Can you see Diogo Dalot stating a serious claim for the RB-position?

He also does not work hard enough. He gave up tracking back at the end of West Ham loss. We have to have better in the reserves, don't we?

Tonight was just awful.
 
His performance was alarming. I heard he is third choice right back for portugal. No wonder
 
It was pretty terrible agreed. The only mitigating thing I'll give him is this:
How many times tonight was a Villareal fullback exposed to Greenwood or Sancho, one on one?

And how many times was Dalot exposed one on one to Danjuma?

Tactics and coaching matter.
I said this in Dalot thread. Any full back needs support from the midfield. He was always one on one with the winger and he isn't a great defender. The question should be where the feck was Scott and Paul ?

Replace Dalot with any fullback and the result is just the same. Poor Dalot is the scapegoat today . I do agree his performances aren't helping either but tonight is on midfielders.
 
He's always been a terrible defender, and I didn't even watch last night's game. The guy has no real defensive nous or ability to snuff out danger. He defends like a forward.
 
Dalot played at AC Milan better than Utd. A lot of mistakes.
But in UCL we don't have real right fullback.
 
I have said that he is not a defender. He’s a poor man’s right winger who is put on the defense. AWB is criminally underrated here. He gets the ball up excellently but not a great crosser.
 
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He was shit tonight but Greenwood didn’t help him either

Hallelujah! They targeted him from the get go and he got no help whatsoever. Telles was utter shite on the other side but he scored so that's his performance swept under the carpet here.
 
Never do i want to see him in our team again. Holy hell he is an awful footballer. AWB has actually looked good both at the back and up front this season. We need to let Dalot go, and also try and get Trippier. Telles is at least capable of defending, crossing, and apperantly even scoring. But he is 4 steps down from Shaw.. He should have also been sent off tonight. Really lucky that he didn't. Imagine going in like that, especially after our last CL game.. Jesus.
 
Ive never rated him and judging by yesterday I dont even have him at Premier League level.
 
I think Neville could come down from the commentary box and give a better shift.

Wasn't helped by no protection in front of him but his own positional sense was all over the place.
 
His performance was alarming. I heard he is third choice right back for portugal. No wonder
In fairness, he's got Cancelo and Pereira to compete with. It's like saying Aaron Wan Bissaka is England's 5th choice, yet there is always meltdown when he doesn't even get a call up!
 
His appearances are raising the transfer value of AWB and putting some respect on his name. If a defender can’t defend he shouldn’t be in the team.
 
People saying he was offered no protection but this is what you are going to expect at a big club against such teams.

So would you guys rather we played conservative football with Greenwood playing as a false RB?

When you play for Manutd, you should be good enough to deal with 1 v 1 defensively, you should not be getting beat by a championship standard winger. People on here acting as if Danjuma is Neymar.
 
I have never seen this guy defend well as of yet. I mean i don’t think I’ve ever seen him defend at all… but he’s got something going forward, though, I’m not sure it’s enough to play elsewhere on the pitch.
 
It was pretty terrible agreed. The only mitigating thing I'll give him is this:
How many times tonight was a Villareal fullback exposed to Greenwood or Sancho, one on one?

And how many times was Dalot exposed one on one to Danjuma?

Tactics and coaching matter.

I think Scott was the worst culprit and had one of the worst defensive games I've seen from him. The difference between Villarreal and us when it comes to this was sad to see. When Sancho was one-on-one with their fullback it only took a few seconds before three Villarreal players ran over to help him meaning Sancho had no space to dribble into. Then you see Scott just standing there every single time watching Dalot trying to defend Anjuma on his own.
 
People saying he was offered no protection but this is what you are going to expect at a big club against such teams.

So would you guys rather we played conservative football with Greenwood playing as a false RB?

When you play for Manutd, you should be good enough to deal with 1 v 1 defensively, you should not be getting beat by a championship standard winger. People on here acting as if Danjuma is Neymar.

All roads to Solskjaer when it comes to the blame game on this forum.

Nevermind Darmian, I'd honestly rather have Daniel James at right back.
 
People saying he was offered no protection but this is what you are going to expect at a big club against such teams.

So would you guys rather we played conservative football with Greenwood playing as a false RB?

When you play for Manutd, you should be good enough to deal with 1 v 1 defensively, you should not be getting beat by a championship standard winger. People on here acting as if Danjuma is Neymar.
A natural winger would get back and help the defence Greenwood does none of this it was glaringly obvious last night it’s because AWB is so good we never really realised before and Danjuma is being lined up as a Mane replacement he is quality.
 
You can get away with being a bad defender if you're excellent going forward, much like Alexander-Arnold. Unfortunately Dalot is bad defensively and only marginally better than Wan-Bissaka offensively.
 
It was pretty terrible agreed. The only mitigating thing I'll give him is this:
How many times tonight was a Villareal fullback exposed to Greenwood or Sancho, one on one?

And how many times was Dalot exposed one on one to Danjuma?

Tactics and coaching matter.
Completely agree. Dalot's best moment in the game came from being exposed 1v2. Villarreal should 100% have scored or at least fashioned a massive chance but Dalot did well.

The fact that Solskjaer and his staff watched Danjuma rinse Dalot about 6-7 times and craft chances they should have scored from and -did not react- by getting players around him to double up or help out was criminal, really. You can argue it might have unbalanced us or made our ineffective press even more ineffective, but what good is that if you look like you're going to ship goals every 3 minutes. We are maybe a bit too used to Wan Bissaka's absolutely world class 1v1 defending to appreciate how hard it is to do. Villarreal were never once exposed to Sancho the way we were in the first half, and Sancho had his full back on toast - the second he got past though, there were bodies around him instantly. We looked so slow to react at times.

And we had options too. We could have shunted a midfielder out to the right. We could have told Greenwood to play deeper and help out more. Instead we just watched and got lucky / pulled out the fire by de Gea

Edit: Dalot did have an awful game. To his credit he never gave up and he kept going forward and trying things. But he got absolutely destroyed all night and couldn't make a tackle to save his life.
 
I think the worst part was when Danjuma literally stopped, stood him up then skinned him with ease after destroying him about 6 times previously, poor Dalot.
 
Dalot is just not very good unfortunately... defensively or going forwards. Brandon Williams is a better player so I would almost be regretting that loan at this point.

I don't think Telles is too good either, although he can strike one hell of a ball. Our lack of quality full backs after Shaw and AWB is a real concern.
 
People saying he was offered no protection but this is what you are going to expect at a big club against such teams.

So would you guys rather we played conservative football with Greenwood playing as a false RB?

When you play for Manutd, you should be good enough to deal with 1 v 1 defensively, you should not be getting beat by a championship standard winger. People on here acting as if Danjuma is Neymar.
Agreed.

Playing as a defender for a top team is usually much more difficult and different than for a small team. You're expected to have basically no help, you're expected not only to defend well but attack well too. It's very demanding.

Dalot has a very nice touch, and that's about it. He may do better in a back 3 as a WB but with a back 4 he's simply not good enough for us, even as a backup. We should sell him asap. At this rate I'd rather play Bailly as CB and move Lindelof to the right in the next CL match.
 
You can get away with being a bad defender if you're excellent going forward, much like Alexander-Arnold. Unfortunately Dalot is bad defensively and only marginally better than Wan-Bissaka offensively.
I really don‘t think he is even only marginally better than AWB offensively, the latter is actually better.
 
Still don't understand why people think he's any good going forward.

He fecking isn't.

His crossing last night was atrocious.
 
People saying he was offered no protection but this is what you are going to expect at a big club against such teams.

So would you guys rather we played conservative football with Greenwood playing as a false RB?

When you play for Manutd, you should be good enough to deal with 1 v 1 defensively, you should not be getting beat by a championship standard winger. People on here acting as if Danjuma is Neymar.
This is just completely disingenuous. He is literally a good La Liga standard winger and there are reports of Liverpool scouting him as a future Mane replacement.

Dalot had a bad game, but Danjuma is in cracking form, had a great game - bar his finishing, and that was Dalot's first start in a while. Dalot will need to seriously improve to have a chance of making it here, but I'm not going to completely write him off after one game.
 
I am willing to give him another shot because he is coming in cold. But he was terrible yesterday.
 
He's got a future here but we need to play him properly. In hindsight (and the coaches should have known this beforehand) exposing him 1v1 to a far faster player was asking for trouble. Where was Greenwood to back him up? What about McTominay? How many times did Danjuma get 1v1 with him with a free run at our goal once he was past him. That would not happen in a properly coached team.

Ultimately if a player is that much faster than you there's very little you can do about that, the team needs to be set up to stop it.
 
I thought this thread had just been created right now as a WUM :lol:

Tonight’s showing shows why AWB is our starting RB.

Jose really did do a number on us with this signing.
Jose wants to sign him for Roma. We should let him asap
 
He was absolutely woeful, but should have 100% had some support after being done 2/3 times in the space of 5 mins. That's not playing conservative football, it's common sense to double up on a good player who has your defender's number, it happens all the time.