Can you see Diogo Dalot stating a serious claim for the RB-position?

If people think AWB is not a good RB, just take a look at Dalot.
When you are a back up an have the chance to play you must take it and show you can fight for a place.

I just think he is to slow and soft to play as a rb.
 
united_99 said:
I really don‘t think he is even only marginally better than AWB offensively, the latter is actually better.
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Dalot is definitely more comfortable on the ball and the better passer of the two. Unsure who is the better crosser of the ball.
 
11101 said:
He's got a future here but we need to play him properly. In hindsight (and the coaches should have known this beforehand) exposing him 1v1 to a far faster player was asking for trouble. Where was Greenwood to back him up? What about McTominay? How many times did Danjuma get 1v1 with him with a free run at our goal once he was past him. That would not happen in a properly coached team.

Ultimately if a player is that much faster than you there's very little you can do about that, the team needs to be set up to stop it.
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Darmian was slow, nevertheless an experienced fullback. Now Dalot, a slow and inexperienced fullback, so what contribution can he make? I was only impressed with his crossing (from previous seasons), but if he can't manage a B grade winger, we might as well play Jones, at least he can header.
 
rron10 said:
If people think AWB is not a good RB, just take a look at Dalot.
When you are a back up an have the chance to play you must take it and show you can fight for a place.

I just think he is to slow and soft to play as a rb.
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I had a similar thought last night. Dalot's performance really makes you appreciate AWB's ability defensively.
 
cyril C said:
Darmian was slow, nevertheless an experienced fullback. Now Dalot, a slow and inexperienced fullback, so what contribution can he make? I was only impressed with his crossing (from previous seasons), but if he can't manage a B grade winger, we might as well play Jones, at least he can header.
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Darmian was shy on the ball. Whatever faults he may have, Dalot is not that. He's decent on the ball and will always try to get forward. It's the coaches' fault that when he does get forward his flank is left totally open.

We're not going to get a Cafu in the team who is content to play second fiddle to the never injured AWB. In a properly managed team you can carry one or two lesser quality players.
 
11101 said:
He's got a future here but we need to play him properly. In hindsight (and the coaches should have known this beforehand) exposing him 1v1 to a far faster player was asking for trouble. Where was Greenwood to back him up? What about McTominay? How many times did Danjuma get 1v1 with him with a free run at our goal once he was past him. That would not happen in a properly coached team.

Ultimately if a player is that much faster than you there's very little you can do about that, the team needs to be set up to stop it.
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His positioning is half the reason he gets in trouble.

He doesn't commit to showing them outside or inside. He waits until the attacker does what he wants to do.

If somebody is faster than you then usually you want to show him inside into the traffic, but Mctominay and Lindelof were not close enough and allowing him loads of room to cut inside.

Because of that he then had to over cover the inside which gave him plenty of room to blast down the outside.

The worst moment of all though was at the end where he allowed 1 of their players to just casually walk into the box and take a right footed shot (the one where DDG got injured) absolutely awful defending
 
11101 said:
He's got a future here but we need to play him properly. In hindsight (and the coaches should have known this beforehand) exposing him 1v1 to a far faster player was asking for trouble. Where was Greenwood to back him up? What about McTominay? How many times did Danjuma get 1v1 with him with a free run at our goal once he was past him. That would not happen in a properly coached team.

Ultimately if a player is that much faster than you there's very little you can do about that, the team needs to be set up to stop it.
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That's not only down to coaching though, there's a certain amount of in game management and common sense required. There are times like that where the players on the pitch need to do something to sort that kind of thing out, like pulling Greenwood back to help, which would be fine they were doing it in sustained attacks.

But, almost every time he got hit it was on the counter, Greenwood was up in attack, he can't stay back just to double up on a counter. They had 1 outball all evening and neither the players or those on the line did a thing about it, either to stop the ball at source or to help Dalot and stop him being caught 1v1.

He didn't help himself either with his terrible positioning and attempts to defend it. He just went rushing in very time and got beat too easily, not once did he try to stand him up. If he had any brains of defensive nous at all, after the first couple he would have started to show him inside. Where Varane or McT would have been on the cover to cut him off.
 
11101 said:
He's got a future here but we need to play him properly. In hindsight (and the coaches should have known this beforehand) exposing him 1v1 to a far faster player was asking for trouble. Where was Greenwood to back him up? What about McTominay? How many times did Danjuma get 1v1 with him with a free run at our goal once he was past him. That would not happen in a properly coached team.

Ultimately if a player is that much faster than you there's very little you can do about that, the team needs to be set up to stop it.
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You honestly think the coaching staff, the captain on the field or a senior defender like Varane or de Gea or even Dalot himself couldn't tell Greenwood something so basic as that he needs to track back and provide better defensive support?
 
villain said:
The underrating of AWB continues, the guy is a great RB and will look even better with Varane at CB and Sancho/Greenwood at RW.
Dalot is a decent option for rotation in cup games, he'd have to raise his game significantly to take the spot.
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Nothing has changed imo.
 
Useful going forward, played a glorious ball to Greenwood after about 2 mins

however defensively awful. The guy skinned him all day long. Obviously you’re not going to be quicker than everybody out there but give the guy a kick or gave something different other than losing a foot race every time

not a fullback for me. A right sided midfielder perhaps but he’s no AWB replacement
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
You honestly think the coaching staff, the captain on the field or a senior defender like Varane or de Gea or even Dalot himself couldn't tell Greenwood something so basic as that he needs to track back and provide better defensive support?
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Yeah, I thought Greenwood was very fortunate to not get hooked at HT for Jesse. Dalot was bad, but he got no support whatsoever from Greenwood, and it is therefore no surprise that Dalot had no intention to overlap him when he was being repeatedly exposed. Greenwood and Dalot had no synergy whatsoever, and as Dalot was our only bonafide RB in the squad, it was Greenwood who could have been shifted. I would want to see Jesse and Dalot start on that flank against Atalanta.

We ended up with Bruno tracking back on that side towards the end of the half, as he could see what was happening.
 
Completely over my head this one. Since his first day I haven’t seen one noticeable quality that makes him a decent right back. In fact, in 40 years watching United I can’t think of a worse option in that position over that time, and that’s not hyperbolic. Just don’t see it. Garbage.
 
Deery said:
A natural winger would get back and help the defence Greenwood does none of this it was glaringly obvious last night it’s because AWB is so good we never really realised before and Danjuma is being lined up as a Mane replacement he is quality.
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Being lined up? Sean Longstaff was lined up for Carrick replacement. Doesn't mean he is good.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
You honestly think the coaching staff, the captain on the field or a senior defender like Varane or de Gea or even Dalot himself couldn't tell Greenwood something so basic as that he needs to track back and provide better defensive support?
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You'd think that they would, wouldn't you? But as it kept happening over and over again you'd be wrong.

Getting done once or twice happens to everyone but when a player is getting done repeatedly, all game long, that's on the coaches. We know his strengths and weaknesses and it's not like he is purposely getting beaten every time. He needed some help but as usual our coaches sat there doing feck all with Carrick on his ipod and McKenna playing Minecraft or whatever he does staring at that ipad all game long.
 
Worse defensive performance in a long long time.

Was like he wasn't even there. Reminded me of 6 a side people just standing about no man land totally out position but it's 6 a side so no one cares. His head totally went
 
Absolute stinker last night but there weren't too many who played well.

Do worry about him defensively but he's still young and hasn't had many opportunities yet. Perhaps depending on the system he can do a job. Not like we have much other choice when AWB is injured/suspended!
 
Lash said:
This is just completely disingenuous. He is literally a good La Liga standard winger and there are reports of Liverpool scouting him as a future Mane replacement.

Dalot had a bad game, but Danjuma is in cracking form, had a great game - bar his finishing, and that was Dalot's first start in a while. Dalot will need to seriously improve to have a chance of making it here, but I'm not going to completely write him off after one game.
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Maybe over exaggeration but he isn't some special winger that we need to double up on him against Villareal, most CL teams will have decent wingers, if you want to compete for it, in these games you have to trust your RB to do his job.

I want to see him more just to see if he can improve because we saw glimses going forward he can give us something different.
 
romufc said:
Maybe over exaggeration but he isn't some special winger that we need to double up on him against Villareal, most CL teams will have decent wingers, if you want to compete for it, in these games you have to trust your RB to do his job.

I want to see him more just to see if he can improve because we saw glimses going forward he can give us something different.
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No, of course and I'm totally with you. He has to be able to do far better against his man if he wants to be in our side for these games.
 
One of the worst performances I’ve seen at OT in a long long time. I feel for him as he’s playing with 0% confidence and is just overthinking everything. I hope he can sort it out as he has the minerals to be a good back up RB. It’s a shame we’re out of the league cup as he could really do with the minutes.
 
The Corinthian said:
One of the worst performances I’ve seen at OT in a long long time. I feel for him as he’s playing with 0% confidence and is just overthinking everything. I hope he can sort it out as he has the minerals to be a good back up RB. It’s a shame we’re out of the league cup as he could really do with the minutes.
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Minerals?
 
He’s not as bad as a lot of you are making out.
Yes he had a mare last night but he was isolated in one on ones a lot, especially in the first half, against a good player in Danjuma.
As someone else pointed out we couldn’t get Sancho or Greenwood in similar situations at the other end.
A good night for AWB .
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
I thought this thread had just been created right now as a WUM :lol:

Tonight’s showing shows why AWB is our starting RB.

Jose really did do a number on us with this signing.
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Same. Just saw the thread now and thought this had been created after last nights game!

Feck me he’s awful. He’s just not even PL level for the lower level sides.

He will be targeted by any opposition we face and rightly so. He’s also absolutely zero competition for AWB.

Just play Bailly or Jones there instead of him.
 
11101 said:
You'd think that they would, wouldn't you? But as it kept happening over and over again you'd be wrong.

Getting done once or twice happens to everyone but when a player is getting done repeatedly, all game long, that's on the coaches. We know his strengths and weaknesses and it's not like he is purposely getting beaten every time. He needed some help but as usual our coaches sat there doing feck all with Carrick on his ipod and McKenna playing Minecraft or whatever he does staring at that ipad all game long.
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I reckon a much simpler explanation is that Greenwood was not up for it.
 
He's not a right back. Could be useful as a wing back in a 5
 
He was torn to pieces, some of his defending really was scandalous last night. Looked like a sunday league player at times.
 
Nah, probably the worst defender we have (at defending).
 
If we ever go the Antonio Conte route then yeah I could see him being useful.

In a back four it’s hard to do much worse.
 
Bilbo said:
He's not a right back. Could be useful as a wing back in a 5
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His attacking game is not good too, once in every few games he plays good cross, that's it. AWB for all his awkward looking technique, he is very good ball carrier and much better than Dalot in dribbling. Dalot is better passer of the ball. Dalot is high volume crosser and erratic, AWB doesn't cross much but when he does, it's usually good one.

Hopefully he steps up, its not easy to play well when they barely gets chance but players should at least show something on the pitch for manager and fans to trust the player.
 
I can't remember seeing a United player have such a stinker like Dalot had last night, a truly awful performance, Ole should have hooked him after 25 minutes.

Dalot gives me Pereira vibes, has a bit of flare and good on the actual ball but useless at everything else and no where close to being the standard of player we should aspire to have in the starting 11.

I really hope Milan wants him back and we can get a few quid for him, you can definitely understand why Ole wanted Trippier
 
Bilbo said:
He's not a right back. Could be useful as a wing back in a 5
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It's weird he's literally the opposite of what I expected him to be when Mourinho signed him and gave him the big buildup, I expected basically a centre back at fullback, an Ivanavic type I guess
 
Dalot was continually 15-20 yards away from his man, he needed to get tighter! Would have been the simplest thing for Ole to tell him to get closer to his man after the first or second time, nothing was said and it happened 6 or 7 times. Why does Ole never get out of his seat and why couldnt he see this?
 
People claim at least he's good going forward but he's not great at that either. Some of his crosses were awful.

I don't think the lad is going to make it here. I don't remember him ever having a good game.
 
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It's weird he's literally the opposite of what I expected him to be when Mourinho signed him and gave him the big buildup, I expected basically a centre back at fullback, an Ivanavic type I guess
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Yeah the hype was there, but ultimately we haven't really seen much to suggest that he belongs at this level.
 
Clubs wanted him this summer aswell. Hopefully that won't be hard to get the next window.
 
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