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Erik Ten Hag

No manager wants unathletic midfielders without technique.

Every manager, every system, those aiming for trophies, need midfielders who can run, have a good first touch and pass a ball.

It's not an Amorim thing or a requirement of his particular system. It's universal.

There isn't a midfield set up or system that can have current Casemrio. Not at the top level.
 
Given Mainoo is suspended, he may start alongside Ugarte vs Arsenal - unless Amorim tries something else (like Yoro CB with Mazraoui CDM or Bruno in a pivot with Mount starting)
 
Given Mainoo is suspended, he may start alongside Ugarte vs Arsenal - unless Amorim tries something else (like Yoro CB with Mazraoui CDM or Bruno in a pivot with Mount starting)
He will most certainly start those 2, even if Mainoo was able to play. He's been picking the starting XI and subs to make this happen.

Amorim isn't going to experiment in that game, because what we've been doing is so far fairly effective. I also don't think Mainoo would be that involved anyway. Looks miles off pace/match rhythm.
 
No manager wants unathletic midfielders without technique.

Every manager, every system, those aiming for trophies, need midfielders who can run, have a good first touch and pass a ball.

It's not an Amorim thing or a requirement of his particular system. It's universal.

There isn't a midfield set up or system that can have current Casemrio. Not at the top level.
Not sure why you feel the need to state the obvious
 
Not sure why you feel the need to state the obvious
Well because you saying "Amorim likes athletic midfielders with technique" is an extremely obvious statement.

Amorim and every other manager on the planet.

Casemiro doesn't not suit just Amorim. He doesn't at 33 suit any team/manager looking to win the big trophies.
 
I genuinely don't see what else he's being asked to do compared to the previous "systems". We are not being hit in transition (like under Ten Hag), the counters we suffered were mostly direct balls that the defenders struggled with (in terms of pace). What actually happens is the opposition is able to run past Casemiro in midfield and is targeting him whenever he's isolated.

He looks super heavy (I'd bet he gained a few pounds compared to beginning of the season) and seems to me very uncomfortable in possession. I don't see the "system" changing here, he just is in bad shape or simply too old. He never was a nimble ball carrier like Matic, so he is close to being useless as as a DM at the moment.

That said, he will most likely be used as a more of an attacker in that midfield duo. He still has a good vision and passing IMO.

I'd agree. On paper, this current setup is certainly not worse for him to operate as a midfielder. I think he's finding it hard to get rhythm being rotated and find his role in the team because of the contrast to what he was asked to do before whether by instruction or instinct; transitional play (lots of through balls and fast switches) whilst covering large areas and plugging leaks everywhere. Now, he is playing a far more orthodox midfield two but to excel, he needs to rely on tactical and technical improvements i.e the opposite of his last 2 years with us.

He certainly has it in him but it is a surprise to see a player of his experience find himself like a fish out of a pond these past 2-3 games. What happens in the summer though is the big question.
 
I'd agree. On paper, this current setup is certainly not worse for him to operate as a midfielder. I think he's finding it hard to get rhythm being rotated and find his role in the team because of the contrast to what he was asked to do before whether by instruction or instinct; transitional play (lots of through balls and fast switches) whilst covering large areas and plugging leaks everywhere. Now, he is playing a far more orthodox midfield two but to excel, he needs to rely on tactical and technical improvements i.e the opposite of his last 2 years with us.

He certainly has it in him but it is a surprise to see a player of his experience find himself like a fish out of a pond these past 2-3 games. What happens in the summer though is the big question.
That is exactly my feeling as well, I am quite surprised he looks so bad now. It's not like he's expected to do this and that, it's the basics he's failing at and it seems to me it's purely fitness at the moment. Whether that is age or too much weight it's difficult to tell, but it's not looking good at all. He looked decent with Ugarte so maybe that still works as our first choice midfield for remaining of the season, but him and Mainoo/Eriksen is no-go.
 
Definitely one of our weaker players yesterday, kept getting caught in possession & misplacing passes or playing hopeful long balls. Maybe just an off game because he has been okay recently.
 
Definitely one of our weaker players yesterday, kept getting caught in possession & misplacing passes or playing hopeful long balls. Maybe just an off game because he has been okay recently.

It's just his game. For someone who has played in midfield his entire career he is very slow on the ball. It may also just be the speed of the premier league is too much for him. when things are slow he is steady and fine but as soon as the pace picks up his passing, touch and tackling go out the window. I don't think it's an age thing, I just think if he's not in a 3 and able to be at the base keeping things simple then he struggles once the game gets faster. Against Arsenal I'd start with Bruno and Ugarte in the midfield, with Rashford/Garnacho and Mount in the two 10 positions.
 
Think this season we should only use Casemiro in games we will dominate at home when we want to give Ugarte a break. No chance he can deal with more dynamic midfield, he seems lost off the ball, he isnt sure what the manager wants him to do.
 
It's just his game. For someone who has played in midfield his entire career he is very slow on the ball. It may also just be the speed of the premier league is too much for him. when things are slow he is steady and fine but as soon as the pace picks up his passing, touch and tackling go out the window. I don't think it's an age thing, I just think if he's not in a 3 and able to be at the base keeping things simple then he struggles once the game gets faster. Against Arsenal I'd start with Bruno and Ugarte in the midfield, with Rashford/Garnacho and Mount in the two 10 positions.

I totally agree with this, in a flat two he gets a bit exposed. When you think about it the base of that triangle yesterday was De Ligt and he could ping it around fairly easily, but then we have seen Case in that position against Bodo Glimt and it wasn't exactly a renaissance performance :lol:

I really want all of our guys to do well, but after 3 matches I'm struggling to see where Case is going to fit to be effective.
 
I'm just so glad that the DOF that signed Casemiro for 70M, Antony 80M, Mount 50M, Hojlund 70M, Martinez 60M are gone. Crazy unsustainable spending that could bankrupt the club.
 
Amorim not even giving him a go today even though Bruno was so poor and Ugarte on yellow card I think gives us a picture where he sees Casemiro.
Might also have been pre-planned given the minutes Casemiro played. I think, given that we tried to play a little more conservatively, the chances to make it work with Bruno were even a bit higher than in the last game. And given that we had Mount on the pitch who theoretically could also bolster midfield, the combination seems fine to me.

That being said, I would have played Ugarte and Casemiro as well in this game. Outcome might have been the same though-