Cesc Fabregas

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No chance that Cesc will leave Barcelona. He's a Barcelona lad and added to that he will know that in a few seasons Xavi won't be around any more. I know they've deployed him a more attacking role but for me he's still awesome in a deep lying playmaker role and they're gonna need that fairly soon. Could be argued they already do because Xavi's way past his best by now. If Barcelona got rid of Fabregas it'd be disastrous business.
 
He won't join us. When RVP joined us, I'm sure I read that he tweeted that he was shocked regarding the Arsenal to United jump. I just get the feeling he'd be too loyal to Arsenal.

Easy for him to say that when he's just joined his boyhood idols.

He may not want to join United but are the Arsenal fans going to be any happier if he joins Chelsea or City? If United were in form him he'd surely at least consider it.

He cant get enough games at Barca so I can see him moving on. Now the novelty's warn off playing for Barca I best sitting on the bench isn't much fun.
 
Easy for him to say that when he's just joined his boyhood idols.

He may not want to join United but are the Arsenal fans going to be any happier if he joins Chelsea or City? If United were in form him he'd surely at least consider it.

He cant get enough games at Barca so I can see him moving on. Now the novelty's warn off playing for Barca I best sitting on the bench isn't much fun.

:rolleyes: You know this how?
 
I can only speak for myself on Cesc and it certainly doesn't represent all or most fans opinion on the player. Seems to be divided into 2 camps, those who never wanted him back and those who are convinced he's the Xavi heir. Admittedly, I didn't want him back but have supported him as a fan. Perhaps I'm tougher on him than others because the expectations and hype have been so high on him. He's better than I gave him credit for initially but my initial impression, even when he was still at Arsenal, still holds which was that he didn't fit the team anymore - this is true even for La Roja, IMO
 
I'd take Cesc, Sanchez, and Song in a heartbeat if Barca were looking to get rid.
 
Rumours circulating that Barcelona are willing to sell for a decent price.

If Barcelona were to sell Cesc, Arsenal have first option, having inserted a clause upon the sale. £30m to have him back.

The bloke I know at Arsenal who keeps me hanging with his ITK information from the club shop tells me that the club are keeping an eye on it.

Wishful thinking I think.
 
Only really sure about Fabregas in those 3.

Song is a Decent player at best right now but has had some issues with respect to his motivation and consistency. Don't really want him that much.

Sanchez i'm 50-50 on right now. He can be a good player, but not sure he can be a great player. We only need a winger if he is a elite player right now or has potential to get there.
 
Only really sure about Fabregas in those 3.

Song is a Decent player at best right now but has had some issues with respect to his motivation and consistency. Don't really want him that much.

Sanchez i'm 50-50 on right now. He can be a good player, but not sure he can be a great player. We only need a winger if he is a elite player right now or has potential to get there.

I think Sanchez would be a better player if he wasn't expected to be a wide forward. He just isn't a goalscorer.

I also doubt we would sign Song due to the ACN. But I would be happy to have him if Fergie decided he was good enough for cover.
 
Fabregas would be awesome but definitely won't happen. I'd actually quite like Song, he's a box to box player which is the sort we need, proven and works well with RVP and potentially available at a good price.
 
Do the likes of Barca and Real ever sell they players to top PL teams? My memory fails me.

They'd prefer selling them abroad then having to face them at home. Plus, the Spanish influx is a more recent phenomena in the Premiership.
 
Only really sure about Fabregas in those 3.

Song is a Decent player at best right now but has had some issues with respect to his motivation and consistency. Don't really want him that much.

Sanchez i'm 50-50 on right now. He can be a good player, but not sure he can be a great player. We only need a winger if he is a elite player right now or has potential to get there.

I'd take all 3 absolutely no question.

Only one I see as being remotely realistic is Song though. He was amongst (if not) the best DMs in the league before he went to Barca and that's an area we're painfully lacking in.

Not to mention he has a great on field relationship with RVP.
 
:rolleyes: You know this how?

What about that sentence leads you to believe it was a statement and not an opinion?

And my opinion is based on the fact that good players rarely enjoy playing second fiddle. He's gone from being a star at Arsenal to a bit part player at Barca. Simple as that.
 
but my initial impression, even when he was still at Arsenal, still holds which was that he didn't fit the team anymore - this is true even for La Roja, IMO

That's an interesting thought. Why do you think he doesn't fit the team anymore? Has he become more direct whereas Barca like to keep possession and play a more slower game? Or is it something else?
 
That's an interesting thought. Why do you think he doesn't fit the team anymore? Has he become more direct whereas Barca like to keep possession and play a more slower game? Or is it something else?

I remember this when Barcelona faced Arsenal too but in tight spaces, Cesc was chasing shadows. The rondo training exercise that is famous around Spain is one of those exercises that players have experienced since they were children. My guess is that Cesc is still one of the worst at it in the squad. My guess would be that this was less emphasized when he went to Arsenal and you eventually lose that sharpness - now he seems to have trouble regaining it, even if he looks better now than at the beginning. Perhaps that will continue to improve but I trust Thiago more

I also think he's been accustomed to playing in front of 2 midfielders who could help maintain shape and relieve him of defensive responsibilities. There he could focus on releasing attacking players, reading/anticipating passing lanes, even defensively. He has a scorers mentality more than he has the usual one for a Barcelona midfielder. I think he simply has more to do now, it's really like he's relearning how to play for us again and it's natural that he'd be behind the rest in that regard.

His deep playmaking skills are an asset but they rarely come into it because he suffers from the pressure he faces without 2 mids protecting him and giving space to work in. I hope the 3-4-3 makes a return otherwise he's going to remain a bench player

Bear in mind, I think he's a terrific player and I'm sure Del Bosque has been trying the best way to use him as well but he really isn't adequate to be a forward or midfielder alone for either team
 
What about that sentence leads you to believe it was a statement and not an opinion?

And my opinion is based on the fact that good players rarely enjoy playing second fiddle. He's gone from being a star at Arsenal to a bit part player at Barca. Simple as that.

In general perhaps but maybe you should treat things on more of a case by case basis. You can also construct the situation in a different matter. Currently, Cesc has 43 appearances this season with 13 goals and 11 assists. Definitely sounds like someone on the periphery. See how I spun it there? He may not be a regular in the side but I doubt leaving Barca would be his choice. If indeed, Barca are trying to raise funds. The boy is 25. Why go back to Arsenal? A team which isn't quite good enough to win trophies. He wouldn't certainly improve them but let's not get carried away.

He's Barca through and through and I'm sure he would rather prove himself worthy to take over Xavi once he retires rather than going back to Arsenal. There's an element of ambition within this story.

I just think it's silly to assume the novelty at being at Barca has been lost because he's not getting more games than some of his teammates. 43 apps isn't bad though.
 
Makes me want to tear my hair out everytime he's Touted as the one who'L replace xavi. Their game is so bloody different that am shocked people who Watch him play still believe he can be the successor unless he suddenly changes his game drastically. Even then, its highly improbable.

I dont think he'S Going anywhere but replacing xavi is not going to be the reason for it.
 
Vilanova has just said that he will go if an 'irresistible bid' comes in for him, or if he demands to leave.

Hmmmm.

If this were to happen I could see him going back to Arsenal (if they have the money to pull it through), City or Chelsea. He'd be a perfect fit at United but we wouldn't go after him, I reckon. First reason is we don't go after rejects, second is he won't represent value.
 
I'd take all 3 absolutely no question.

Only one I see as being remotely realistic is Song though. He was amongst (if not) the best DMs in the league before he went to Barca and that's an area we're painfully lacking in.

Not to mention he has a great on field relationship with RVP.

I don't think he was a DM at Arsenal to be fair.
 
Cesc: "The ongoing exit rumours? I don't pay attention to what is said or written about me. I'm the only one who knows where my future lies," the midfielder told Cadena Cope.
 
I'd be surprised if Fabregas isn't a little annoyed at his role at Barcelona. I know it's a bit obvious, but if you play him as a centre-forward, it's hardly going to give him the impression that the move is working out. I can see him going somewhere.
 
If this were to happen I could see him going back to Arsenal (if they have the money to pull it through), City or Chelsea. He'd be a perfect fit at United but we wouldn't go after him, I reckon. First reason is we don't go after rejects, second is he won't represent value.
That would be an absolutely retarded reason not to sign him.
 
The muppet inside of me has been entertaining the possibility of Fabregas/Song signing for a while now. Both would be excellent signings and it'd be admittedly amusing to see how Arsenal fans reacted to it.

Still though...would I feel like an absolute retard cheering on someone who once threw pizza at Sir Alex Ferguson? Yes... completely. I know this was a long time ago and being a football fan is a fairly irrational and senseless thing anyway but there is surely some line to be drawn somewhere. :lol:
 
If, and its a big IF, we sign him.. it'll be Fergie's decision.. If he doesnt care.. I wont.

He was a kid.. and was spending time with Viera, Pires, Henry, Bergkamp.. not exactly his fault.
 
I would wank myself into a coma if we ever signed Fabregas.
 
I would wank myself into a coma if he's available and we aren't in for him.
 
The muppet inside of me has been entertaining the possibility of Fabregas/Song signing for a while now. Both would be excellent signings and it'd be admittedly amusing to see how Arsenal fans reacted to it.

Still though...would I feel like an absolute retard cheering on someone who once threw pizza at Sir Alex Ferguson? Yes... completely. I know this was a long time ago and being a football fan is a fairly irrational and senseless thing anyway but there is surely some line to be drawn somewhere. :lol:
If, and its a big IF, we sign him.. it'll be Fergie's decision.. If he doesnt care.. I wont.
Exactly. This can also be pointed out the bellends who still act like possessed teenage girls over the Rooney contract saga, when the most important person at the club got over it years ago.
 
Not too arsed about Song

But Fabregas :drool::drool:
 
I hope it's not at the club

I can see why. Xavi's 100 5 yard passes in the centre circle are clearly #1 priority. It's like Barcelona didn't watch Cesc and how good he was at Arsenal.

The treatment and criticism he gets by Barca fans is a joke. Pique's been a liability for years now and he doesn't get anywhere near the criticism Fabregas gets. I guess he's the easy target.

He's got double the assists and double the goals Xavi has this season, for what it's worth.

For me he's more than good enough for Barcelona. Guys like Alexis & Pedro should be replaced not Fabregas.
 
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