I used to spend a lot on my builds, but I never used to actually play the games. I just played the games until I optimized them to maintain the highest possible frame rate.Do you guys with your 5000€ builds then actually play video games?
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What's the price difference between a 4070 and an AMD card? You probably get better cost per performance from team red.
Sadly kind of feels like that! My monitor is actually 4k but obv i can't game at that.
Just crazy that it'll have been 5 years since I got a gpu and around $500 can't buy agreat upgrade!
Do you guys with your 5000€ builds then actually play video games?
Mine isn't quite at that price point, although I've got a pretty powerful system, and I use it for gaming plenty. It's easy to get bitten by the "must always upgrade" bug but as long as you're getting a good FPS in the games you're playing it can be ignored.
What resolution are you planning to play at? And what kinda games? You'll have a bit of a bottleneck with your CPU not keeping up with the 4070, but would still see an improvement. The 4070 generally seems like a bit of a meh card though, it's basically a 3080 with DLSS 3.
If you're looking at an upgrade, post your system specs, resolution, games you're playing or want to play and maybe what your current performance is like, and we can see where your money would be well spent (if anywhere).
Bad time to upgrade. The 4070 isn’t selling at £589 so it’ll be coming down in price soon, especially with an AMD competitor on the way. Waiting for a 7800XT and some price drops elsewhere is wise at this point
That's very kind, I'll take advice anytime!
Ryzen 7 3800X, 4200 Mhz / 32GB RAM / New SSD / Gigabyte 2070
Acer Predator 28" monitor
Games: looking forward to new Jedi, D4 and (sooooon) Starfield.
Sorry mate I meant to reply to this and completely forgot I had to actually press the button.
Your monitor is 2160p right? How does it look at 1440p? The problem you've got is that if you want to be at playing at 4k with a decent framerate, you'll need a much beefier card than the 4070, while if you're aiming for lower resolutions, then you'll bottleneck the 4070 with your current CPU (which will happen if you go for a beefier card at 2160p too). So I'd be looking at a CPU upgrade personally, you could upgrade with the same socket and then be set for a more powerful GPU.
Either way, if you're looking for a decent card at 4k, the 4070 isn't going to cut it (but it's lightyears better than the 2070).
A 4070 is absolutely enough for 4k / 60 FPS, unless you're talking Cyberpunk with its new pathtracing mode. With the abundance of modern upscaling methods like DLSS2/3, FSR2, Xess, games will be rendered at lower resolutions internally anyway. I'm running 4k with a 6700XT, which is perfectly ok if you accept 'high' instead of 'ultra' quality settings.
The 4070 isn't built for longevity though. The 12 GB VRAM are just enough for today's games at high resolutions, in a few years it will have issues related to vram size, like its predecessors do now (the 8gb 3070 and also 10gb 3080).
There's already games which would be severely limited by the 3800X though, Jedi Survivor being the most recent and worst example. CPU limits below 60 FPS are a reality for most CPUs out there with dips in the region of 20-30.
The 4070 isn't built for longevity though. The 12 GB VRAM are just enough for today's games at high resolutions, in a few years it will have issues related to vram size, like its predecessors do now (the 8gb 3070 and also 10gb 3080).
There's already games which would be severely limited by the 3800X though, Jedi Survivor being the most recent and worst example. CPU limits below 60 FPS are a reality for most CPUs out there with dips in the region of 20-30.
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What do you guys think of this spec and rough value for it?
Full spec is:
Fractal Define 7 compact
5x Noctua NF-A12 chromax fans
ASUS Z790 apex
Intel 13900KS
Noctua chromax U12A
Corsair vengeance 32GB DDR5 7200mhz c34
3 x 2tb Samsung 990 pro NVMe drives
MSI suprim X 4090
Corsair AX1600i
Corsair braided cables with graphic card 600w cable
Full spec is:
Fractal Define 7 compact
5x Noctua NF-A12 chromax fans
ASUS Z790 apex
Intel 13900KS
Noctua chromax U12A
Corsair vengeance 32GB DDR5 7200mhz c34
3 x 2tb Samsung 990 pro NVMe drives
MSI suprim X 4090
Corsair AX1600i
Corsair braided cables with graphic card 600w cable
13900KS is a waste of money over the standard K. Apart from that it's the best of the best and would obviously cost a shitload of money
I impulse purchased a gaming PC yesterday off Facebook Marketplace.
Have always been put off by the level of customisation both in purchase and optimising a game. I get choice paralysis and aren't sure where to compromise and what to pick. I never went for a pre build because I'd heard too many negative stories of compromises that can't be undone later. Unsure how much to spend because too little seems pointless but too much is a risk for something I may never play once novelty wears off.
Probably true of this purchase but it seemed relatively cheap for what I was getting and hoped I could break even selling for parts later if I didn't end up using it much. The only diligence I did was putting the processor and graphics card into pcbenchmarks to see what score it got.
Processor - AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
Motherboard - Rog Crosshair VIII Hero
Graphic Card - AMD Radeon 6800 XT Nitro OC Edition
Memory - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB
CPU Cooler - Corsair H115i Platinum
Storage - WD 500 GB for windows and for games a Seagate Firecuda 1TB
Monitor - LG 27" Ultra Gear Gaming Monitor
Any tips on PC only games to be trying, and general advice for someone new to PC gaming?
Have always been put off by the level of customisation both in purchase and optimising a game. I get choice paralysis and aren't sure where to compromise and what to pick. I never went for a pre build because I'd heard too many negative stories of compromises that can't be undone later. Unsure how much to spend because too little seems pointless but too much is a risk for something I may never play once novelty wears off.
Probably true of this purchase but it seemed relatively cheap for what I was getting and hoped I could break even selling for parts later if I didn't end up using it much. The only diligence I did was putting the processor and graphics card into pcbenchmarks to see what score it got.
Processor - AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
Motherboard - Rog Crosshair VIII Hero
Graphic Card - AMD Radeon 6800 XT Nitro OC Edition
Memory - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB
CPU Cooler - Corsair H115i Platinum
Storage - WD 500 GB for windows and for games a Seagate Firecuda 1TB
Monitor - LG 27" Ultra Gear Gaming Monitor
Any tips on PC only games to be trying, and general advice for someone new to PC gaming?
Not a bad setup.
If you want to tax the system a bit try something like Cyberpunk. Or max out a recent Call of Duty game for instance.
Nice, you can get rid of the Xbox now.
Play all semi recent Total War games. If you want to see what your pc can do play Total War: warhammer 3 on ultra with max unit size.
This will last you about a decade.
This will last you about a decade.
Not an intense game as such, but I bought frostpunk off cdkeys the other day.
I am addicted to it and it’s actually really difficult. The amount of retries you have to do to ‘get it right’ is frustrating and somewhat appealing
I am addicted to it and it’s actually really difficult. The amount of retries you have to do to ‘get it right’ is frustrating and somewhat appealing
Turns out buying any i9 from the 13th and 14th was a complete waste of money.
It's a good set up as it has a good gpu and I would only try to get a larger SSD drive and potentially upgrade the CPU to an Ryzen 7 5800X 3D
What an unmitigated shit show for Intel (and of course many, many customers)
Looking for recommendations a low-profile graphics card in the price range up to £150 to improve running basic games over the on-board graphics in my home office PC.
I play a lot of rogue-lites and I would love to be able to run Risk of Rain 2 for example.
I play a lot of rogue-lites and I would love to be able to run Risk of Rain 2 for example.
Nah I'm using my xbox horizontally as a stand for my monitor. Couldn't do that with the white ufo shitshow could you.
What're general tips for settings etc then? I can't be arsed tinkering with settings, but don't know whether to trust the presets. Then have popups from both amd and asus over the top of games suggesting fsr, anti-lag etc.
Also had loads of issues with the ssd. At first it was showing but games installed on it wouldn't play, and the one time I got something to load it had no HUD and would crash at the settings screen. Then the ssd disappears from disk management.
Is it being noisy as feck something I just have to get use to? Temp and fan speed etc all showing fine on the amd tool. Im going to try to dust the fans etc but it looks pretty clean. Yet it's loud as feck compared to the new consoles even if no games are running. I'd heard gaming laptops had made a lot of progress lately being able to run intense graphics without crazy noise or heat so I hoped a big PC tower would be the same.
Its in a huge Corsair dual chamber from overclockers so I thought it'd be quiet at the least. Fattest feck I've seen outside myself in the mirror. What's the point in being so big it won't fit into any normal sized desk if it's loud as feck anyway.
Also had loads of issues with the ssd. At first it was showing but games installed on it wouldn't play, and the one time I got something to load it had no HUD and would crash at the settings screen. Then the ssd disappears from disk management.
Is it being noisy as feck something I just have to get use to? Temp and fan speed etc all showing fine on the amd tool. Im going to try to dust the fans etc but it looks pretty clean. Yet it's loud as feck compared to the new consoles even if no games are running. I'd heard gaming laptops had made a lot of progress lately being able to run intense graphics without crazy noise or heat so I hoped a big PC tower would be the same.
Its in a huge Corsair dual chamber from overclockers so I thought it'd be quiet at the least. Fattest feck I've seen outside myself in the mirror. What's the point in being so big it won't fit into any normal sized desk if it's loud as feck anyway.
Loved Frostpunk. The sequel is out soon too.
It's killing me. Each time I do that bit better, and get to a point where I think I'm winning and then some bullshit comes in and takes it all away
This time it was the random groups turning up, and I cant just send them away!
It's killing me. Each time I do that bit better, and get to a point where I think I'm winning and then some bullshit comes in and takes it all away
This time it was the random groups turning up, and I cant just send them away!
Yeah it's certainly challenging. You need to be planning ahead at all times so it's pretty much impossible until you've run through it a few times and know what to expect.
Have you done some debugging as to where the noise is coming from? If you set the fans to idle for example, does it go? If so, can enable the fans individually to see which one(s) are loud?
I'd start by downloading HWinfo64. This gives easy access to all temps and usage.. I drag cpu/gpu/MB temp onto the taskbar so you can always see what they're running at. It's also good for fault finding.
fecking hell go back to consoles noob
Forgot to update this thread with my latest rig, a decent jump from my previous one:
The only thing I can see myself changing anytime soon is if I find a great deal on a 14700K as it'll be a straight swap, other than that I'm set for a while.
| CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K |
| CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i ELITE LCD |
| Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS |
| Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB 64GB (4 x 16 GB) |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB (x 3 for 6 TB) |
| Video Card | Gigabyte AORUS MASTER RTX 4080 SUPER |
| Case | Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case |
| Power Supply | Corsair RM1200x SHIFT |
The only thing I can see myself changing anytime soon is if I find a great deal on a 14700K as it'll be a straight swap, other than that I'm set for a while.
Bumping this thread as I’m thinking about taking the plunge back into PC, but does anyone have any advice for me for buying one starting out, going through online is basically overloading me with information and I have no idea what’s the standard you need to play games such as Warzone at a good fps?
Any help from anyone who knows would be appreciated.
Any help from anyone who knows would be appreciated.
You need to decide your budget before anything else, then you need to decide what resolution you're aiming for, 1440p is generally the sweetspot for PC gaming, but budget depending, you could either need to go 1080p or push 4k.
Recently upgraded my rig to
CPU - i9 14900k
GPU - Asus RX 7800 XT
MoBo - ROG Strix Z790-E
RAM - 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000mhz
PSU - Corsair RM850x
Case - Corsair 4000D
Storage - 500GB m.2 (main drive) 1TB m.2 (backup + storage)
Also recently upgraded to a dual-monitor setup for the first time ever and I love it. I have 2x 31.5" curved 1440p 165hz monitors.
Love having a rig that can handle pretty much everything I can throw at it. Didn't see the point of going for more than the 7800XT right now as I don't intend to do anything in 4K anytime soon. Might be the next move in a few years maybe but I think I'd just prefer to go 1440p OLED instead of 4K.
CPU - i9 14900k
GPU - Asus RX 7800 XT
MoBo - ROG Strix Z790-E
RAM - 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000mhz
PSU - Corsair RM850x
Case - Corsair 4000D
Storage - 500GB m.2 (main drive) 1TB m.2 (backup + storage)
Also recently upgraded to a dual-monitor setup for the first time ever and I love it. I have 2x 31.5" curved 1440p 165hz monitors.
Love having a rig that can handle pretty much everything I can throw at it. Didn't see the point of going for more than the 7800XT right now as I don't intend to do anything in 4K anytime soon. Might be the next move in a few years maybe but I think I'd just prefer to go 1440p OLED instead of 4K.
Well between 1-3k ideally which is why I’m confused on choice, not sure if spending the extra is worth it for minimal gain if that makes sense.
Depends on what you mean by minimal gains.
If you play online games a lot like Warzone then a really good PC will get you 200+ FPS at 1440p, for example, which combined with a high refresh monitor gives you advantages in FPS games you simply don't get on console.
If you are primarily getting it to play single player games then refresh rate doesn't matter as much but you could then still easily spend 2k+ to go 4k.
Anyway you sound like you've no idea what you want so I'm not sure how we can all help you
the reason you're seeing so many mixed things online is because PC gaming is so versatile depending on what you're after, you really should try figure that out first. What games do you like? What's your ideal budget? How long do you need this to last before building again? Do you care more about resolution or FPS? etc.The simplest answer I could give you is spend between 1,500 > 2,000 (pounds I assume?) on a solid high end PC with a high-refresh 1440p monitor and that'll cover most bases for you. In most cases it's not worth going 4k because costs then increase exponentially in order to try maximize performance.
Depends on what you mean by minimal gains.
If you play online games a lot like Warzone then a really good PC will get you 200+ FPS at 1440p, for example, which combined with a high refresh monitor gives you advantages in FPS games you simply don't get on console.
If you are primarily getting it to play single player games then refresh rate doesn't matter as much but you could then still easily spend 2k+ to go 4k.
Anyway you sound like you've no idea what you want so I'm not sure how we can all help you
The simplest answer I could give you is spend between 1,500 > 2,000 (pounds I assume?) on a solid high end PC with a high-refresh 1440p monitor and that'll cover most bases for you. In most cases it's not worth going 4k because costs then increase exponentially in order to try maximize performance.
Well I primarily play warzone etc a lot which is what I’m looking for mainly, just when I’m looking there are a million processors, graphics card etc which go from moderately costly to potentially hundreds more.
I only just started looking, which is when I thought of this thread.
So the first paragraph is essentially what it will primarily be for, so I guess I was thinking what’s the essential thing when building it I need to play it at decent fps etc.
I appreciate it’s not very concise, which isn’t helpful but I want to be able to play online games at a decent level and have no idea what the parts will achieve this, thanks for your advice so far.
With FPS games you should also factor in a good monitor (1ms response time, and minimum 144hz refresh rate), though there's plenty at the 1440p range to be found at good prices.
As for the core components, I'd personally look at the AMD cpus, something like a 7800x3d would be fantastic for gaming. For RAM go for 32/64gb ram, ideally with memory speed of 5k mhz+, and it goes without saying that you should go with an entirely SSD setup too, perhaps nvme.
Once you've factored all of that in, see how much leeway you have for a GPU. Bare in mind the 50xx range of cards have been seemingly announced for 2025, so that might drop the price of the current lineup of nvidia cards if you can stomach waiting. The other thing to take into account is if you're at all interested in playing around with AI tools locally, if so you're pretty much bound to nVidia.
you can't really go wrong with pcpartpicker, finding something highly rated within your budget and then tweaking from there, this for example: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/ZpkcCJ/enthusiast-amd-gamingstreaming-build
Leaves you 500-600 to get a really good 1440p monitor to go with it.
Unless you're splurging on peripherals like an OLED monitor - you can easily get a future proof PC for around $1500 imho. Id argue CPUs in particular are probably more insignificant for gaming now than they ever have been. I still use a 11 series Intel I-5 but with a RX 6800 XT, beefy PSU and 32 of DDR4 (so not 5) ram. It still flies through everything easily at max settings, even the new FS2024 alpha.
It’s not just to play warzone, just what I’m mainly playing online wise at the moment.
Cool, really appreciate the help!
Yes, you can start from those guides they're usually good builds for a given budget.
For a lot of people the only major choices would be to decide which cpu brand you want, Intel or AMD, and for a graphics card within your budget and then figure the rest around that.