Nothing on Crysis 3? There’s rumours it can consistently hold above 24fpsI'm going to keep an eye out on the 5080, but the performance claims are mainly in the AI / Frame generation rather than raw performance from the slides. I think it's probably worth seeing some deeper dives first before deciding whether they're worth it. If going from a 2XXX or lower they definitely will be though.
Edit - the raw performance increase is shown by Far Cry 6, the rest are through AI etc.
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I never cared for what the company making the product says about it in their presentation event, I'll wait to see how this new generation of cards does in independent reviews. I could do with replacing my 3080 for a card with more VRAM, running into the limit on a number of games now, but I'll wait and see what fits me best. Of course that will also depend on actual prices and availability when the cards actually hit the market - I got lucky and got my 9800x3D right at release and did not have to bother with scalpers, I don't necessarily expect to get as lucky with the GPU.
Might even wait to see how AMD responds. A card in the region between the 5080 and 5070, but with 24GB VRAM, might well be more interesting than the Nvidia equivalent.
Might even wait to see how AMD responds. A card in the region between the 5080 and 5070, but with 24GB VRAM, might well be more interesting than the Nvidia equivalent.
I agree, I'm certainly not saying these prices are anything approaching a bargain. The market has been completely reset in pricing - unfortunately I don't see things ever coming back down.
I honestly buy the theory that Nvidia allowed some early leaks with even higher prices to make these sound more palatable. What I'm expressing is that I 100% expected Nvidia to be as extortionate as possible and I'm pleasantly surprised that didn't happen (this time).
Did you buy from Scan by any chance? Mine was due today as well but wouldn't have been at home to collect it. If you don't get the 5080, do you have any other GPU of interest?
Yeah mate spot on ordered about a month ago and have bought most of my build soo far from them been hassle free.In regards to the gpu 5080 looks best value for me atm but could stretch for the 5090 if possible,would like a white version which would limit my options to a couple brands I think would but happy to get what I can regardless of colour.
Yea same for me. Got all the parts from them.
Fractal Torrent Design.
MSI MPG Carbon Wifi X670E
2 x 32gb CL 30 Corsair ram
2tb Samsung 990 pro nvme
9800x3d
Noctua G2 d-h15
R1000x Corsair psu
GPU will be either 7900xtx or 5080
Will probably add another 1tb nvme drive
Frustratingly I made my last pc when the 3080 dropped.
I've hardly used it. If I want to play single player, I cant be bothered going into the pc room, and multiplayer is dead right now.
I bought a new shiny Oled monitor in November to try and push me into playing it more and it hasn't happened.
That being said, I will probably build a new machine and really try and use it this time
I've hardly used it. If I want to play single player, I cant be bothered going into the pc room, and multiplayer is dead right now.
I bought a new shiny Oled monitor in November to try and push me into playing it more and it hasn't happened.
That being said, I will probably build a new machine and really try and use it this time
Almost to the word. Weird, ain't it?Have a ridiculous room that was set up to be my geeking heaven, but has basically become a storage room.
Not going to pretend a new build would turn anything around for me!
Yeah, it's quite depressing really.
Have a ridiculous room that was set up to be my geeking heaven, but has basically become a storage room.
Not going to pretend a new build would turn anything around for me!
I've plenty of single player games I want to play, but I think I'd rather just couch play them on a console, so I put myself off playing them.
And yup, I had a dedicated room for all this with all my Fallout merch, and as you say, mines currently used as storage.
Finalmouse drop a new mouse at 11... No doubt I'll try and buy one...just cause
very nice build I like it.I went kinda similar with.
lian li lancool 216
msi x670e gaming wifi plus
2x16gb cl30 gskill trident neo z5
1tb crucial p5 plus 1tb samsung 990 pro and 2tb crucial t500
9800x3d
4x p12 arctic pwm pst a-rgb fans
phantom spirit cooler
rm1000x atx 3.1 psu
case and fans ,cooler etc in white.
My gaming PC that I built during COVID (RTX3080, Ryzen 3700x, built in 2020) is primarily being used to.. work from home
I have used it for gaming a fair amount since I've had it though so no regrets there but since it can still run anything I throw at it on max setting on my 1440p monitor I can't justify upgrading it. Especially with how little I use it for gaming these days. The only things I can think of that I could justify upgrading would be my keyboard (old Corsair K95 RGB that's somehow survived a few spills of soft drinks and beer but I did sort of melt some keycaps with the blow dryer last time around) and my screen since it's a 27" and an ultrawide would be so much better for the work I do. And maybe the mouse, the rubber grips sometimes get unstuck a bit but that's easily fixed. All of this stuff has held up surprisingly well if I'm honest. The keyboard is probably around 10 years old, and the mouse and screen are 5 to 6 years old and still going strong.
I have used it for gaming a fair amount since I've had it though so no regrets there but since it can still run anything I throw at it on max setting on my 1440p monitor I can't justify upgrading it. Especially with how little I use it for gaming these days. The only things I can think of that I could justify upgrading would be my keyboard (old Corsair K95 RGB that's somehow survived a few spills of soft drinks and beer but I did sort of melt some keycaps with the blow dryer last time around
) and my screen since it's a 27" and an ultrawide would be so much better for the work I do. And maybe the mouse, the rubber grips sometimes get unstuck a bit but that's easily fixed. All of this stuff has held up surprisingly well if I'm honest. The keyboard is probably around 10 years old, and the mouse and screen are 5 to 6 years old and still going strong.Nice! I wanted to build something I won't bother upgrading anytime soon.
For the guys above. I can't believe you have a dedicated room and not use it. That's like the dream for me. I am parked in a corner beside the bed, cozy but yea a room would be great.
You're not the only one, haven't done much PC gaming since i bought the 3070, currently using my 165hz GSync monitor for buttery smooth MS word and excel scrolling
. Looking at current prices it's really gone mad (i thought it was bad i did my last build in 2020), don't think i will be building again for the foreseeable future 
.I built Ryzen 5600 + 5700 XT budget combo. Probably gonna replace it in 3 years at max. But I loved building it for a simple reason it's so cheap (had a discount as well for 5700XT) and the performance is good for the price. Don't think I'd go back to Intel CPU to be honest. For GPU I might go back to NVDIA. AMD software is awful.
This thread this morning made me think about the money I'd set aside to replace my gaming pc. I'd counted on having to upgrade this year but as I really don't see the need I'm thinking of spending the money on something that sees plenty of daily use (I WFH 4 out of 5 working days), which is a coffee (espresso) machine
My hardware is becoming dated (Ryzen 2600, 16gb ram, rtx 3060ti) but I really don't feel the urge to upgrade as i can still play most new games at 1080-1440p just fine
Never expected anything different to be honest
DLSS 4 and mutli-frame generation were always going to be the true power. Is it worth that extra cost again? I'm not so sure. Also, I wonder what the latency will be like now.
Great sales pitch, though!Never expected anything different to be honest
DLSS 4 and mutli-frame generation were always going to be the true power. Is it worth that extra cost again? I'm not so sure. Also, I wonder what the latency will be like now.
Being just a spectator and pretty certain I’m skipping this series, it is interesting to simply observe and see how things pan out, especially AMD’s response.
Yep, I've absolutely no interest in these. The thing people have to remember is that the consoles hold it all back anyway, and if I can hit something like Alan Wake 2 with full raytracing and get it running close to my 165hz monitor, why would I need an upgrade that is once again a sideways-step?Great sales pitch, though!
Being just a spectator and pretty certain I’m skipping this series, it is interesting to simply observe and see how things pan out, especially AMD’s response.
It's a con in that the 40-series was actually a step down power wise (so my 4070ti performs worse than my 3070ti without DLSS) so these are essentially the same power as the 3-series and it all heavily relies on games using DLSS 4, which of course most new games do but you have a huge catalogue of games which don't. Not to mention the latency issues which pretty much rule out DLSS/Frame generation for anything multiplayer.
I'm still Nvidia GPUS over AMD, because the later do miss the boat on a lot of things, but I'm not into this upgrading every other year shite. The only reason I with to the 40-series was because my son needed an upgrade, so he got my 3070 as the raw performance is perfect for his sweaty Fortnite, Siege and Tarkov wagers/scrims
Tried out DLSS 4 in Cyberpunk last night and I have to say the improvement seems massive. Performance mode and even Ultra Performance mode are very usable now - the claim about DLSS4 Performance mode matching or beating DLSS 3.8 Quality mode appears true. Playing with path tracing at 4k is actually attainable for me now with a few compromises.
Currently have a 14900k in my rig and I'm becoming super tempted to get the 9950X3D when it comes out and switch to AMD.
The 14900k is great but it just runs so hot and it's getting on my nerves.
The 14900k is great but it just runs so hot and it's getting on my nerves.
I’ve sort of stepped away from the idea of upgrading for a while
I’ve still played sweet feck all since I posted last month and with the 5000 series cards seemingly like a small increase, I’ve got no motivation to do so
I’ve still played sweet feck all since I posted last month and with the 5000 series cards seemingly like a small increase, I’ve got no motivation to do so
I've so little interest in upgrading right now. Running a 5800x3D and a 7900XT. Upgrading would mean new motherboard, new ddr5 RAM, and I just don't see the games out there needing it at the moment. I've the alienware OLED monitor so FPS capped at 165, and I've no games I'm currently playing that struggle hitting that. Seems a lack of games that are that demanding graphically at the moment (said with the big caveat that I hate playing 3rd person action games, so a lot of games like Spiderman I'll never play).
The new 5080 cards are such weird things. They look like very underwhelming marginal upgrades to the 4080 at a glance. The card with the lowest improvement to the direct predecessor ever made. But then several tests I've seen report that it actually has quite good overclocking potential, both for the processing units as well as for the VRAM. And that's without sacrificing efficiency. It seems Nvidia's standard configuration of the card runs it a solid 10% below its own sweetspot.
Makes me wonder why they are making their own product look bad.
Makes me wonder why they are making their own product look bad.
I'm in a similar spot.
I've got a 3070 and a 5800X, and my backlog of games is so big that I could probably go a good five years without buying anything new and still have plenty of games I haven't touched.
3070 is still a great card. I've a 3080 myself but it's only the 10gb VRAM version, which is a bit of a killer for the more demanding VR games especially. Otherwise I'd be set for years also.
Yeah, the 8GB VRAM is a slight concern, but given I've yet to see an upcoming release I'll want from the jump (aside from GTA VI, which I'll probably end up getting on PS5 anyway as the PC release will no doubt be a good year after) then it shouldn't be an issue.
I actually think the earliest I'll be upgrading is around the PS6 launch (so 2027 ish). If I'm still going strong with my current build I might even end up pushing that back.
Good plan. PS6 will probably be more so 2028 anyway, just my hunch after the PS5 Pro launch.
So I could have wasted money on a 5080, but I’m not stupid.
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Nvidia don't run cards below max, so they've done it for a reason. My only guess is they wanted to leave room for a TI, and the 5080 was making that difficult so they've underclocked it. It's getting very close to 4090 levels on quite a few overclocking reviews which changes the value of it completely.
I've not looked at the 9950x3D at all yet, any news on the cache situation?
My son has the 7950x3D and they seem to have fixed the core parking issues for the most part. Great cpu.
I'm not sure what you mean?
The 950 cpus are basically dual cpu. But the V-cache (what makes the, x3D) is only accessible by one set of cores, at least on the 7950. On launch, and for a fair whilst after, you had to tell it to basically shut down half of the cores when playing games so you got the proper performance.
I didn't know if there was any word on whether or not the new one shares that cache as it was rumoured it might at one point. They eventually made it much better on the 7950 so hopefully it works out of the box, but you never know.
Wasn't aware of this to be honest, I've never had an AMD CPU before. From what I can see though it seems less of an issue now thought.
Ah, fair enough mate.
Yes it's less of an issue now, but it still is necessary to run a program to assign cores sometimes (though he knows how to manually core park, he hasn't had to as far as I know). My son runs multiple recording/streaming programs and the likes of discord whilst playing games, so the 7950x3D pretty much gives him a 7800x3D for games and all the rest on a seperate CPU all at the same time with no performance loss. However, it was a lot more expensive.
If you are just gaming, or doing other things when not gaming, the 7800x3D instead of the 7950x3D and for the 9950x3D (most likely anyway) the 9800x3D, are the better options. Also, the 950 series is definitely wasted if you aren't going up to DDR5 memory too.
To make it even more complicated, the 9900x3D is an unknown factor. I don't really see where it's going to slot in, I think AMD might be taking this lead they have and muddying the water especially as it most likely won't have any real gains. But suffice to say, any AMD cpu from the 7800x3D up are going to well outlast the rest of this generation and well into the next (probably be far superior to those too), so if it's an x3D you can't really go wrong.
Cool thanks. I'm going to wait a little while to decide first to be fair. I would be using DDR5 though yeah.
No worries, when you are ready to pull the trigger we should know about the new CPUs anyway, I've just had a quick look and it seems that it's expected anytime now. I'm upgrading myself too, I'm just waiting on the prices/performance of the 9900x3D otherwise I'm sticking with the planned 9800x3D as I really don't see what it'll offer for that price. In fact I believe AMD themselves have said for gaming they'll be similar if not slightly less performance depending on the game/engine (which usually means between Unreal 4/5 and Unity based games).
But as of right now the 9800x3D and DDR5 is the very best for gaming. The 7950x3D is the best for single PC streaming/video editing whilst simultaneously gaming.
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I'm having quite an issue with my PC and am at my wits end.
The issue I'm having is that wifi speeds on my PC take a nosedive after a minute or two into the ~50kbps range. Sometimes speeds hang out at 2/3 mbps. On my phone, laptop and everything else, with the same distance to router, I get 200-250mbps down. The weirdest part is that when the display goes to sleep, wifi speeds pick back up to the 200-250mbps range. So if I'm downloading a game for example it will download at miniscule speeds while the display is active, but once it goes to sleep the speeds (along with the fans) ramp right up.
This was happening with the motherboard's stock Wifi adapter, so I bought an ASUS PCE-AX3000 card to see if that would fix things but it made no difference whatsoever.
I've tried a clean re-install of windows, same issue. For a few minutes I had speeds in the 200mbps range, but that quickly deteriorated into the same situation I was in previously. Also rebooted the router multiple times, same results (a couple minutes at best of normal speeds, and then they nosedive).
Specs are
Gigabyte B550-UD AC motherboard
Ryzen 7 5800x CPU
Nvidia (Asus) 4070
32GB DDR4 RAM
Windows 11
I've also had some limited bluetooth issues which might stem from the same place. Not sure.
The issue I'm having is that wifi speeds on my PC take a nosedive after a minute or two into the ~50kbps range. Sometimes speeds hang out at 2/3 mbps. On my phone, laptop and everything else, with the same distance to router, I get 200-250mbps down. The weirdest part is that when the display goes to sleep, wifi speeds pick back up to the 200-250mbps range. So if I'm downloading a game for example it will download at miniscule speeds while the display is active, but once it goes to sleep the speeds (along with the fans) ramp right up.
This was happening with the motherboard's stock Wifi adapter, so I bought an ASUS PCE-AX3000 card to see if that would fix things but it made no difference whatsoever.
I've tried a clean re-install of windows, same issue. For a few minutes I had speeds in the 200mbps range, but that quickly deteriorated into the same situation I was in previously. Also rebooted the router multiple times, same results (a couple minutes at best of normal speeds, and then they nosedive).
Specs are
Gigabyte B550-UD AC motherboard
Ryzen 7 5800x CPU
Nvidia (Asus) 4070
32GB DDR4 RAM
Windows 11
I've also had some limited bluetooth issues which might stem from the same place. Not sure.