Cesc Fabregas

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Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

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Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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Yeah, but that was just a load of old bollocks, wasn't it? No club has an assembly line of players that good.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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Cesc's problem isn't of skill. It's of style. He's more than good enough for your side just isn't fitting in. He's brilliant.
 
Pink Moon said:
I can see why. Xavi's 100 5 yard passes in the centre circle are clearly #1 priority. It's like Barcelona didn't watch Cesc and how good he was at Arsenal.

The treatment and criticism he gets by Barca fans is a joke. Pique's been a liability for years now and he doesn't get anywhere near the criticism Fabregas gets. I guess he's the easy target.

He's got double the assists and double the goals Xavi has this season, for what it's worth.

For me he's more than good enough for Barcelona. Guys like Alexis & Pedro should be replaced not Fabregas.
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FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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:lol::lol: Pep's living in cloud cuckoo land if he really thinks that! Amazing.
 
fergieisold said:
:lol::lol: Pep's living in cloud cuckoo land if he really thinks that! Amazing.
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That was back when everyone assumed that because Barca's youngsters came through La Masia and played the same football as their first team core, they were guaranteed another Iniesta-Xavi-Busquets-Messi generation. That's the only reason he wasn't laughed out of town for that little soundbite.

Either that or it was just prematch banter. I highly doubt he still thinks that now.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Cesc's problem isn't of skill. It's of style. He's more than good enough for your side just isn't fitting in. He's brilliant.
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Yep, and anyone who says otherwise is talking bollocks. Barca require such a specialised output from their midfielders and forwards. Range of passing is a good example. At Arsenal, Fabregas could switch without a second's thought between Scholes-esque 60-yard rakers, Xavi-esque 5-yard rapid exchanges and slide-rule through-balls. But that variety just isn't needed at Barca.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif

Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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The irony in Pique pulling his socks up, while being told off for not being switched on, made me chuckle.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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I like Pep, but that was one of the most retarded things I've heard from some manager in last two or three years.

As for Cesc, lack of skill means he can't play in midfield? I don't think Schweinsteiger has more "skill" than Fabregas, yet he is probably best midfielder this year in Europe.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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Pique's problem is he isn't as good as people like to make it out, he started off well but for two seasons now has looked like an average defender.

As for Cesc, his form for Arsenal convinced your club and the great Pep Guardiola to part with £30mill to bring him back. As for what Pep said about the quality coming through, if that was the case then why spend so much to bring Cesc back when you have such talent in the B team? Makes that transfer even more stupid.
 
Barcelona turns into little whores when they wanted Cesc so bad, now they got him but hes too ordinary? :lol:
 
I think Fabregas is a bit of a coward, he has the Arsenal mentality. When the going gets tough he goes into his shell. he's rarely made the difference for them when he's been needed.

Might not agree with what FCBarca says some of the time but he was spot on with Pique, he's far too big for his boots and think's hes much much better than he is. It's amusing to watch him struggle any time a pace attacker gets a run on him :lol:
 
Amar__ said:
I like Pep, but that was one of the most retarded things I've heard from some manager in last two or three years.

As for Cesc, lack of skill means he can't play in midfield? I don't think Schweinsteiger has more "skill" than Fabregas, yet he is probably best midfielder this year in Europe.
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I think too much emphasis is put on skill. When I first saw Pep's comments, I think he was outlining general qualities. Good on the ball, can pick out a pass, intelligent movement etc. If he was to show up at La Masia and play, he wouldn't stand out as much. That is how I took his statement anyway. Obviously if you're British, you're going to take some exception to that. We dont really produce players like that at least in any regularity. Jack is a really talented midfielder. However, I do hope our media and fans don't put too much pressure on him just because we don't see many players of his ilk on English soil on a frequent basis.
 
Dominos said:
Exactly. This can also be pointed out the bellends who still act like possessed teenage girls over the Rooney contract saga, when the most important person at the club got over it years ago.
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Don't get me wrong, I feel like I'd probably get over it fairly quickly. :lol:

Fabregas and Carrick...'kin hell.
 
Do you think the reason Cesc's has fit in as well as he could have by now is because he never has a set position in the team? I mean sometimes he is deployed as a CAM, sometimes in CM, a false 9, sometimes even a striker sort of. He comes of the bench so many times and his role isnt exactly clear. Thats why I said before Barca did not need him YET when they got him 2 years ago. Maybe this year or the next would have perfect I think. Xavi isnt looking the same and his injuries are starting to catch up. And with Cesc in the team, it is also affecting Thiago's development because both of them are eyeing for a spot in the starting lineup that isnt there for either of them.
 
Snake Plissken said:
I think Fabregas is a bit of a coward, he has the Arsenal mentality. When the going gets tough he goes into his shell. he's rarely made the difference for them when he's been needed.
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He's not as good as he thinks he is, is part of the problem, IMO. But, definitely, I think there's a bit of cowardice in him which I pointed out ahead of his transfer, as well.

RDCR07 said:
Do you think the reason Cesc's has fit in as well as he could have by now is because he never has a set position in the team? I mean sometimes he is deployed as a CAM, sometimes in CM, a false 9, sometimes even a striker sort of. He comes of the bench so many times and his role isnt exactly clear. Thats why I said before Barca did not need him YET when they got him 2 years ago. Maybe this year or the next would have perfect I think. Xavi isnt looking the same and his injuries are starting to catch up. And with Cesc in the team, it is also affecting Thiago's development because of them are eyeing for a spot in the starting lineup that isnt there for either of them.
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Need had little to do with it, we were in the middle of the Catalan revolution at the club and Fabregas has been a preoccupation for Barcelona since his poaching years ago. It was never a question of if or why but when

He has the same problem with La Roja, no clear position, because the areas where he does the best in are areas where others are even better than him. I pointed out his skill level is inferior to our midfielders in general but his talent overall is very high, which is why he continues to play in some capacity for club & country.

The Thiago affect is what bothers me more than anything, something will have to be decided in terms of development or else the club risks losing him
 
It goes without saying that he's exactly the type of player we could do with bringing in. If there's a possibility of him leaving Barca, I'm sure we'd be interested at least.
 
FCBarca said:
Piqué's problem is focus. He's become a rock star footballer and a big reason why he does well when paired with a leader like Puyol. Nothing demonstrates that divide than this gif.

Puyol%20I%20swear%20to%20GOD%21.gif


Cesc's problem isn't focus necessarily but a lack of skill to play in this midfield. Take away the space and he becomes a bit ordinary. I wager most of those assists were to Messi which he has had a great on pitch relationship since their days in La Masia.

If he's so good for Barcelona, who plays and who sits? He's not strong enough to supplant anyone in midfield or at forward so it's the bench then? It's a joke to hear Gooners go on about Cesc because he was good for them, I still remember what Pep said about Wilshere - we have an assembly line of players of that quality.
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Just out of interest, where are you from?
 
Relevated said:
Barcelona turns into little whores when they wanted Cesc so bad, now they got him but hes too ordinary? :lol:
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well the whore might look good - but you quickly realize she wasn't as good as you though...or dreamt about :)
 
FCBarca said:
Out of curiosity, how is that relevant?...Are you looking for a penpal or place to crash?
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It's odd how people around these parts get fixated on that. I've had several aggressive replies/private messages pointing out that my being from Canada must be the reason why I said whatever it was that I said. Curious...
 
jem said:
It's odd how people around these parts get fixated on that. I've had several aggressive replies/private messages pointing out that my being from Canada must be the reason why I said whatever it was that I said. Curious...
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Elliott said:
Quit being so precious, moosefecker.
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:lol:

Anyway, I bet at least one of Song, Thaigo and Cesc will be available this summer. Better make sure we're ready to pounce.
 
Fabregas is already a better player than Xavi, but Xavi's game fits the system better. Fabregas' 7 years in England is enough to coach that Barca side out of him. Its not case of skill, Fabregas is one of the most technically accomplished players in the world, but rather the style that doesn't fit the system. His game is too "English", too vertical for Barcelona's midfield.

It reminds me of that WC Final against Holland. Spain spent majority of the game dominating possession, but they were unable to penetrate Holland's defensive block. Fabregas came on and caused all kinds of havoc with his direct movements. Something which Xavi was unable to do throughout the game.
 
Dominos said:
:lol:

Anyway, I bet at least one of Song, Thaigo and Cesc will be available this summer. Better make sure we're ready to pounce.
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You dont really think they are going to sell fagbregas after all the fuss they went through to get him in the first place!
 
DevilRed said:
You dont really think they are going to sell fagbregas after all the fuss they went through to get him in the first place!
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They got rid of Ibrahimovic pretty quick, they don't seem to worry about it.
 
After all that he's still a Gunner at heart.



Cesc Fabregas admits he would love to return to a role at Arsenal one day, possibly during his playing days.
Fabregas arrived in north London in 2003 and spent eight years with Arsene Wenger's side before returning to Barcelona for £25.5m in 2011.
But the 26-year-old has not ruled out the possibility of playing some part at the Emirates in years to come.
"Arsenal is in my heart and always will be. I don't know if I'll have the opportunity to go back and play there one day, or maybe after football," he told The Guardian.
"It's a club that is always going to be there and will always open its doors to me. The club's like a family so, even if it wasn't as a coach, I'm sure they'd give me the chance to play a role.
"Sol (Campbell) is there now. Arsenal help a lot with the formation of coaches. (Dennis) Bergkamp also went there two, three times a week when he was doing his coaching badges.
"In that sense it's a lovely club and there might be the chance to do something with them."
Arsenal top the Premier League table after eight matches and Fabregas believes they have what it takes to claim the crown for the first time since 2004, although he feels the Christmas will could be crucial in deciding the destination of the title.
"I really hope so," he added when asked if Arsenal can win the league. "They've started very well. They look very strong; let's see how they last.
"In the Premier League you can be going well and then you lose two games and you slip away quickly. It's very sudden.
"A lot gets decided over Christmas: the team that hangs in there the best, that can resist the best, will take the title."


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8989718/
 
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