Carlo Ancelotti | Real Madrid manager

I can easily imagine him as a top national team manager. His biggest strength has always been that ability to get the best from his best players. As a Cup boss he's been great. As a tournament boss, he could be ideal.

That said, Brazil's always going to be a funny job - anything other than winning every tournament can look like an under-achievement.
 
sullydnl said:
Ancelotti managing in a World Cup would be a good thing.
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Yeah, he'll be 67 by then and I can imagine managing Brazil at WC being his last tournament as manager before retiring. Of course if it goes well by then and they do well at Copa America.
 
Ancelotti winning World Cup with Brazil to break their 24 year long barren spell on top of having won five major European leagues and 4 Champions Leagues would make him without doubt most decorated manager ever, if he isn't already.
 
Excited to have him on board. The level of Brazilian coaches is pathetic - it's tragic the amount of talent we've wasted at the last few World Cups largely due to subpar quality of coaching.
 
I may be in the minority but I don't think Ancelotti will bring anything different to the Brazilian National team. Ancelotti can be just as stubborn as some Brazilian coaches. The positive is he very good at man management, a great cup manager and has a great history with Brazilian players.

IMO, Pep if he was willing, is the only european manager I would have wanted because I feel he would address an area which Brazil I think Brazil is weak in and that is in midfield.
 
Not an easy job tbh, sky high expectations but their best players will be washed by the time 26 comes around. Between now and then he will have to assemble a new defence with Silva winding down, build a new midfield especially if Casemiro has form or injury problem, and get someone scoring besides Neymar.

On the other hand, the other big NTs besides France and England are also wildly inconsistent, so competition isn’t exactly fierce.
 
Absolute embarrassment for the CBF who had gone as far as to announce him as the next Brazil manager. Somehow they always find a way to stoop even lower than before.
 
I would say he suits Madrid a lot. He deserves this contract. With a lot of injuries and problems, he has done his job well in this season.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
Absolute embarrassment for the CBF who had gone as far as to announce him as the next Brazil manager. Somehow they always find a way to stoop even lower than before.
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That's pretty rough for them. Do they have anybody else lined up seeing as Diniz has pretty much been shitting the bed with the national team?
 
V.O. said:
That's pretty rough for them. Do they have anybody else lined up seeing as Diniz has pretty much been shitting the bed with the national team?
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No, that's the scariest part. They put all their chips on him. Thankfully, there are no more qualifiers until September I think, so plenty of time to come up with a plan B. There is Copa América in the summer but that's a write-off at this point.
 
Red Star One said:
Such a bad look for them really. Do you think they'll go into Copa with Diniz?
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Probably. I don't think it'll work though. Even if his style of play could theoretically work outside the Brazilian league, the national team simply doesn't train together long enough to drill his unique tactical setup into the players.
 
Still can’t believe he managed Everton. And then went straight back to Madrid from there :lol: There probably the worse team he’s got on his CV.
 
does him being such a bad boy make you want him here, more?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68490581

Prosecutors in Spain have called for Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti to be jailed for four years and nine months for allegedly avoiding one million euros (£854,000) in tax.

The charges relate to image rights revenues during his first spell in charge of the club in 2014-15.
The Madrid Community Prosecutor's office accuses the Italian of creating a "confusing" and "complex" system of shell companies to hide extra earnings.

Ancelotti returned to Madrid in 2021.

His lawyer declined to provide a comment to Reuters and La Liga club Real have also not commented.

League leaders Real host RB Leipzig in the second leg of their Champions League last-16 tie on Wednesday night.

Reuters and AFP said the 64-year-old Italian had been charged with two crimes of tax fraud.

"Although he himself declared himself to be a tax resident in Spain and indicated that his home was in Madrid, he only declared in his tax returns the personal remuneration received from Real Madrid," the prosecutor said in a statement, reported by AFP.

He was also accused of having "simulated" the transfer of his image rights to entities "without any real activity" based outside of Spain to avoid paying taxes.

Ancelotti is one of football's most successful managers having had spells at the likes of Juventus, Chelsea, AC Milan, Bayern Munich and Everton during his career.

He is the only man to have won league titles in England, Spain, Italy, Germany and France, and to have won the Champions League four times.

Spain has cracked down on a number of sports stars and celebrities in recent years for alleged tax avoidance.

In 2017 Argentina striker Lionel Messi was handed a 21-month jail sentence, later reduced to a fine, after being found guilty of defrauding Spain of 4.1m euros (£3.5m) during his time at Barcelona.

In 2019, Portugal striker Cristiano Ronaldo accepted an €18.8m (£16.6m) fine for tax evasion charges while he was a Real Madrid player.

The deal included a 23-month jail sentence but in Spain, convicts do not usually do time for sentences under two years.

Later that year former Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho was fined for a similar offence during his time in charge of Madrid.
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Winning a Clasico that basically seals the league for them… he‘s managing an incredible season given all the long injuries they sustained…

Still, no celebration :

 
Such a class manager. People can rave about Pep but for me Carlo is the manager I would have managing my club.
 
AshRK said:
Such a class manager. People can rave about Pep but for me Carlo is the manager I would have managing my club.
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He’s hard to dislike even when his team beats your team.
 
It's easy to win if you're managing Real Madrid and your only oppositions has become mediocre for their usual standards.
 
AshRK said:
Such a class manager. People can rave about Pep but for me Carlo is the manager I would have managing my club.
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He's wonderful. I'm glad he never went to any of our rivals, because he's pretty much impossible to hate. I'm very sad he never managed us.
 
Pintu said:
Winning a Clasico that basically seals the league for them… he‘s managing an incredible season given all the long injuries they sustained…

Still, no celebration :

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Looks almost upset :lol: "Damn it, I told them I was happy with 2-2!"
 
GlasgowCeltic said:
got Chelsea playing the best football of any manager in their Roman era
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Agree. I really liked that Chelsea side (their football) even though they beat us for the title in his 1st season there. Can't really say Chelsea played great football under other managers despite winning so many trophies.
 
A great manager no doubt and his CV doesn't lie, but I don't believe he is the type of manager who can rebuild a team with lots of issue like Arsenal couple years ago or the current Utd. His time with Everton showed that even a great manager he obviously is, he can't do magic.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
A great manager no doubt and his CV doesn't lie, but I don't believe he is the type of manager who can rebuild a team with lots of issue like Arsenal couple years ago or the current Utd. His time with Everton showed that even a great manager he obviously is, he can't do magic.
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He was only there 18 months and finished tenth in his one full season, doesn’t show that at all. Seems like you’re trying to say Arteta is better without saying it
 
OsloRed said:
I will never understand why Chelsea sacked him. Gotta be one of the stupidest manager sackings?
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Yeah Abramovich was pretty brutal with managers. Worked for them at the time I suppose.

Carlo is absolutely magnificent regardless. One of the best of all time.
 
Fenomeno9 said:
I may be in the minority but I don't think Ancelotti will bring anything different to the Brazilian National team. Ancelotti can be just as stubborn as some Brazilian coaches. The positive is he very good at man management, a great cup manager and has a great history with Brazilian players.

IMO, Pep if he was willing, is the only european manager I would have wanted because I feel he would address an area which Brazil I think Brazil is weak in and that is in midfield.
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I feel Pep is almost the opposite of what you need in international football. I'm sure he would do okay because he's an incredible manager but I feel to get the best out of him he needs huge amounts of time to get across his extremely detailed tactical ideas.

I think someone like Ancelotti is ideal, will create an ideal atmosphere amongst the camp and get them in the best headspace to perform over the short period of time. Great man management, easily digestible tactical ideas and a calming presence with huge experience.
 
GhastlyHun said:
Was entirely forgettable for us. Rich man's Kovac going by his Bayern stint.
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His first season was good, in 2017 he had you competing (genuinely competing) with a record-braking Real Madrid side on that UCL tie. Unlucky to lose the first leg with Vidal missing a penalty and Martinez getting a red card… He still made it competitive in the second leg (this time Vidal got the red card) and you took it to extra-time… Under Guardiola you weren’t close to extra-time, you were getting trashed 4-0 and 3-0 when you met Real/Barça…. I believe that tie and the one with Heynckes in 2018 changed the dynamic…
 
Would you take him at United? Or doesn't he fit the 'modern manager' type?
 
tentan said:
Would you take him at United? Or doesn't he fit the 'modern manager' type?
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No. He is one of my favourite managers, maybe my favourite after Sir Alex actually. The man is just the perfect mix of cool and dignified.

Having said that, he is perfect in a very specific setup. He needs to be at a club where tactical input is limited to big games and the main requirement on his man management and establishing the perfect environment. AC Milan of the '00s and Real Madrid are the perfect examples of that. Chelsea when they were still playing with the blueprint of Mourinho were also perfect that. A group of veteran winners who have very high pedigree and who need a gentle hand to guide them through it. But put him in an environment where he needs to build a tactical foundation and coach a team to play in specific patterns and not since his days at Parma in the '90s has he displayed any excellence in doing that. In fact, just remove the pedigree side of it with clubs who are used to CL success and he does underwhelm like he did at Bayern, Napoli and Everton. Maybe he would have been perfect for us right after Sir Alex when we still had winners and veterans in the squad and our success was recent enough that we still commanded the required pedigree and personality. But now we need a lot of work from the ground up and he is just not suited to that.
 
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