completely and utterly spot on...though Fellaini on a free is a bit much. We'd still get a fee. Anderson is dog shite.
Centre Mid options other than Vidal..
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
completely and utterly spot on...though Fellaini on a free is a bit much. We'd still get a fee. Anderson is dog shite.
I still think Carvalho would be the right option for us. An energetic, defensively strong CM that would allow someone like Herrera more freedom going forward.
He's not even close to being the standard we should be looking at...
Schneiderlin,Carvalho,Blind deJong in that order.
It's not maybe constructive for this thread, but for me the only option is Vidal. He would just so much better than everyone else in our midfield. If Scholes think that Fabregas and Kroos is what we should buy and top five player, then he should have a look at Vidal, because he is better than both of them. He would also dominate them in matches when we face these players.
He is a dream of a midfielder.
He is a dream of a midfielder.
Let's go for a mid tier player that's on the cheap for 20 million odd.
Why break recent tradition,
Why break recent tradition,
Charles Aranguiz
Swap Blind for Lucas Silva and that's my list.
Nobody seen much of him?
just a random thought... you know who I've always thought that would fit United perfectly? Lucho Gonzales. yeah... well, that's all I wanted to say.
We need someone who sits deeper to Herrera and can screen in front of defense with good passing range from deep.
Someone like Iturraspe would be a good shout maybe though dealing with Bilbao again can be a nuisance. Carvalho is a interesting one though not worth his release clause right now. Witsel is a interesting shout as well, he has okayish medium to long passing range but is more athletic, screens well and has decent short passing range. He went to Russia for real big money though. Won't be easy to get unless his club wanna sell.
That Lucas Silva actually seems to fill the needs of what we need most, but might not be fully ready yet though still a good signing. Haven't seen much more than Youtube videos mind.
Schneiderlin, Khedira, Bender would be good signings as well but not sure we need or want that type of midfielder unless it is Vidal quality.
Someone like Iturraspe would be a good shout maybe though dealing with Bilbao again can be a nuisance. Carvalho is a interesting one though not worth his release clause right now. Witsel is a interesting shout as well, he has okayish medium to long passing range but is more athletic, screens well and has decent short passing range. He went to Russia for real big money though. Won't be easy to get unless his club wanna sell.
That Lucas Silva actually seems to fill the needs of what we need most, but might not be fully ready yet though still a good signing. Haven't seen much more than Youtube videos mind.
Schneiderlin, Khedira, Bender would be good signings as well but not sure we need or want that type of midfielder unless it is Vidal quality.
William Carvalho please - he has been my main muppet target this summer.
I feel he can be a solid defensive midfielder for us. His defensive capabilities should take some of the onus off Herrera to perform such duties allowing him to focus on being a creative and attack minded midfielder.
Just pay the £30 million or whatever and sign him Woody!
I feel he can be a solid defensive midfielder for us. His defensive capabilities should take some of the onus off Herrera to perform such duties allowing him to focus on being a creative and attack minded midfielder.
Just pay the £30 million or whatever and sign him Woody!
To be perfectly objective, we got dominated by the midfield pairing of Jonjo Shelvey and Ki. The point is that almost any half decent central midfield player will be an improvement over our current lot. The centre of midfield is our obvious weakness and unless a couple of signings come in for that department,it's going to be another long painful season.
7 years ago, maybe. Now... not even if he payed to join us.
As for CM options, Ruben Neves from Porto is seeming like an extraordinary project right now. Just today beat Cristiano Ronaldo's record for youngest portuguese player to play in the Champions League by about a month (17 years 5 months and 8 days vs 17 years 6 months and 10 days). Scored in his league debut and has been fantastic ever since the Pre-season.
Every team has a weakness but successful teams focus on their strengths, I can remember us winning a league with O 'Shea and Giggs in the middle for the entire 2nd half of the season, but we were so attacking and had so much belief we got the results we needed, we need to focus on what way we want to play, gain confidence and basically win most of our matches based on that confidence, it is up to LVG to achieve that, the performance against Swansea was awful but I have more confidence in LVG to correct that over time than the former preston and everton manager.
well yeah, I was thinking about his first spell in Porto. I always thought he had the quality for us or Arsenal. not necessarily as a first teamer, of course...
I do think that Vidal will be a great addition to our team. I will be really pleased if we get him, but having said that, I feel that he is not the perfect guy to be partnering Herrera in our midfield two. I believe guys like Schweinsteiger or a held-back Kroos would combine with Herrera better.
I would have been happier if we signed Kroos than I will be if we sign Vidal. The same holds true for Schweinsteiger if we ignore the age and crockedness factor.
Alonso anyone?
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-see-Arsenal-Chelsea-miss-out-on-Sami-Khedira
Probably complete BS but I'd have him here.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-see-Arsenal-Chelsea-miss-out-on-Sami-Khedira
Probably complete BS but I'd have him here.
Khedira seems like a decent, obtainable option but I just wonder if he's too much of a jack of all trades master of none for LvG's tastes, he's not creative and he's not a DM.
Right now? Just get Di Maria.
Carrick as midfield anchor, stays relatively central, screens defense, controls possession, always offers himself for a pass, builds from deep etc.etc. with Herrera and Di Maria either side to act as terriers who get stuck in, press high, carry the ball forward, link with attackers, help fullbacks to offer width.
4-3-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 - whichever you want to call it.
Di Maria would offer us a brilliant midfield and also quality out wide when we wish to switch. We need both - so right now I'd make Di Maria priority.
Of course, we'll still need to replace Carrick in the near future.
Carrick as midfield anchor, stays relatively central, screens defense, controls possession, always offers himself for a pass, builds from deep etc.etc. with Herrera and Di Maria either side to act as terriers who get stuck in, press high, carry the ball forward, link with attackers, help fullbacks to offer width.
4-3-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 - whichever you want to call it.
Di Maria would offer us a brilliant midfield and also quality out wide when we wish to switch. We need both - so right now I'd make Di Maria priority.
Of course, we'll still need to replace Carrick in the near future.
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I'd take him in an instant. You can't always plan long-term, a season is a long time in itself, but it will never happen.
I can see us settling with Fletch and Carrick and signing Strootman next summer. We've signed Ander, we wouldn't want to seem like a bunch of spoiled brats would we now!?
Since when are teams dominating the game when having 30% of possesion? we were not dominated by any chance. They took 2/3 chances they had that is all. Anyway I agree that our midfield is dreadful, last season we were dominated. We couldn't even pass around. This season it starts to look better. We can keep possesion well but don't create as much chances as we wanted. Once the players got used to this system properley and our key players like RVP,/Welbeck/Rafael/ Shaw will come back we will be stronger..to continue that dreadfull statement. There is strong suggestion and someone like van Gaal who likes to have balance in his team has to see it as well that we should go after some defensive minded midfielder who can play that anchor man role or shield the defense but the one with energy, not carrick who is overrun often by mediocre sides midfielders. Surely it is good to have someone like carrick who can make pass as well but his defensive duties are so overated. We should go for some beasty player who can make room for Herrera to go forward and dictate the play. There are some options of mine in no particular order: Wanyama, Song, Sandro, Schneiderlin, Lucas Silva, Carvalho.. Lucas Silva seems quite unproven and admittedly I've seen only some Youtoube clips about him but he seems to play as deep laying playmaker that likes to tackle which is exactly what we need. But anyone who can be more dynamic, stronger than fletcher/Carrick and is decent passer should come under consideration. If de Jong comes I will not cry either. Strootman is obviously our transfer target for january/next summer but we need atleast one right now.
Just to name a few options
Khedira
Lars Bender
Sven Bender
Luiz Gustavo
Schneiderlin
Gonalons
Blind
Saúl Ñíguez
Kramer
Enzo Perez
Kovacic
Geis
Clasie
W. Carvalho
Verratti
I wonder how many of those Van Gaal rates.
Khedira
Lars Bender
Sven Bender
Luiz Gustavo
Schneiderlin
Gonalons
Blind
Saúl Ñíguez
Kramer
Enzo Perez
Kovacic
Geis
Clasie
W. Carvalho
Verratti
I wonder how many of those Van Gaal rates.
Who's not attainable?Half aren't attainable or at the level required...
Please Kovacic
Lucas Silva does look like the exact type of player we need. Him reinforced with De Jong i will be ok with if we are not going be able to spend big on the Vidal's of this world.
Anderson going in the opposite direction for Lucas Silva. Take De Jong on loan with Fellaini moving to Milan on loan as well
Anderson going in the opposite direction for Lucas Silva. Take De Jong on loan with Fellaini moving to Milan on loan as well
We did that with Fellani. Time to upgrade.
I think that too. Problem is it's going to be one hell of a battle with Roma for price etc. I don't think what we have at the minute will hold out until January. Plus he's not going to be fully match fit until the end of the year either, it's very risky. Maybe if Carrick hadn't gone and fecking injured himself then we would have a little more breathing space until jan.
People saying Anderson is worth selling on a free are deluded. Tell him he's not going to be in our first team squad and won't be played, sell him. He'll get a fee. If you think he couldn't get into any side in the PL at all then you're deluded, he could easily do a good job for a bunch of them. He's unlikely to be good enough for us even with LVG at the helm, but he could definitely be good enough for another club.
Gotta be honest Schneiderlin is decent!
Khedira is surely the obvious one. I think his wage demands are crazy and that's why Arsenal pulled out of a deal. I also doubt that we'd be able to get anyone in better than him.
Would ideally want Di Maria here!!! I am starting to think history may repeat itself and he will go to PSG instead plus I don't have much faith in our ed at the minute so I'm airing on the side of caution and reigning in my inner muppet. The clock is ticking and the days are dwindling and it seems that Real want him gone as soon as possible so they can sign Falcao.
What about the young Southampton lad JWP?
I like Hector Herrera and think he'd complement our other Herrera really well.
Not really a defensive-midfielder, plays on the right wing most of the time for them.
How old is that?
From the last few days, that's the new training kit, right?
It's from today, Rojo's first training session gallery.
He looks really handy on the ball everytime i see him play.
He and Torres in the porto system dispel the myth that two players who have all the attributes of being number 10s,with the right discipline ,can play as left and right central mids,in a 3.