Massive Spanner
The Football Wrench
Man I wish I was in a position where I could consider a 2080ti outdated..
That's why I always get TI. They always last longer than "expected" because of overclocking etc.Man I wish I was in a position where I could consider a 2080ti outdated..
I just bought a 2060 a couple of weeks ago. Younger me would have felt a bit put out after seeing some of the builds in here but right now I'm as happy as a Cina's mum in shit.Man I wish I was in a position where I could consider a 2080ti outdated..
I got a 2060 super three years ago before everything went crazy and that mother fecker is still killing it at 1440p. Beast of a card.I just bought a 2060 a couple of weeks ago. Younger me would have felt a bit put out after seeing some of the builds in here but right now I'm as happy as a Cina's mum in shit.
That’s a really nice build.
Im a sports and entertainment CEO. At the time of the build it was about $7k. The GPU alone was $2700. The motherboard was $1300. The 64Gb of DDR5 was exorbitant. The CPU was about $950 if I remember rightly. That’s $6k+ right there. The psu was about $500, the liquid cooler was $400ish. Then all the high capacity SSDs and the case. Yeah $7k+. More like 8. Can’t say I’m mad. I’ve been doing a whole bunch of AI consulting this last year so the GPU has been really helpful.
You definitely paid a premium for some of those parts, but I imagine it was during the chip shortage and crypto mining explosion of the previous couple of years?
Still, if I could fund one via a company I'd do exactly the same thing.
Are you overclocking the GPU? I'm curious why you went for the FE rather than a ROG or another factory OC?
So, the motherboard I didn't overpay for. It's an ASUS ROG Maximus Extreme Z690, it's still listed at the same price ($1089 before tax), but the GPU I definitely did. I looked for many different versions of the card, and in the end the best deal I could find was the Founder's Edition. I had been looking for the ROG version, but the best price I could find was about $3,500. In the end the Founder's edition already massively exceeded the capabilities I needed anyway, so I saved the $800 and went for that. The DDR5 RAM is still running at about $85o-900 for the 64gb, especially for the Corsair Dominator Platinum series. I paid a huge premium on the GPU, double the price in fact, but I had a short window to take advantage of it, so I wasn't too bothered. If it had been my own money, I would have waited. The 12900KF, which I have, I believe I paid about $900 for, but can be got now for more like $500. And yes, this was all during the peak of the chip shortage.
I also looked up the PSU, which is a Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 Titanium 1500W. It is completely silent, very efficient, and rated about the best PSU you can get. And it better be, it was $600 with tax.
I am not currently overclocking the GPU, only done some minor CPU overclocking. I haven't really unlocked the full potential of this system yet, but I have been prioritizing stability and durability more than anything, because the base clocks and cores on everything are already so powerful, that I don't feel the need really for any overclock.
I had been using ASUS's AI overclocking suite, which had been running the 12900K at 5.5ghz on the 8 performance cores. The remaining 8 productivity cores running slower. But I was having significant system instability issues. The AI just wasn't smart enough to not overdo the voltage and I was BSODing under consistent stress. Since then I have deactivated the AI OC suite, and been running at the base turbo of 5.2ghz, and have started experimenting with manual settings to find the sweet spot for me. I can easily do 5.3 without any worries. The ROG Ryujin 360 II keeps the core incredibly cool, and the cooler master case is very spacious and has amazing venting from a completely sealed environment. I am now going to push it to 5.4ghz and see if I keep it there.
Some of those costs make my eyes water, but then mine is almost entirely for gaming - if it's improving your productivity and earning the money back, then it's fairly easy to justify. I'm very jealous though!
How do you find other temperatures? Particularly when the GPU is under load?
Going to AM5 seems not very lucrative at the moment with the mainboard and DDR5 prices, so I'd like to upgrade the CPU on the AM4 platform. The Ryzen 5 5600 is dirt cheap (110€) in Germany currently, so I'm torn between this one as a budget option and the 5800x3d as the best in class (~350€). Any suggestions or recommendations?
Fantastic, thank you!I went 5800x3D and it's fantastic and only getting cheaper.
Fantastic, thank you!
I read that it runs pretty hot, have you encountered that as well?
I haven't updated my pc in many years and currently sitting with i5-4690K processor, 16GB RAM and a GTX 980.
I have started saving for what will be the best possible PC I can afford in around 18 months time - aiming for a budget of £3000-3500 so I should be seeing one hell of a performance improvement! What I'm aiming for is the ability to play games in 4K at an acceptable frame rate. It should be like moving from my old Spectrum +2 to an Amiga.
I assume "acceptable" means 60 as a minimum? Luckily solid frame rates in 4k are feasible now with beefy cards like the 4090, hopefully they won't be quite so hideously expensive by the time you come to get them.
You could save a ton of money (and upgrade much sooner) if you were after 1440p instead, could grab a 3080 (£750), an i5-12400f (£190) with a B660 mobo (~£150), 32gb of DDR4 RAM (~£180), a decent 850w PSU (~£100), and whatever case you like, and the difference would still be absolutely huge! There's room for improvement if you wanted, but that would get you an excellent future proof rig for 2k gaming.
Yeah I'm aiming for a 4090 - I get what you are saying but the way I see it is I'd rather save and spend top dollar for the best I can possibly get to future proof myself for the next 6-8 years as a minimum. I don't upgrade often (obviously) but when I do I try to go all out so I'd rather wait and do that than get a good but not amazing upgrade sooner.
I've always built it myself previously however this time I'm more likely to buy the best pre-built I can find.Yeah I get that, and if you want something that runs 4k well then you'd need a 4090, I just find that any monitor big enough to make 4k worthwhile gives me a headache, at least sitting within PC range.
Is the plan to put it together yourself? Or just buy the best prebuilt you can find within the budget?
I just spent an obscene amount of cash on a new PC build. I haven't upgraded in 9 years so I am certainly due a new one and I've tried to ensure this is about a future proof as I can get right now for 4K gaming.
Graphics Card 1: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X
Model Of Processor: Intel Core i7-13700K 5.4GHz 16 Core
Intel Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 Motherboard (DDR5)
DDR5 Memory / RAM: Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 5600MHz (2x 32GB)
Solid State Drive M.2: 4TB M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 SSD ( 3500MB/R & 3000MB/W )
Solid State Drive: 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 SSD ( 3500MB/R & 3000MB/W )
Power Supply: 1200W - 1600W: Corsair HX1200 1200W 80+ Platinum Modular
High Performance Cooler: Corsair 240mm H100X Liquid Cooler (250W TDP)
Will take a week or two to get built depending on the availability of the 4090 but I can't wait although my wife may divorce me. Oh and I can't yet afford a 4k monitor so Ill need to wait a few months for that!
It's disgusting isn't it. Yeah I'm hoping this will serve me well for the guts of the next decade.What a freaking beast. Will serve you well for the next 10 years for sure.
Will take a week or two to get built depending on the availability of the 4090 but I can't wait although my wife may divorce me. Oh and I can't yet afford a 4k monitor so Ill need to wait a few months for that!
It's disgusting isn't it. Yeah I'm hoping this will serve me well for the guts of the next decade.
Will take a week or two to get built depending on the availability of the 4090 but I can't wait although my wife may divorce me. Oh and I can't yet afford a 4k monitor so Ill need to wait a few months for that!
I do! But I'll make do with what I have until I can afford a good one.Well, thats a good thing isn't it? Who wants a 4k monitor?
I do! But I'll make do with what I have until I can afford a good one.
You’ve basically just bought a Ferrari with no engine.I do! But I'll make do with what I have until I can afford a good one.
You’ve basically just bought a Ferrari with no engine.
I'll be spending around £500 on a monitor - probably something like this: GIGABYTE M28U 28" 144Hz Gaming Monitor, 3840 x 2160 SS IPS Display, 2ms (MPRT) Response Time, 94% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro, 1x Display Port 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1 (amazon.com) - although I may go for a 30 inch or a 32. Depends on how much money I can scrape together over the next few months - I like this one as well though it's expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Comp...x=philips+momentum+monito,aps,223&sr=8-1&th=1What games do you usually play?
And how much are you wanting to throw at a monitor?
I'll be spending around £500 on a monitor - probably something like this: GIGABYTE M28U 28" 144Hz Gaming Monitor, 3840 x 2160 SS IPS Display, 2ms (MPRT) Response Time, 94% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro, 1x Display Port 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1 (amazon.com) - although I may go for a 30 inch or a 32. Depends on how much money I can scrape together over the next few months - I like this one as well though it's expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Computer-Monitors-279M1RV-Height-Adjustable/dp/B09ZMCV9YF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1LPYL9T90QO1Z&keywords=philips+momentum+monitor&qid=1678994311&sprefix=philips+momentum+monito,aps,223&sr=8-1&th=1
Right now I play a lot of Warhammer TW 3 but what I hope to play this year is Diablo, Baldur's Gate and also be finally able to play Cyberpunk.
Oh nice thanks - may be worth waiting an extra month or so to get one of those beauties.If you're willing to spend around the money of the philips, then I'd deffo have a look at:
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/ali...dwf/apd/210-bfrq/monitors-monitor-accessories
or when it finally hits the market
https://rog.asus.com/uk/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift-oled-pg27aqdm/
Oh nice thanks - may be worth waiting an extra month or so to get one of those beauties.
valid point, it may be the same thing as with guitar payers or photographers... there are those who can talk hours about every technical detail of every piece of equipment that ever existed, and there are those who just make beautiful music/picturesDo you guys with your 5000€ builds then actually play video games?
Depends on what resolution and framerate your monitor supports. It will not be a long-term solution for 1440p gaming and will not handle most games at 4k so you better stay away.Q for the PC tech folk: currently have a 2070, can just about afford a 4070. Ryzen 7 3800 build.
Would you do it? The perks I can see are: the card will deffo fit in my box, and it doesn't need a new PSU. Downside...$600!?!?