But Spurs haven't conceded only 1 goal in their last 15 or so games in England.
I just thought the discrepancy between that stat and that performance tonight was shocking.
Champions League Round of 16 (13th Feb - 14th Mar)
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But Spurs haven't conceded only 1 goal in their last 15 or so games in England.
I just thought the discrepancy between that stat and that performance tonight was shocking.
If their back-line is mediocre, does that mean ours is shit?
Didn't watch £iteh tonight but great performance from Spurs, absolutely bossed it & deserved to win.
There's rumours going about that he's had disagreements with Poch. Be interesting to see If he's back in the side even though it's still a month nearly away from the second leg
Technically 1 goal in their last 15 games in all competitions (Barcelona and Olympiakos included), and most of all, after they changed system and started to play 4-3-2-1 with Matuidi.
When they played 4-2-3-1, like tonight, at the beginning of the season they conceided 14 goals in 13 games of Serie A, 22 in 18 games (all competitions)
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This was said a lot last season too for Madrid. In La Liga Barcelona were for me much better but Madrid kept finding solutions to win almost every match.
I agree with you though, City would be Barcas worst nightmare. When Pep last went to the Nou Camp, Bayern played very well. They happened to run into a Messi on one of his special nights and that turned out to be the difference. No other manager could probably go to the Nou Camp and set up man to man at the back against Neymar Suarez and Messi.
It's looking like we'll have at least 4 english teams in the quarters. i full expect spurs to finish the job at home and us and liverpool to follow suit.
It's nice, if that's the case, there's a good chance we'll have at least 1 team in the semis.
It's nice, if that's the case, there's a good chance we'll have at least 1 team in the semis.
They will. They did it against Pep's Bayern when they were a better team (and it worked).
It won't be the whole game but City will dominate possession, it's just what happens in every Pep game.
Juve really struggled with the press, for me they look done. Apart from the opening nervy minutes from Spurs, Juve were outplayed at home, I think Spurs midfield will muscle them off the park at Wembley. That midfield of Dier/Dembele is tough to deal with, it lacks creativity/passing but is there a more physical midfield in the league? Given that they have an almost like for like replacement in Wanyama for Dier, if anything Wanyama is even more physical.
Juve couldn't just turtle into a shell as usual because spurs have Kane and Alli. Inviting them to come forward and put balls into the box would have been a big risk. Matuidi missing was a huge blow for them as well, really messed up their midfield press and left them with no one to attack Dembele
Agree about the penalty. On the whole, strange game. You feel like spurs played better on the whole, but juventus actually had the better chances
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They were pretty bad in that game actually, lost 3-0 and it should have been more had it not been for Neuer. Their defense was completely open, especially at the start of the match. That's the most suicidal I've ever seen a team start a match in a game as important as a CL semifinal, Pep got it wrong on that tie and one year before against Madrid the same happened. Third year he was unlucky against Atleti.
It might have been 3-0 in the end but it was 0-0 around 80th minute.
And they proceeded to concede 5 goals in the next 100 minutes of that tie.
Pep hasn’t had an impressive showing in CL in 7 years. City aren’t invincible at all
English teams outside of Chelsea and Tottenham got very easy draws. They avoided all the big boys except for Chelsea. Tottenham faced a heavily injured Juve team.
Spurs were class. That was some impressive intent after 2-0.
Yeah, it's not like they topped their groups or anything. Sheer dumb luck is what it is.
For 135 minutes against Atletico Madrid his Bayern was quite possibly the best team i've ever seen. Overwhelming doesn't even begin to describe it
I told you, Spurs would be underestimated. This Juventus defence not conceding goals for so many games was misleading, because they hadn't faced a Spurs side who are so dangerous in possession.
Doesn’t matter if after all the hoopla of five teams making it or or group stage and only two teams end up in quarter finals.
United often have a poor showing in CL when it gets to knockouts, Tottenham played an injured Juve team and Liverpool/Porto should be good but have any of the English sides outside of city face one of the big boys and they aren’t getting through.
Tottenham had the worst Madrid and Dortmund side we’ve seen in years. Liverpool and united had an extremely easy group, Chelsea came in second to Roma, nothing to write home about.
It's game over, we will get blitzed in London
Sorry, not a Pepista here, but simply not true, already mentioned here Bayern vs Atletico, and look at this video vs City:
Or this at home vs Lopetegui Porto:
Bayern was expected to win those games by a wide margin
I am not talking about winning, quality of performance.
Relax nothing is decided yet. Juventus must score first though. The first goal will be crucial in the game and if Spurs get it Juventus is in trouble.
Nah ... it's 60:40 in Spurs favour I'd say ... far from over.
City aren’t invincible at all, and I’d still personally have Barca as favourites in a head to head tie across two legs, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable from some to think City would run out winners, or at least be favourites. Spurs are getting a lot of plaudits here after tonight and sit 20 points behind after 27 games. That’s quite a standard set for the season, nothing to do with the win against Basel tonight.
We beat atletico 3-0 and still didn't look as impressive doing it what bayern did to them in the second leg in '16. If Muller scores his penalty that game ends 7-0. Against Atletico Madrid. A version of atletico madrid that went toe to toe for the league with MSN barcelona and real madrid and beat barcelona in CL, and conceded 18 goals in the league and 5 in CL, two of those at the camp nou playing 10vs11 most of the game and a ref screwing them over.
Even without the penalty bayern created enough chances to score 7 or 8 between the two legs
Just saying
Can't believe some fans think Allegri can do a better job than Conte. 
Can't believe some fans think Allegri can do a better job than Conte.
Knee-jerk reaction.
Conte is the better motivator and laid the foundation to this Juve, but Allegri is much more strategic. He has taken Juve to the next level and one game vs Spurs at home doesn't change that. Allegri's ability to adopt new tactics depending on opposition and context is incredible - such as managing to play with nearly all Juve's attacking players on the pitch against top opposition while simultaneously keeping tight at the back.
Today, that strategy misfired slightly and Kane, Eriksen, Dembele etc did what Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Ronaldo, Aguero etc have failed to do at occasions the past years.
Juve will have Dybala and Mautidi back in the starting line-up for the return leg. It will be an open contest.
Haha, Barca won't defend against City. They'll beat them just like always when Pep faces his former club.
Even though I understand people questioning Buffon on that goal. If you pay attention to details. The way Eriksen run and shoots on the ball it looks like he is going to hit it to the far corner, but he fakes the shot and kicks it hard left insted! Very technical shot indeed!
I think you are exaggerating a little. I'm a Bayern fan and we were better, but certainly not by that margin lol. In fact Atletico was better than us in Madrid and fully deserved to win there, we created feck all the whole game. In Munich we were much better though and definitely would have deserved to go through, but it should have been like 4-2 or so. They also missed a pen that game.
Atletico isn't the type of team that Pep fears anyway. They are definitely more of a counter attacking team but do not have exceptionally quick attackers and fast transition plays. Old Barca and Madrid with their front lines or today's PSG would be much, much more of a problem. LiverppoL probably too, but they are very vulnerable at the back at times unlike the other elite teams.
Tottenham will have Alderwiereld and Rose which will strengthen their backline no end.
Barca, Real/PSG favourites for me. I can see Spurs doing well but they should hope they avoid City/Barca/PSG*
Yes Spurs beat Real but I thin Real were struggling with "champions fatigue". I can see Real upping their game for their match but we shall see who comes out on top. I'm not convinced of PSG's defence and I think against a good attacking team they'll be got at.
Spurs are playing very well and I'm a little jealous that they can play well against the top teams. However, they're the best they've been since ages and they still haven't won a trophy. How long will that go on before people start pointing that out?
City should hope they avoid Liverpool. I can see them being able to beat most teams except for Liverpool, Real and Barca. Liverpool is probably the worst matchup for City.
Yes Spurs beat Real but I thin Real were struggling with "champions fatigue". I can see Real upping their game for their match but we shall see who comes out on top. I'm not convinced of PSG's defence and I think against a good attacking team they'll be got at.
Spurs are playing very well and I'm a little jealous that they can play well against the top teams. However, they're the best they've been since ages and they still haven't won a trophy. How long will that go on before people start pointing that out?
City should hope they avoid Liverpool. I can see them being able to beat most teams except for Liverpool, Real and Barca. Liverpool is probably the worst matchup for City.
Didn't have a chance to watch the Cl games; so watched the Spurs-Juve game just now...basically the typical overreaction to any Spurs game where they play decent because they have some sort of cult following (probably has to do with their english players and Pochettino being everyone's favourite hipster manager).
Juventus created enough chances to be out of sight; but they had poor finishing which gave Spurs some hope. They were a regular threat on the counter attack until the last 15 minutes where Spurs were really good; but then again that wasn't due to tactics but poor goalkeeping from Buffon for the free kick which gave the Spurs players confidence.
All in all, I thought this was a poor showing from both teams. Tottenham for conceding two silly goals and Juventus for not killing off the game when they had the chance. When it comes to the tactical battle; I would say Allegri clearly won and has every right to be frustrated with his players who cost him the game.
Juventus created enough chances to be out of sight; but they had poor finishing which gave Spurs some hope. They were a regular threat on the counter attack until the last 15 minutes where Spurs were really good; but then again that wasn't due to tactics but poor goalkeeping from Buffon for the free kick which gave the Spurs players confidence.
All in all, I thought this was a poor showing from both teams. Tottenham for conceding two silly goals and Juventus for not killing off the game when they had the chance. When it comes to the tactical battle; I would say Allegri clearly won and has every right to be frustrated with his players who cost him the game.
Aye. Also Juve have a few major players out, so that should be taken into consideration too. Not sure if they’ll be back for the home leg but if they are Spurs might not get lucky twice.
It was a poor shot that should never haven been a goal. Buffon completely messed up by not saving a shot that he should have held easily. Buffon's footwork in the first goal was also awkward. It's good for Juve that this is his last season because he's not good enough anymore.
Funny how excuses come in when Spurs get a result, Spurs beat Madrid and excuse was "it's only the group stages, would haven't happened if was knockouts" many people was like 
when Spurs came up against Juventus, gave them no chance, even today people gave Spurs no chance.
Spurs got a result in Turin though and the excuse is "Juventus had players out" boo frickin hoo, that's football. No team is ever 100% and have a full squad to choose from, Spurs also had injury's.
Give credit where credit is due.
when Spurs came up against Juventus, gave them no chance, even today people gave Spurs no chance.Spurs got a result in Turin though and the excuse is "Juventus had players out" boo frickin hoo, that's football. No team is ever 100% and have a full squad to choose from, Spurs also had injury's.
Give credit where credit is due.