Callum McManaman

Infact I can't think of any youngsters that Fergie has let go under his own accord and thought "WTF, how did we let that guy go".

Fergie has a sound judgement of academy guys.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Infact I can't think of any youngsters that Fergie has let go under his own accord and thought "WTF, how did we let that guy go".

Fergie has a sound judgement of academy guys.
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You could say the same about most of the top clubs though. A player has to be pretty exceptional to make the grade at somewhere like United. I seriously doubt Fergie, or any other manager worth his salt, would let a young lad go too early if there was a sniff of a chance he could fulfil his potential - It could turn out that Callum McManaman is simply a young man who might be going through a purple patch at the minute. If he's still ripping the arse out of defenders at home & abroad in a couple of years time, then maybe he'll justify some of the hype that's been chucked his way over the past couple of months.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Infact I can't think of any youngsters that Fergie has let go under his own accord and thought "WTF, how did we let that guy go".

Fergie has a sound judgement of academy guys.
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One of the bigger talents he let go was Gillespie, who looked great in that Newcastle team in the mid 90's. Probably a comparable talent to McManaman.
 
One of the best performances in a Cup final that I can remember. He had City on toast all game. England call up is coming.
 
retardman5 said:
How long before he's sussed out though, & opposition managers start doubling up on him defensively ?
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He was more than doubled on at times yesterday. Hardly a problem leaving them with 8 men elsewhere though.

I have to admit I haven't seen that much of him and I love a British winger.
 
16 when released so I don't think it's a huge feck up by Moyes. A player can go either way and they obviously assessed everyone and thought he might not make it. He's obviously proven himself and probably grafted a lot to get there as we have had a few promising youngsters on our books and wouldn't let someone go unless we were sure.

Didn't Hummels get released by Bayern? Reus released by Dortmund? These things happen. I'm sure there are a few who have been released by United that have gone on to be good players or at least enough to have came back as a squad player.

He looks a good player but I'd wait a bit before the final judgement. Everyone thought McClean at Sunderland was the next big thing but he's been awful this year.
 
Steven Seagull said:
He's quick and loves to run at defenders which makes him very dangerous and a nightmare to play against. He's fecking brainless though. Constantly overdoing it which is something you expect of an U18 player. He's 22 I think.
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You summed him up very nicely. Reminds me a bit of his namesake Steve McManaman - at 30 he was still doing things you expect from a 22 year old.

Back to Callum, imo he s nowhere near the level you d expect from a United player.
 
You would think yesterday was the first-time he played well. He's been very good since New Years. He would have had to do far less to get an England call-up if his Wigan shirt was a United one.
 
711 said:
Gillespie went because he couldn't control his personal life, his football wasn't in doubt.
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He was a good player, but he wasn't as good as Beckham, that's why he was allowed to leave.
 
711 said:
I presume you mean Kanchelskis, but there was a bit more to it than that. Allegedly gambling debts three times his salary, and disciplinary problems that Fergie decided he could do without.
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Nope, I mean Beckham, Kanchelskis was only at United for another few months when we let Gillespie go, Gillespie went in January 95, Kanchelskis in the summer, Kanchelskis also had problems with his personal life, and they were well known by Fergie when he let Gillespie go. Beckham was always going to win the battle with Gillespie, it wasn't even close when it came to talent.
 
McManaman was terrific yesterday, really turned Clichy inside out.

He'll be hot property if Wigan go down.
 
Levy will sell Bale and use the money to buy McManaman then go into the season with Lennon, McManaman and Andros Townsend.
 
Thick Numpty said:
He was never good enough to play regularly for United either.
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Exactly.

I just watched this special with Eric Harrison and SAF talking about the class of '92. SAF said he always makes the same three promises to the parents of the kids he signs.

1. They'll get a great football education whilst at the club.
2. If they are good enough, they will play.
3. If they aren't good enough for the first team they'll get a contract with another club.

Gillespie fits nr. 3. Wasn't good enough. Giggs and Sharpe were better.
 
I don't get the hype. He had acres of space on the right and Clichy was absolutely torrid. He's a decent player in the Valencia kick-and-run merchant mould but I think Valencia is way more effective.
 
thepolice123 said:
I don't get the hype. He had acres of space on the right and Clichy was absolutely torrid. He's a decent player in the Valencia kick-and-run merchant mould but I think Valencia is way more effective.
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If there was some kind of footballing Newtonian measure for the combination of effective speed and power, then Valencia would probably the finest example of that measure in the world. Tony may be one dimensional in technical terms but he is an truly exceptional athlete in a world of exceptional athletes.

I think that is something that needs to be considered when people start comparing other technically limited players to him.
 
Very premature praise in here, he's only been playing half a season, and only playing particularly well for a small fraction of that. It's like McClean for Sunderland last year who had half a good season and got way over praised, he's been nowhere near as good this season now that teams have sussed him out.
 
thepolice123 said:
I don't get the hype. He had acres of space on the right and Clichy was absolutely torrid. He's a decent player in the Valencia kick-and-run merchant mould but I think Valencia is way more effective.
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Far more skilful than Valencia, who basically isn't very skilful at all. He can actually dribble, not to mention use his left-foot. He isn't as developed as Valencia at his best of course, but in terms of facets to his game, he has more than Valencia in an attacking sense I'd say. He is fast and can 'kick and run', but can also twist and turn with close control and is a goal threat. Far more of a modern winger than Antonio basically, who is very traditional.
 
thepolice123 said:
I don't get the hype. He had acres of space on the right and Clichy was absolutely torrid. He's a decent player in the Valencia kick-and-run merchant mould but I think Valencia is way more effective.
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I agree it is all a bit premature but he has been nothing like a kick and run player...nothing like it at all.

He seems to have very good feet, dribbling ability and control.
 
If we ever sign him can we have a clause in his contract that he never speaks on tv, that accent makes me want to kill
 
Donaldo said:
I have. By Jerome Thomas. Chris Eagles. Cristiano Ronaldo. Nani.

I could go on.
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Valencia too.

I've seen Clichy get bummed by right wingers countless time.
 
Seems a bit unfair if there are/were other players available that played well in games leading up to this. But I suppose if those players are at the level of Henri Lansbury (why does he even get in the squad? Experience or not he will never be good enough for the England squad).
 
Carl said:
Indeed. Definitely a promising player but personally I don't think he'll go on to be an elite player.
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It's hard to say at this point, I think he has some great attributes, the next 2 years require dedication on his part because it wont be like the FA Cup final every weekend, he'll have a bad patch and how he reacts to that will be key.
 
The only thing about the U21 squads is that they're always changing to some extent due to players ageing and also moving up to the seniors. The squad isn't as fixed as a senior squad, so it's not really like he's taking another player's spot, as such.
 
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