We were desperate. ETH just lost his 1st two games. The club was already negotiating but contract doesn't get finalized until after the Brentford loss, when he and his reps are in negotiating stage following Madrid accepting the offer. Casemiro sells himself s one-stop, ready-made solution to midfield woes, given how much people (rightly) complained about not having a top-class specialist DM. The price being that he gets a contract that sees him through until a Saudi/US retirement . ETH is desperate for a CM alongside Eriksen: the club couldn't get him FDJ (mainly because he wouldn't come) and Rabiot's mother is asking Casemiro-style wages for him to move with fans not especially behind signing him. So they bite the bullet on Casemiro's last European meal ticket.
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That felt like those couple of games G Nev played right at the end of his career when he realised his legs had gone….
But I don’t buy into that he is so much less physically capable this season than he was last season. And I’m not speaking about his recents games at CB… more his midfield role.
Last years system “deeper, double pivot, 4231” masked a lots of his physical frailties. We made it tight, and compact, where he excelled in pinching the ball back because he reads the play very well and anticipates passes. But he can only do that when it’s tight, over short distances. Playing him is such an open shape where he has to cover ground is madness.
It also worries me how slow Mainoo is in transition. I don’t see how he ever works in this shape either. Come to think of it, who does this system suit??? No one…
ETH is clueless
But I don’t buy into that he is so much less physically capable this season than he was last season. And I’m not speaking about his recents games at CB… more his midfield role.
Last years system “deeper, double pivot, 4231” masked a lots of his physical frailties. We made it tight, and compact, where he excelled in pinching the ball back because he reads the play very well and anticipates passes. But he can only do that when it’s tight, over short distances. Playing him is such an open shape where he has to cover ground is madness.
It also worries me how slow Mainoo is in transition. I don’t see how he ever works in this shape either. Come to think of it, who does this system suit??? No one…
ETH is clueless
It is this shit the excuse makers always avoid when talking Ten Hag, cause ain't no way you can justify using the players you have in this way.
If it wasn't evident before, he should retire. I'm not sure he should even stick around for the rest of the month. For all the talk of how high of standards he sets himself, he's been appalling all season. He's basically stealing his wages at this point.
He becomes the new scapegoat in media and here.
It’s a short-sighted transfer and we paid too much!
But I feel sorry for him to become scapegoat.
It’s a short-sighted transfer and we paid too much!
But I feel sorry for him to become scapegoat.
Do you know what scapegoat means ?
You can show your anger to ETH and the people messed up two transfer windows and the Glazers, please.
You didn't answer the question
I think people are noticing this as well but I do think you can get away with having one slower midfielder if the other midfielder is a powerful runner and can cover ground. Scholes was quite quick off the mark and could be nasty in the tackle but he was never a powerhouse or super fast, but he didn't need to be. If Mainoo had a stronger player in there with him it'd work better.
Casemiro just looks like he's one of a number of players who's just finished at the club really and not helped by this system we insist on playing.
Oh he has numerous times.
He is a liability wherever he plays. Sad but that is the current situation.
Just as well we put him on a lucrative contract that runs for another couple of years (maybe 3?) at £300k a week that should make him easy to shift.
What’s the word for putting animals down politely?
Nail gun
Edit sorry that’s 2 words!
Past it sadly
winner at the moment but there must be one word to describe.
I was thinking of ‘euthanasia’ but there must be a
Better word for animals/Casemiro
What's with the Brazilian dropoff? Unreal house bad he is.
I said I'd sell him last summer and a few posters jumped at me like a shark 
It was beyond obvious he'd go into a steep decline. Abject in every way possible vs Palace.
It was beyond obvious he'd go into a steep decline. Abject in every way possible vs Palace.
I personally cannot stand him.
I’d gladly never see him play for us again. Although I’ve been saying that for nearly 12 months and yet he continues to play & today even got the armband.
So I fully expect him to see out his ridiculous contract all the while continuing to put in half assed performances, laughing & pissing around everytime he gets beaten or gives the ball away. He’s taking the absolute piss out of the club.
Manchester United Retirement VillageI said I'd sell him last summer and a few posters jumped at me like a shark
It was beyond obvious he'd go into a steep decline. Abject in every way possible vs Palace.
I'd like to think that Casemiro will be the last time the club signs an ageing player for well over the odds, an unfeasibly long contract and sky high wages, just to act as a "stopgap".
But I'm sure we'll do it again.
But I'm sure we'll do it again.
and people keep wondering why. Club owners fall for these aging real madrid exes everytime
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GET THIS FECKING CNUT OUT OF THE FECKING CLUB.....SHAMBOLIC INTENTIONAL BOTTLER.
You seem upset. Just a hunch though.
It would be in our best interest not to play him again for the rest of the season. We need to get rid of him and the longer this continues the less likely we’ll find a buyer. Love his attitude and appreciate him for the player he was but this is just embarrassing for him.
That was exactly like Gary Neville vs West Brom. He is done.
I didn’t watch him too much at Real, was he always this impulsive? Even in midfield he constantly dives into challenges (knowing there is a gap behind him) and makes high risk passes for us. Or did the red card suspensions screw with his head? His base level is not acceptable anyways
I think he's secretly trying to get ETH sacked. Got to be the only explanation for such a drop off.
No, he was positionally excellent, and almost always made his tackles, even the really hard ones. It was very, very hard to get past him. Of course, having Kroos and Modric next to you helps a lot, but he was a huge part of their 3 CL wins in a row. Up there with the likes of Kante as one of the best DMs of this generation for me.
My one worry with signing him was his age, and the fact that he had a lot of mileage in his legs. I thought Bissouma would've been a better signing for us, and cheaper. Unfortunately, that looks to be true.
He won’t even be here next season anyway. So he’s wasting his time
What I don't get us that this only only just turned 32 in Feb. It's not the 1980s, player should be lasting longer than this at the top level nowadays.
Have injuries caused his downfall or does he actually just not give a shit (that seems unlikely given his prior career)?
Have injuries caused his downfall or does he actually just not give a shit (that seems unlikely given his prior career)?
I think it's a combination of all three things:
- He can't run around as much as he could in the past.
- He is being to asked to play in a crazy system which won't make many defenders and midfielders look good.
- He hasn't bothered this season knowing that we aren't going anywhere.
Most surprising/worrying thing for me is that most of his errors don’t really have anything to do with him losing his legs, it’s weird it’s almost as if mentally he seems to have completely lost of sense of how to be a footballer, just seems almost in his own world, how many times over the last few weeks has he needlessly dived in seemingly at random when there’s no danger, it’s really disappointing for such an experienced player, he also seems to lack awareness of what’s happening around him, just a strange drop off all round.
Quick question to everyone. Is Casemiro really dead or is the way we are playing him contributing to him being dead ? I'm a bit torn on the subject
Carragher was spot on, should see this as a game to show he should never play at this level again.
Both. He seems completely finished but ten Hag’s set up exposes his weaknesses in the worst possible way.
Actually, not fair on him or Evans yesterday. We had zero defending from midfield in Mainoo and Eriksen and when you get quick players coming at you it is hard to defend. Casemiro isn't the fastest player on earth either.
Can't say I'm surprised how he has turned out for us, United is where careers come to die nowadays. I am sure he has slowed somewhat since his Madrid days but almost every player that joins us looks god awful, there is a lot more to it than the individual players being at fault.
We'd take a steady eddy right now
Any one with a sound reasoning on how we actually get rid?
This signing is massively on the Glazers.
Complete panic buy and probably threw every plan the transfer team made out of the window when the ship was sinking and their ass was on the line after 2 big defeats for Eric in his debutseason.
This signing is massively on the Glazers.
Complete panic buy and probably threw every plan the transfer team made out of the window when the ship was sinking and their ass was on the line after 2 big defeats for Eric in his debutseason.
Yeha, forget about Disneyland of football. We're sort of like a football Las Vegas.
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