They are maybe the best defensive side around now next to us. Been really good all season. The games I have seen Umtiti is a really good defender and they got a very good goalkeeper as well. Main reason though is a good defensive manager which is more rare for Barcelona to get.
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They are maybe the best defensive side around now next to us. Been really good all season. The games I have seen Umtiti is a really good defender and they got a very good goalkeeper as well. Main reason though is a good defensive manager which is more rare for Barcelona to get.
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Everytime I read Brendan Rodgers is a top level manager I wake up and look to Barcelona vs Celtic last season and the 2 performances vs PSG.
One must think if the man is really able to adapt the way his teams perform against the best teams in Europe, there is losing based in individual quality, and there is being destroyed because you refuse to be more tactically flexible because it sounds atractive to fans saying you are very offensive regardless the quality of the oposition.
Oh, just want to say to the other club in Lisbon
One must think if the man is really able to adapt the way his teams perform against the best teams in Europe, there is losing based in individual quality, and there is being destroyed because you refuse to be more tactically flexible because it sounds atractive to fans saying you are very offensive regardless the quality of the oposition.
Oh, just want to say to the other club in Lisbon
Everytime I read Brendan Rodgers is a top level manager I wake up and look to Barcelona vs Celtic last season and the 2 performances vs PSG.
One must think if the man is really able to adapt the way his teams perform against the best teams in Europe, there is losing based in individual quality, and there is being destroyed because you refuse to be more tactically flexible because it sounds atractive to fans saying you are very offensive regardless the quality of the oposition.
Oh, just want to say to the other club in Lisbon
Who calls Rodgers a top level manager? A side like Celtic have no chance against the likes of Barca and PSG no shame in going out in a blaze of glory. The match v Anderlecht is what really matters for them.
One day, we will pay a LOT of money to Barcelona to get Ter Stegen...
Everytime I read Brendan Rodgers is a top level manager I wake up and look to Barcelona vs Celtic last season and the 2 performances vs PSG.
One must think if the man is really able to adapt the way his teams perform against the best teams in Europe, there is losing based in individual quality, and there is being destroyed because you refuse to be more tactically flexible because it sounds atractive to fans saying you are very offensive regardless the quality of the oposition.
Oh, just want to say to the other club in Lisbon
Why are Benfica so damn terrible? Don’t recall them ever being this bad
Maybe you not, but I certainly read before here some posters saying he was. But that wasn't my main point tbf.
Certainly not, but if he was tactically more flexible he could cause other type of problems to them, of course you cannot compare individual quality, but you can't play against those teams like if you are facing Hamilton or Dundee, imo.
Probably a combination of diferent factors, they sold 4 of their best players, didn't signed quality replacements, other players are aging, then a coach who imo is normal at best, ok a nice guy with good human relations with his players, but tactically limited to say the least.
The love for PSG on here is disgusting, if people don't see it as the death of competitive football your either thick or an enfant. The sooner FFP grow some serious teeth the better, how can any fan base take any glory from simply financially bullying the opposition is beyond me. What pride or satisfaction can be taken from it?
Don't worry, there are millions who find "pride" and "satisfaction". If it were Tottenham, with the same budget and access to players, maybe you woudn't sing the same tune.
English media should hang their head in shame for praising city too.
Sorry, Paris hasn't the right to operate like some clubs in Spain and Great Britain. Sorry
I love the ongoing competitive landscape: the Champions League winner is always Real/Barcelona/Bayern.
FFP doesn't make sense in a world where countries haven't the same fiscal constraints, market size... In which industry do you see a kind of FFP?
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Am I the only one who sees the irony of posting this on the fan forum of a team that financially bullied the opposition regularly.
United fans expressing disdain for PSG should read the wikipedia entry for the term nouveau riche. They will learn a few things about their your own psyche.
PSG won't win it this season either, they're always due to make a mistake. Teams such as Chelsea or Bayern will be up for it when it's february and punish them severely.
Probably, seeing as he’s a Spurs fan.
Both teams you mention will crumble in front of PSG easily. Only City/Real/Barca have a realistic chance of beating them. Maybe Juve as well if all 11 players performed 8/10 on the same day.
I know. Which makes it yet curious.
Curious why?
You'd expect opposition fans to be more objective than united fans about it.
What is there to be objective about really? Billionaire buys club, spends lots of money and wins things.
PSG's fullbacks are where you inflict the pain. The likes of Hazard, Robben will run riot and guys such as Lewandowski or Morata are very good at making the most of the opportunities.
City aren't that good either. PSG as well as City peaked early while Bayern under Heynckes, Chelsea and perhaps United will come later on into full gear.
Maybe i've been too harsh, but imo the aformentioned teams stand a realistic chance of beating PSG or City when it matters. Chelsea for example dismantled Atletico easily and you know better than us how annoyingly good Chelsea can be.
No fan can take glory or pride from a team's victories. They played; we watched.
Really, that's a very odd way of looking at it, why be a supporter at all then?
You only mentioned "financial bullying", which is what United were doing from 1990-2003. You are adding more detail only now.
I find PSG disgusting. Seeing the first ever British club to win the European cup getting trounced 7-1 by a state backed club that didn't even exist when the Lisbon Lions won the European cup is a sad indictment of modern football.
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I think United made the most of the money in football at the time, I have no problems with teams like United, Liverpool etc spending money they have "made" and built up, but I am pretty sure it was never done the way likes of City and PSG are doing.
Yet the media and a lot of fans simply don't see it this way. Its like when football fans chat "You're shit" at the opposition when they are playing a team with much less resources.
PSG will get Mourinho'd, PSG will dominate the game have something like 30 shots. None will go in, DDG will make some worldy saves, they will hit the bar twice. Then they will get hit on the break by Rashford and we will win 1-0 off like 8 shots.
So "financial bullying" done by earned wealth is fine but done through unearned wealth is bad then. Got it.
Just wanted to highlight your double standard. You don't seem to have a problem with the act of "financial bullying" per say but rather who it is done by.
Mourinho's gotten incrementally worse at Mourinho-ing over the last few years.PSG will get Mourinho'd, PSG will dominate the game have something like 30 shots. None will go in, DDG will make some worldy saves, they will hit the bar twice. Then they will get hit on the break by Rashford and we will win 1-0 off like 8 shots.
Used to be a time when you could take a 1-0 lead to the bank for Mourinho teams. Doesn't happen with that regularity now.
I don't see what's hard to grasp here and you seem to be arguing for no reason. Of course I have more respect for a club who has been build rather than one that is bought, I see no double standards there at all.
didn't united raise funds by being on the stock exchange? so in effect we're bought by many
I think most clubs went down that route.
This. Simply pointing out the fact that you do not have a problem with the action of "financial bullying" as you claimd. But the method a club got its wealth. Two totally separate notions yet you seem to mistake one for the other.
Sorry, Paris hasn't the right to operate like some clubs in Spain and Great Britain. Sorry
I love the ongoing competitive landscape: the Champions League winner is always Real/Barcelona/Bayern.
FFP doesn't make sense in a world where countries haven't the same fiscal constraints, market size... In which industry do you see a kind of FFP?
That's the problem, football isn't and should never be an industry, its a sport.
Can you tell me the supposed moral difference between: (a) an obscenely rich self-made guy outbidding others for any object of value and consequently causing a price rise for all, and (b) an obscenely rich lottery winner outbidding others for any object of value and consequently causing a price rise for all? Humour me. Surely, it can't be just due to some internalised logic that only applies to football. If the object was, say, land would your conclusions be the same as they're for football?
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If I have to explain it your never going to understand it, I'm not here to humour you. Clubs that are self built, to me personally are very much different to a club simply being bought and paid for. obviously that idea will be different to each fan depending on who they support.
Again you cant compare football to industry or a land sale, its a sport.
Fwiw, I love what City and PSG are doing with their squads and have every right to so. Those preaching moral pursuit of funds / spending should bugger off and start a church or something.Sorry, Paris hasn't the right to operate like some clubs in Spain and Great Britain. Sorry
I love the ongoing competitive landscape: the Champions League winner is always Real/Barcelona/Bayern.
FFP doesn't make sense in a world where countries haven't the same fiscal constraints, market size... In which industry do you see a kind of FFP?
Also, loved what PSG did to Barcelona this summer. Those arrogant cnuts needed to be taught a lesson.
So if someone doesn't agree with your way of thinking they should bugger off? Nice attitude.
Its quite often not meant literally. It meant "I vehemently disagree" in my post. Apologies if you are not from here and understood it literally.
Ah good job I have my bags packed and was ready to go, I had a good site for a church too.