The fight? He spends most games on the floor having hissy fits. And if people get annoyed with clips of Maguire losing the ball with simple passes, they're in for a big shock when Bruno gets more attention.
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Varane would be the most suitable candidate if he wasn’t built like a jigsaw.
That's mostly this season though and that happens while all the rest look like not being bothered to even do that. I'm not saying he is perfect but from what we have, he is the choice.
That’s not even close to what happened. Media making noise about absolutely nothing. In fact, I’m sure I’ve seen similar disappointment from Bruno going off, but it just wasn’t a story because it wasn’t a story.
I didn't say you had to be loud and there are massive differences between being loud and communicating effectively, as such there are multiple reasons why De Gea isn't a leader, you've deleted other reasons I gave from the quoted post. He's miles away from being any kind of a leader.
Disappointment is fine and normal, no one likes to be subbed off but what Ronaldo did is worse than being disappointment. Rangnick needed to sit next to Ronaldo and cheered him up like convincing a child. That's not good view in front of the other players and young players. Roy Keane would be disappointed if he was subbed off but he wouldn't keep crying for long period until your manager sit next to you to cheer you up like a child.
Said in another thread it might be best for Maguire's form if the club give the captaincy to someone else-just invent some excuse and back up with some PR that states that he's very valuable to United, and a leader in his own right etc etc.
It was nothing. No bottles kicked, no bibs thrown, not straight down the tunnel, no arguing with the manager. You’ve just been roped in by Sky’s constant push to turn football into WWE/a soap opera. Absolutely nothing at all. Sky decided they would film Ronaldo for two minutes instead of the actual game looking for drama.
Why are you assuming it wont be haz? have you heard something?
Bruno, DDG, or Varane.
Donny will rise from the ashes and become our champion.
Exactly, could really spur McT on and really pull the team with him. A bit like liverpools position with having it to Henderson. Also a limited player but a good captain. To be fair as it stands Dave is the only player you could consider
Ten Hag take captaincy off him, bench him for most games as will bring in a centre half that has speed and is much better.
Maguire get dropped from england squad with World Cup year coming up as well.
Maguire get dropped from england squad with World Cup year coming up as well.
Yep, from the same people who told them Donny would be playing under Ralf instead of McFred.
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I read them, I just felt this was the most valid take away from your sentiments is all.
De Gea isn't ideal as captain but he sure is better than Maguire or Bruno.
After Ronaldo he is our most experienced player having done it all pretty much at club and international level and in Europe and he's still young enough also and plays pretty much every game.
One thing I will say is, he has improved a lot verbally I've found this season... his faults are that he sticks to his line far too much still.
Well, I'm not using Sky. So I saw something that you probably don't see.
If a manager needed to sit next to the player to cheer him up during the game like convincing a child then it was not just ''nothing'' to me.
Problem is we don't have that at the club. The only players who show captain characteristics for me are Ronaldo (short term solution) and McTominay (should be a squad player). Bruno would be the pick if he'd stop acting like such a brat half the time...
After the phone slapping and refusing to punish him.. it would definitely not look good to make him club captain.
Makes sense for Ronaldo if he stays for another year, and It'd give ETH the chance to assess the players properly.
Outside Ronaldo I don't see any genuine leaders on the team. Bruno has this frustrated body language about him and whines more than he leads, but with proper guidance he could step up.
Outside Ronaldo I don't see any genuine leaders on the team. Bruno has this frustrated body language about him and whines more than he leads, but with proper guidance he could step up.
Meh...nobody's perfect. At least he showed passion and was visibly upset about the result while others are doing dances and posing for TikTok. Besides, one of our best captains ever dropkicked a fan
Henderson is a much better player than McTominay. I do wish McTominay was better at actually playing football as mentally he is probably the best candidate for captaincy in the team, but unfortunately he's one of the players I don't expect to be starting much next season.
Really depends on if Ten Hag fancies him though, he’s a bit of an enigma as a player and he’s so indisciplined positionally which, if we believe the stories about ETH and how he wants to play, makes it an interesting situation.
There’s no real standout candidate, I personally think CB and CM always makes sense but I guess it just shows the lack of leadership we have in the team that I can’t really think of anyone who deserves it.
Agree with this. Really, De Gea should have gotten it when Ole made Maguire captain for the reasons you've stated.
There used to be a thread on here about how unreliable Jamie Jackson is. Read that article and then think about it for a second, he’s not quoting a source or doing an interview so what he he done, spoken directly to Ten Hag who is literally just been announced and gone through the squad with him?
Dave, give it to Dave. He may well revel in the role & maintain top form.
I just don't agree, both are more likely candidates to be captain than De Gea. Maguire is by far the biggest talker and organiser on the pitch outside of Ronaldo, the issue is that he may have gone past the point of no return with his teammates and the fans with his dreadful form. Fernandes is probably our most influential player in that when we play when, he's invariably had a good game, but when we don't, it's rare that he's played well.
De Gea brings a lot of issues, not just the sticking to his line, his lack of communication causes major problems defensively, as does his inability to distribute the ball. Making him captain would be ridiculous as he's a player that should be moved on sooner rather than later, regardless of whether or not he was a good leader - which he pretty clearly isn't. I'd be astonished if Ten Hag persists with him for longer than 12 months, let alone makes him captain.
Yeah I agree not one of them should be considered. We need a captain though and Bruno just looks like the only one with some fight. Tactical disciple is anathema to our squad so ETH will have a difficult choice.
Captain Varane
Vice Captain Tchouameni or Rice
Vice Captain Tchouameni or Rice
Donny 
Look who's out in the media discussing the new appointment.
Give it to Martial when he comes back.
Maybe the thing is to start off with a clean slate with no named Captain and tell the squad that attitudes and performaces over the summer in training, and in preseason games, will influence who ETH chooses.
In a power move, ETH should wear the band on the touchline and only give it up if someone can prove themselves 
One of the 1st things ETH needs to do is tell Maguire he won’t be captain next season. He can spend the summer thinking about who but I’d go with Varane . If you don’t respect what he’s won you shouldn’t be at the club
Isn't Ronaldo the Captain of Portugal?
Should be De Gea. He's basically been auditioning for it with his recent post match interviews.
DDG as Club Capitan and CR7 as vice captain. Expect Dave to play every game but Ronaldo can also be a voice further up the pitch when he comes on to score another hat trick late on.
For me it'd have to be one of Ronaldo or De Gea.
I am a big believer in the fact that the importance of the captaincy in football is largely somewhat overstated in this day and age when it comes to actually impacting performance on the pitch. You hand the captain's armband to mostly anyone on the City team and it's not going to prevent them for challenging for titles. Likewise, you hand the captain's armband to mostly anyone in our current setup and it won't make us a coherent unit.
In the days where tactics and training were less sophisticated, having a great leader on the pitch probably made a much greater difference to a side's fortune, since one man might be more capable of galvanising a team and dragging them to victory through sheer force of will. Nowadays, the very best sides have patterns of play so well-drilled in training that you simply cannot rely on one man to be ordering the side around. You would get ruthlessly exposed by any competent unit. The days of "Captain Fantastic" heroically leading his team to glory are, in my view, past us.
So having said all of that, why do I think we should give the captaincy to Ronaldo or De Gea? Why not just leave it with Maguire? Well, for me it has to do with pressure.
When people get angry, as we fans are right now at the team's performance, a natural reaction is to play the blame game. To use a term often banded around here, it's often popular to pick out a "scapegoat". Harry Maguire came to the club with a world-record transfer fee but without the pedigree within the game to back that up. Before he'd been able to properly embed himself at the club and endear himself to the fans, he was also made captain. And on top of all that, his form this season has been truly terrible. He is almost the perfect lightning rod for the anger that we're feeling at the team's performances right now, and given all of this it is not difficult to imagine that his stress levels are through the roof.
One massive mistake Solskjaer made in handing the captaincy to Maguire was failing to realise that, when the team is going through a rough patch, a crucial role for the captain is to provide a bridge between a disheartened team and a fanbase that probably is not warming to them. For that reason, one thing that is absolutely essential for any captain is that they have built up ample credit with the fans themselves. Maguire had only been at the club six months when the decision was made to give him the armband, and his pedigree was not sufficient to overcome that.
Right now, I don't think we need a captain who will shout and holler at the players, ordering them around. We just need someone to provide reassurance to a fanbase that has lost all love for its team. It has to be someone who the fans had grown to like prior to this shitshow, and for me the only two that fit the bill are Ronaldo and De Gea.
I am a big believer in the fact that the importance of the captaincy in football is largely somewhat overstated in this day and age when it comes to actually impacting performance on the pitch. You hand the captain's armband to mostly anyone on the City team and it's not going to prevent them for challenging for titles. Likewise, you hand the captain's armband to mostly anyone in our current setup and it won't make us a coherent unit.
In the days where tactics and training were less sophisticated, having a great leader on the pitch probably made a much greater difference to a side's fortune, since one man might be more capable of galvanising a team and dragging them to victory through sheer force of will. Nowadays, the very best sides have patterns of play so well-drilled in training that you simply cannot rely on one man to be ordering the side around. You would get ruthlessly exposed by any competent unit. The days of "Captain Fantastic" heroically leading his team to glory are, in my view, past us.
So having said all of that, why do I think we should give the captaincy to Ronaldo or De Gea? Why not just leave it with Maguire? Well, for me it has to do with pressure.
When people get angry, as we fans are right now at the team's performance, a natural reaction is to play the blame game. To use a term often banded around here, it's often popular to pick out a "scapegoat". Harry Maguire came to the club with a world-record transfer fee but without the pedigree within the game to back that up. Before he'd been able to properly embed himself at the club and endear himself to the fans, he was also made captain. And on top of all that, his form this season has been truly terrible. He is almost the perfect lightning rod for the anger that we're feeling at the team's performances right now, and given all of this it is not difficult to imagine that his stress levels are through the roof.
One massive mistake Solskjaer made in handing the captaincy to Maguire was failing to realise that, when the team is going through a rough patch, a crucial role for the captain is to provide a bridge between a disheartened team and a fanbase that probably is not warming to them. For that reason, one thing that is absolutely essential for any captain is that they have built up ample credit with the fans themselves. Maguire had only been at the club six months when the decision was made to give him the armband, and his pedigree was not sufficient to overcome that.
Right now, I don't think we need a captain who will shout and holler at the players, ordering them around. We just need someone to provide reassurance to a fanbase that has lost all love for its team. It has to be someone who the fans had grown to like prior to this shitshow, and for me the only two that fit the bill are Ronaldo and De Gea.