Captaincy…

Henderson also immediately takes the armband when he comes on for Liverpool. It’s actually not the right thing to do imo, either wear it from the beginning or leave it to the player who was wearing it from the start.
I remember Ramos wearing it and when Casillas came on he offered it to him, but Casillas declined so Ramos continued wearing it (can’t remember anymore if it was for Madrid or Spain).
 
Henderson also immediately takes the armband when he comes on for Liverpool. It’s actually not the right thing to do imo, either wear it from the beginning or leave it to the player who was wearing it from the start.
I remember Ramos wearing it and when Casillas came on he offered it to him, but Casillas declined so Ramos continued wearing it (can’t remember anymore if it was for Madrid or Spain).
That’s because Henderson is an insecure painfully average midfielder who’s lucked out staying at Liverpool over the last few seasons.
 
So when do we think Maguire is going to lose the armband?

I think it will happen, he isn't first choice anymore and honestly it seems like he'd be better off without it
 
It would appear Maguire is all but done as the Captain, but stripping him of it at the moment could be damaging (as we have seen elsewhere).

Maguire I think will be the next wave of players ten Hag will look to ship out. He will “officially” remain Captain until that point, I’m guessing.
 
We’ve had Neville as club captain when he was far from the playing x1 for multiple seasons. Having Bruno as the playing captain and Maguire as club captain is nothing that needs to be addressed immediately.
 
So when do we think Maguire is going to lose the armband?

I think it will happen, he isn't first choice anymore and honestly it seems like he'd be better off without it
I doubt he'll officially lose the armband until he leaves, but a crown doesn't make a king and the players know this.
 
When last did a player lose the captaincy for non disciplinary reasons and still stayed at the club?
Think Harry will keep the armband as long as he is still here.
 
I like hearing ETH talk about Varane as a leader. I'd like him to be the next captain.
 
We’ve had Neville as club captain when he was far from the playing x1 for multiple seasons. Having Bruno as the playing captain and Maguire as club captain is nothing that needs to be addressed immediately.
There is a difference. One is a club legend who's career was winding down. The other is an imposter of a footballer.
 
Just make the inevitable happen now and give it to Martinez for the next 10 years.
 
Bruno, and eventually it'll be Martinez. He's got the right attitude and the leadership.
 
I think it's smart that ETH is taking his time with the captain issue. If he takes it from Maguire after a couple games it could put pressure on Bruno. It will also cause more media BS. So he's just keeping maggy on the bench and letting Bruno captain the side quietly.
 
Bruno is a bit temperamental for the captain but Keane was too. I'd make Bruno the captain next year. He's been here for a while and he is very dedicated to United.
 
With all due respect to Phil Jones, & I certainly have more than a lot do here, Varane wearing the 19 for us is a pisstake. Get him the 4 & the armband.

You'll be cancelled for that grossly insensitive while absolutely sensible comment.
 
It may annoy some, but it's blatantly obvious who EtH has in mind as captain.
 
It should be Bruno. He has been at the club for more than 2 years, he is vocal, he will be in the referee's ear. This is an under-appreciated quality, referees are absolutely influenced by team captains.

As for Martinez or Varane, they could make good captains, but you should not be at United for only a few months or even a year and be captain.
 
Fernandes seems to be growing into the captain's role and is certainly more suited to it than Maguire. Maguire was a pretty poor choice at the time, we didn't have many leaders or experienced players when Young left but Maguire had barely been in the door 5 minutes himself.

Ten Hag has been clever in the way he has done this though. Keeping Maguire as captain and gradually phasing him out while he figures it out is much smarter than coming in straight away and causing a fracas by making immediate changes.
 
Bruno and Varane, Captain and Vice Captain in my view. Add Lisandro as 3rd captain as well since he's ETH's most trustable player in the squad. 100% not Ronaldo like what people mentioned on the early pages of this thread.
 
Fernandes seems to be growing into the captain's role and is certainly more suited to it than Maguire. Maguire was a pretty poor choice at the time, we didn't have many leaders or experienced players when Young left but Maguire had barely been in the door 5 minutes himself.

Ten Hag has been clever in the way he has done this though. Keeping Maguire as captain and gradually phasing him out while he figures it out is much smarter than coming in straight away and causing a fracas by making immediate changes.
I have heard this mentioned a lot, but De Gea was an option, somebody who played under Fergie and had won the league. Was also player of the year multiple times. Granted not a very vocal player but then Maguire isn't either. Can speak pretty good English too depsite what the Maguire camp has leaked.

The United heirarchy and Ole were blinded by their own myths that Maguire was going to play like Virgil van Dijk, and that he would be a leader just because we were stupid enough to make him the most expensive defender in the world.
 
Bruno and Varane, Captain and Vice Captain in my view. Add Lisandro as 3rd captain as well since he's ETH's most trustable player in the squad. 100% not Ronaldo like what people mentioned on the early pages of this thread.
Bruno yes, but De Gea for vice captain I would say.

Let Varane and Martinez do what they are doing for 1 full year. They are unlikely to go the way of Maguire, but we don't want to be making the same mistake we did with 'Arry. In any case, it is good to see new and better leaders emerge in the squad.
 
Bruno yes, but De Gea for vice captain I would say.

Let Varane and Martinez do what they are doing for 1 full year. They are unlikely to go the way of Maguire, but we don't want to be making the same mistake we did with 'Arry.
I disagree with DDG. He's not vocal enough imo and there is a reason why ETH picks Bruno over DDG despite of DDG been here much longer than Bruno. Moreover, I can see DDG being upgraded next summer so I would like to see someone who is likely going to be in ETH main players next season. May be DDG before Lisandro 1 full year this season. I don't see why should Varane wait another year since he has been here for more than a season. Well technically he will wait another year since Maguire is still in the club.

ETH has been specifically named Varane as leader in his interview, while (correct me if I am wrong) I haven't hear ETH mention DDG as leader.
 
I disagree with DDG. He's not vocal enough imo and there is a reason why ETH picks Bruno over DDG despite of DDG been here much longer than Bruno. Moreover, I can see DDG being upgraded next summer so I would like to see someone who is likely going to be in ETH main players next season. May be DDG before Lisandro 1 full year this season. I don't see why should Varane wait another year since he has been here for more than a season. Well technically he will wait another year since Maguire is still in the club.

ETH has been specifically named Varane as leader in his interview, while (correct me if I am wrong) I haven't hear ETH mention DDG as leader.
Fair enough.
 
I have heard this mentioned a lot, but De Gea was an option, somebody who played under Fergie and had won the league. Was also player of the year multiple times. Granted not a very vocal player but then Maguire isn't either. Can speak pretty good English too depsite what the Maguire camp has leaked.

The United heirarchy and Ole were blinded by their own myths that Maguire was going to play like Virgil van Dijk, and that he would be a leader just because we were stupid enough to make him the most expensive defender in the world.
Maguire was a poor choice but I didn't/don't see de Gea as an option either. He's pretty meek and can't even command his own penalty area, never mind the whole team. I think it would've been just another complication for him, he's struggled for form anyway, the additional scrutiny of the captaincy might have broken him just as much as Maguire.

Winning the league with Ferguson isn't a criteria for captaincy either. Phil Jones would be top of the list if that were the case.
 
Maguire was a poor choice but I didn't/don't see de Gea as an option either. He's pretty meek and can't even command his own penalty area, never mind the whole team. I think it would've been just another complication for him, he's struggled for form anyway, the additional scrutiny of the captaincy might have broken him just as much as Maguire.

Winning the league with Ferguson isn't a criteria for captaincy either. Phil Jones would be top of the list if that were the case.
Phil Jones is always injured.

Anyway, not saying De Gea would have been the ideal choice but certainly a better one if the choice were between him and Maguire.