Cancel Culture

Millennial snowflakes and their cancel culture will be the end of free speech



Being a teacher myself, every fibre of my body hurts reading that.

“Parents can opt out their child from any part of the curriculum and the teacher will have to provide a different lesson plan for that child” and “parental review”.

Lunatics
 
I like how republicans want less government, but also more government interference into the curriculum of schools. Schrodingers libertarian.

I know it's not really similar, feck you.

My prediction is they will spin this as parents back control of education from out of control government bureaucrats and they'll pretend they the Nazi thing is just liberal snowflake make-believe

Can't remember all of them, but bills like this have been written/passed in Fl, Texas, Wisconsin, Indiana, and more.

This bill is from Indiana (Indiana Senate Bill 167).
 
That’s that right wing nut job bill from Indiana, isn’t it? Any right wing teacher there that supports that can enjoy the class sizes they have due to the exodus of folks from the profession. I was glad to see the state senator supporting the bill called out on it yesterday.

But this is just including parents in the education of their children. Won't someone think of the parents?
 
Currently in Portugal there's a case in court about 2 kids whose parents decided to withdraw them from a mandatory class called "Citizenship and Development". In this class kids learn about a lot of stuff, from human rights to road safety, from financial literacy to volunteer work... really a bunch of very different stuff but very useful for kids in my opinion. Two of the sections are gender equality and sexuality, which made these parents go crazy.

According to the rules they can't pass the year without attending these classes (they don't have evaluation, kids just have to attend and complete a few group tasks which are very basic) and currently a court said they should progress in order to attend other subjects while the case is in court, but the portuguese state hasn't backed down and they really want the kids to either go the class or not progress to the next grade.

On the one hand I feel sorry for the kids (they're 12 and 14), who by all accounts are very good students, but on the other hand I really hope the state wins the case, otherwise the right wing nuts will just remove their children from this class.
 
i think online political cancellations suck, but today i'm watching the kpop stans go at it and they're on a different level in viciousness and directness.

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Another guy (who has gone private) got this:
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for saying that the kpop guy will age one day.
 
Another day, another almighty Twitter pile-on.



This nurse (well, mainly her husband) got an absolute ton of online abuse because she cleared the snow off her drive after working a shift in the hospital (which means he’s an abusive bully and their marriage is a sham, according to the righteous)

 
i think online political cancellations suck, but today i'm watching the kpop stans go at it and they're on a different level in viciousness and directness.

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leads directly to:

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Another guy (who has gone private) got this:
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for saying that the kpop guy will age one day.

Yikes.

Though I remember One Direction fans being similarly brutal on Twitter a few years ago, when that group was relevant. They once piled on to Gabby Agbonlahor, threatening to castrate and kill him, because he stuck a challenge on a member of 1D in a testimonial match.

I also remember watching some Channel 4 doc years ago about the online One Direction fandom, and how they seemed to operate like a hooligan firm. Ironically, fans of One Direction were furious about the documentary, and threatened to kill the people responsible. Pretty sure there was one tweet in particularly threatening to blow up Channel 4 HQ. Mental.

Pop music is vicious.
 
i think online political cancellations suck, but today i'm watching the kpop stans go at it and they're on a different level in viciousness and directness.

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leads directly to:

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Another guy (who has gone private) got this:
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for saying that the kpop guy will age one day.

If that's not a sign of mental illness, I don't know what is. I genuinely feel sorry for them.
 
Yikes.

Though I remember One Direction fans being similarly brutal on Twitter a few years ago, when that group was relevant. They once piled on to Gabby Agbonlahor, threatening to castrate and kill him, because he stuck a challenge on a member of 1D in a testimonial match.

I also remember watching some Channel 4 doc years ago about the online One Direction fandom, and how they seemed to operate like a hooligan firm. Ironically, fans of One Direction were furious about the documentary, and threatened to kill the people responsible. Pretty sure there was one tweet in particularly threatening to blow up Channel 4 HQ. Mental.

Pop music is vicious.
If that's not a sign of mental illness, I don't know what is. I genuinely feel sorry for them.
There’s an old Arab proverb that goes something like ‘youth is a type of insanity, of which the only cure is age’.
 
There’s an old Arab proverb that goes something like ‘youth is a type of insanity, of which the only cure is age’.

There's an element of truth in that proverb for sure, but you're assuming these people are young.

A girl I was at uni with that is my age (almost 40) became an obsessive kpop fan at 35. I'm not talking about just enjoying the music and listening to it all day. I'm talking spending hundreds of hours on Quora and Twitter talking, debating and arguing about kpop bands and their stars. What seems from my casual glance at her social feed, like most hours of the waking day outside of work. I worry about her that she's going the same way.

PS. I'm aware of the irony since we obsess about football on this forum. Extreme obsession is bad in every domain, though I don't think we're particularly in bad here. You see some people rage at each other at times, but nothing to the level of these kpop stans.
 
Being a teacher myself, every fibre of my body hurts reading that.

“Parents can opt out their child from any part of the curriculum and the teacher will have to provide a different lesson plan for that child” and “parental review”.

Lunatics

That is absolutely crazy. How many different lesson plans in how many different subjects is the teacher supposed to be providing?

Is there a limit to that or how many times a parent can review and ask for changes?
 
Another day, another almighty Twitter pile-on.



This nurse (well, mainly her husband) got an absolute ton of online abuse because she cleared the snow off her drive after working a shift in the hospital (which means he’s an abusive bully and their marriage is a sham, according to the righteous)



There's a fair amount of sexism in there too. Reverse the roles and there is no furore.
 
Shovelgate is an example of why you shouldn't put anything about your personal life on social media.
Honestly? I don't even understand why people do? Statuses and pictures in your (actual irl) friends groups sure.... but telling a bunch of strangers that you just cooked steak?
 
There's a fair amount of sexism in there too. Reverse the roles and there is no furore.

There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.
 
There's an element of truth in that proverb for sure, but you're assuming these people are young.

A girl I was at uni with that is my age (almost 40) became an obsessive kpop fan at 35. I'm not talking about just enjoying the music and listening to it all day. I'm talking spending hundreds of hours on Quora and Twitter talking, debating and arguing about kpop bands and their stars. What seems from my casual glance at her social feed, like most hours of the waking day outside of work. I worry about her that she's going the same way.

PS. I'm aware of the irony since we obsess about football on this forum. Extreme obsession is bad in every domain, though I don't think we're particularly in bad here. You see some people rage at each other at times, but nothing to the level of these kpop stans.

Is it unique to kpop? Or do you get the same level of insanity in other music genres?
 
Is it unique to kpop? Or do you get the same level of insanity in other music genres?

I've no idea tbh. You see people arguing about their favourite rappers etc. but I don't think there's that much vitriol and obsession as in kpop. I think the sexualisation and enamourment with their stars is a big thing. Their fans are usually like... "in love" with a band member. Infatuated and obsessive, more accurately, like teenagers tend to be. Then they become possessive and defensive and lash out over any perceived slight against their "love".

While I can comprehend that with teenagers (we've all been young and foolish), it completely beats me how middle-aged adults can behave like that though. It's like their mid-life crisis has them behaving like a teenager all over again. I just hope my middle-life crisis will be more straight forward, like buying a cabrio and snorting coke off a hookers tits. It's more respectable if you ask me.
 
There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.

Yeah, I've seen a bit of that, and often women are held to a higher standard by some who are supposedly all for equality. I suppose people aren't very aware of their own blind spots. I also saw a jacked-up gym bro calling him a beta. It's nice when left and right can come together like this.
 
Yeah, I've seen a bit of that, and often women are held to a higher standard by some who are supposedly all for equality. I suppose people aren't very aware of their own blind spots. I also saw a jacked-up gym bro calling him a beta. It's nice when left and right can come together like this.

United by their extreme cuntiness. Warms the cockles.
 
There’s often a paradoxically misogynistic vibe behind a lot of these pile-on by the self righteously left-wing. Yer man who did the Molly Mae podcast (who seems like a tool but whatever) made the reasonable point that he’s had loads of high profile male guests trot out almost identical right wing tropes to her, without any of the online bullying.

There is no left-wing theory or ideology to cause that, these people are just fecking idiots though. The Venn diagram of right v left has a huge stupidity overlap.

While there is definitely misogyny in all elements of society I think overall those with a left bent do more to address that. I have two good friends who work in two different centres to aid women and I have in the past socialised with them and they are to the last person are (self righteously on occasion) very left-wing.