As I said...
Champions League Knockouts (12 Aug - 23rd Aug)
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Spain? Brazil? Argentina?Booked for that
Is there a country that produces bigger play-acting cheats than Portugal? Do they coach this into their kids at a young age or something?
Cannot see past a PSG-Bayern final. The elite talent of Neymar and Mbappé against the collective might of the experienced Bavarians.
Looks good on paper but Bayern would strangle PSGs midfield.
Mbappe and neymar would rinse through bayerns ridiculous high line.
I dont think they would play a high line. They could do that v Barca because they had no pace.
Look at how theyve handled Dortmund this season and they are every bit as quick up top
Laporte clipped him.
That has literally zero to do with my pointAh, so it's ok for Lyon to be lucky, but not Juve.
I get your chain of thought now.
Juve luck bad, Lyon luck ok.
As you were
Debating someone who looks at tables and scoreline and does not watch games is rather amusing I must say.
Complete waste of time to even reply further than this as you have no basis as to make your argument which makes this whole debate rather pointless.
Cool,That has literally zero to do with my point
Debating someone who looks at tables and scoreline and does not watch games is rather amusing I must say.
Complete waste of time to even reply further than this as you have no basis as to make your argument which makes this whole debate rather pointless.
Love the fact you just guess that anyone who doesn't agree with your quite frankly ridiculous points mustn't watch football, That is amusing.
Carry on watching the games with your eyes closed, I'll carry on enjoying them.
What kind of notes are City taking?
Pep capitulated. He didn't want to face his former team that had just thrashed his other former team.
Yeh because ‘Bayern are overrated’
I don't know why it never worked out. He had all the makings to be another Rivaldo for them. But that still doesn't change the fact that he is a world class player.
Bayern were shit under Niko Kovač
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Their pressing line is way too high and a competent manager will exploit that with counters and long-balls. Lampard and Setién are not competent managers. And Boateng is the weak link, look what RatFace did to him. I mean, Bayern are now favorites, but they won't thrash Lyon or PSG.
So you’ve gone from they might not even beat Barca 2-1 to they are favourites to win the CL.
Lyon are pushing above their weight. Very well organized but they'll probably lose 3:0 The Bayern attack too good. Definitely a Bayern and PSG final.
Bayern Munich relishes the favourites tag very well. I was expecting them to beat Barcelona but didn't foresee a 8-2. I knew there is a possibility of them thrashing Barca but never thought it could happen again. Bayern would beat Lyon easily and PSG would beat Leipzig. Bayern would beat PSG in the final, they have been the best team in the competition winning all their matches so far, and their experience will show it in the final. I won't even be surprised if PSG gets thrashed by Bayern in the final.
A lot easier to get upsets in this format rather than two legs. Also has to be borne in mind that certain leagues have had a lot more rest than others.
In a 'normal' year I don't believe we would have had so many upsets.
In a normal season City would probably batter Lyon 5-0 in the return leg, I agree.
Its gonna be a Leipzig Lyon final and Lyon will win it.
Leipzig beating that Atletico side could/should have happened in a regular season as well.
Bayern beating that Barca side as well.
PSG beating Atalanta is also not a surprise (though the latter were exhausted in the end).
City didn’t lose because of not enough rest but because of stupid tactics and Sterling missing an absolute sitter.
Not really a „corona impact“.
You really believe Bayern will play the same setup against Neymar and Mbappé that they did against Messi and Suarez?!
Btw, Bayern are absolutely able to trash Lyon.
Felt like Bayern was small favourites over City beforehand. Would put Bayern at like 60/40 over PSG in a one off game, but if PSG is full strength then 60/40 really isn't much and it'll be a good game IMO. Can't see Lyon get there over Bayern at all, they've done brilliantly to get here but I think it'll be the end. PSG - Leipzig probably like 65-35 for PSG, possible but without Werner I think PSG wins by 2 goals.
On one hand its a shame we didn't see Bayern vs City in a one off game, the 2 best teams in the world at their best, but on the other hand feck City so get in Lyon.
On one hand its a shame we didn't see Bayern vs City in a one off game, the 2 best teams in the world at their best, but on the other hand feck City so get in Lyon.
City are not a top 2 team in the world
More likely down to just how stupid a lot of the British public is, refusing to wear masks, having massive parties, ignoring social distancing rules etc., but let's just blame the government, shall we.
Of course that’s a factor too, but the governments inaction for those first 2 weeks was disastrous in hindsight. And the mixed messages since we came out of full lockdown have just confused people. I think it’s fair to say we could have handled it much better.
anyway, this isn’t the politics section, so feck City ‘ feck Liverpool. Lets get that W tonight.
Bitter much ?
no, more that it is a farmers league and his proclamations are for his benefit.Really hope Lyon do the impossible now. Would be a big slap in the face for the plastic oil/energy drink clubs. I don't really wan't Bayern winning it but would still prefer them over PSG and Leipzig.
PSG will win their first CL, and Neymar will have a statue of his sister built for him at the Parc des Princes.
Folks, we are all just being played by the EU deepstate, you know? The UK brexited, France and Germany got the golden power, Italy and Spain share 2nd class spoils. Can-you-see-the-pattern? I would not rule out Leipzig dispatching PSG in the semis and making for a Bundes super final. On the other end, Inter and Sevilla battling for the peasant trophy. I am also reading that Napoleon Macron has called Frau Merkel to discuss the 4th automatic CL spot for France. We all know who is going to lose that spot, after having renounced the EU membership? I would take great offence and move to the Commonwealth Cup asap, in the face of these bloody johnny foreigners!
I would not rule out Leipzig dispatching PSG in the semis and making for a Bundes super final. On the other end, Inter and Sevilla battling for the peasant trophy. I am also reading that Napoleon Macron has called Frau Merkel to discuss the 4th automatic CL spot for France. We all know who is going to lose that spot, after having renounced the EU membership? I would take great offence and move to the Commonwealth Cup asap, in the face of these bloody johnny foreigners!I find it super-duper-funny, that everybody who has never seen Bayern play this CL season lately, has found out that Bayern will always display a super high line of defense. This amount of ridiculously is amazing. Anyway, I promise you already now, that if should Bayern reach the final (vs. PSG, my guess), there will be at least two significant changes in the line up.
What I meant: The Barca line-up, the super high-line, was meat to kill this Barca team. It worked with 8 goals. Period.
Funnily I read that when you posted it and kept thinking about it during the game
Last season
City 1-2 Lyon at the etihad
Lyon 2-2 City in Lyon with Lyon having double the xG of City and City scoring on set pieces.
This season City loses 1-3 and only manages 1 more shot on target over the whole game
There's no normal season in which City 5-0 that team. They're not playing Schalke 04 here.
Spot on, but then again this is a very weak era right now for club teams in general at the top
I keep hearing this here and elsewhere (from Rio on BT Sports for example). You realize, that our insane pressing is only possible with a "ridiculous high line", right? You can't just press with 3 or 4 players at the front and leave the rest way behind. Otherwise your opponent will have enormouse space in midfield once he passed the pressing line.
Additionally, when pressing that intense, you obviously not only put pressure on the player with the ball but also try to reduce the passing opportunities. That means that your defenders have to be really close to the opponents attackers and that the pressing players have to try to put some players in their "Deckungsschatten" (Google say "cover shadow" would be the right translation, is that a word in english football?). Once the opponent passed the first pressing line, the last line should drop a bit.
That being said, we didn't execute the last bit properly against Barca. Especially Davies and Kimmich sometimes were late to start running for a ball behind their back and the pressure on the ball wasn't big enough several times in these situations.
My point is just: Bayerns pressing was admired after the game, but they were critized for the high line in defense. Well, one thing isn't possible without the other.
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There are always people who like to moan, complain, and be kill-joy.
Any great team is capable to be operate as a block: either low block to counter-attack, or high block to dominate the game.
All the pundits also disregard the fact that our line against Barca was even higher than usual precicely because Suarez and Messi don't have the pace to outright punish us after a long ball. I have no doubt that Flick will tinker with it for the Lyon match.