am pretty sure Felix is paying Chelsea 100k pw for the honor of being part of their squad.Osimhen will be on a £100k/week contract, same level as rest of the players they've bought. He loves Chelsea and can easily be convinced to take a drastic wage cut by Boehly or Egbahli or whoever runs the show.
The only area you could make that argument with is the defense.Maatsen
Guehi
Tomori
Ake
Liveramento
Hudson-Odoi
Gilmour
Gallagher
Olise
Mount
Rice
Solanke
Abraham
Nketiah
All from the academy and all no longer at the club.
Is the above much worse than they’ve spent billions replacing them with?!
The academy has produced some really good players but there’s so much incompetence in terms of integrating and identifying them for the first team.
Osimhen will be on a £100k/week contract, same level as rest of the players they've bought. He loves Chelsea and can easily be convinced to take a drastic wage cut by Boehly or Egbahli or whoever runs the show.
I really want Chelsea’s strategy to fail. They essentially have this side business of Player Trading, underpinned by flogging from their excellent academy. Maybe its a PSR side effect but it’s miserable, and the academy was built on the Abramovich money which so distorted football and will forever sour Chelsea in my eyes.Who are these highly rated players they have in their squad right now that they can sell for a substantial profit? Palmer, Santos maybe. Enzo, Mudryk, Cucurella, Diasi, Badiashile, Chilwell, Fofana, Lavia, and Caicedo will be worth 50-60% of what they were purchased for and will hit them in amortization loss. Colwill is the only remaining highly rated academy product (James is on too high a salary to command a big fee). I see 7 GKs in their squad, 3 of them purchased for £20m+.
They're basically betting that even if 1-2 of these random players they've bought turns out to be Ronaldo or Messi, they can hit the jackpot but then, they would have to sell their top players to keep funding this. The odds of someone getting to that level is actually as good as the odds of Zubimendi joining Liverpool this year. Some will end up with a small profit that won't pay even their wages. The rest will be written off.
Don't think there's any chance we get Osimhen on his current wages.
Also that 2023 report would still include players like Koulibaly, Aubameyang, Kante, Azpilicueta, Kovacic, Havertz, and Felix at his previously much-higher wages. I'd be very surprised if our wage bill was higher for last year compared to 22/23.