Is there a chance that we use any of our young starlets sending out on loan as makeweight? Someone like Chong could do pretty well in the Portugues league.
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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Don’t think Sporting would want anyone on loan unless they can make an immediate impact like Nani a few seasons ago.
Does not make sense to develop other teams young players when we have our own that we can develop and get the rewards both financially and on the field.
Our academy is known for pumping out stars so we don’t need to develop players from a different academy.
I would not mind a player like Romero for example permanently as we could use a good solid keeper but I don’t like the idea of loans unless they add immediate impact on a team and are a difference maker.
We’re not interested in this guy. And before everyone starts losing their shit - neither is anybody else by the looks of things. That includes Spurs who are clearly in the market for this type of player, but are trying to sign Lo Celso and have looked at Ceballos it seems, Liverpool who need this type of player, Real Madrid who are after Pogba (he player many fans would be happy to go if we could get this Sporting Lisbon player they have never seen) and Eriksen or Bayern who are rivalling Spurs for Lo Celso. However, we’re apparently a ‘disgrace’ or an ‘embarrassment’ for not sealing ‘the Fernandes deal’ (of which there is probably no such deal).
Well said @Rozay
The new Gaitan.
The rumours started with way back in January so would be weird for it to persist for so long but we've seen this before from players from this league.
So predictable. No problem with that as well. He's undoubtedly a decent player, but I just don't think it would've worked both in the premier league and with our players/system.
Said it for a while, this is Gaitan 2.0
Ole's comments today pretty much confirm our summer transfer spending is over. Unless something dramatic happens like Lukaku/ Pogba leaving, or Sporting/ Leicester drop their asking prices dramatically - neither of which I can see happening.
With our players it doesn’t work at all, whatsoever. If we don’t buy better midfielders than what we have, it won’t work again (unless you expect that several players miraculously step up and become stars).
If Fred, Pereira and McTominay somehow start playing at the level of Fernandinho, KDB and Eriksen, the. Of course it may work. But it is highly likely they will not...
The problem with us distancing from Fernandes would be that who the feck are we working on then? Just Longstaff? That's it? That's our planned midfield enforcement? We haven't been firmly linked with anyone else.
Is the plan to just rely on Mctominay, Pereira and Fred and hope one of them just magically significantly improves? We will already be rolling the dice on the RW situation, doing the same in midfield is just absurd.
Is the plan to just rely on Mctominay, Pereira and Fred and hope one of them just magically significantly improves? We will already be rolling the dice on the RW situation, doing the same in midfield is just absurd.
What a disaster of a summer that will have been. So much for a “rebuild”.
Maybe Woody thinks we have enough quality to make the top 4 anyway or what I think is that he doesn't care as long as the club is making money.
Woodward is an investment banker. For a banker, the one (and ONLY) important thing are KPIs for bonus payments.
Apparently, Woodward’s personal bonuses are not related to Man Utd results, but rather to other factors.
Thankfully I'm not in charge of transfers. I would've bought Bruno. Nobody is in for him. Shows you how clueless I am.
Don't know anything about banking. Just read about KPI and still couldn't understand it properly. What I get from your point in bold is what makes me see why Woodward is not bothered by results. He is just happy making the Glazer's money as long as he keeps his job, which I am sure he is paid healthily for, without me knowing exactly what he is paid. Can you explain how the KPI works please?
Well, KPI are set for individuals/divisions as certain goals to reach in a certain time period. If KPIs are reached, pre-agreed bonuses may be paid, if not - no bonus (or some formulae to calculate the bonus based on percent of KPI completion).
For example, “increase revenue by 10%”, “reach 20% EBITDA margin”, “increase net cash flow by 50m”, “sign 5 new sponsorship deals”, “win the league”, “win FA cup”, etc.
You guys dont get it, Ed said that we do not need to win to be commercially viable and the Glazers care about one thing...making themselves money. If we win a title thats a plus but the first order of business is for them to get paid.
When we stop making so much money, they will sell the club for a massive profit and be laughing all the way to the bank.
What's the point of buying players just for the sake of buying them ?
It's nonsense to overspend on players just because they might be slightly better than what we have .
You spend big money on players that you know will make a big difference and that's not Maguire or Fernandes
Thank you very much for explaining this
Surely we would be buying them because we want to improve the squad. Now I'm not convinced by either Maguire or Fernandes and they would both obviously be a bit of a gamble, because every signing is, but surely they're a lot less of a gamble than trusting the likes of Mctominay, Fred and Pereira will massively improve this season, what with them being already proven, to an extent, on a high level for a full season.
Doing nothing won't exactly improve a squad that finished 6th last season either.
I fully understand the point in bold, as I've seen the quote myself.
Regarding the second the last point I would not want us to start losing money. Although I would like to see the Glazer's sell the club so hopefully we have new owners who take over and a new CEO, who care as much about results on the pitch as they do about making money for the club.
the more I think about it I feel it isnt happening which is slightly disappointing
His club seem eager enough to let him go, he seems to be a hardworking goal and assist machine who has a high level of technical ability and, with my admittedly limited knowledge of him, you can see he'd make a positive impact on our weak midfield
doesn't make sense that we haven't signed him - this isnt one that would be hard to get over the line - suggests he isnt on Ole's list
His club seem eager enough to let him go, he seems to be a hardworking goal and assist machine who has a high level of technical ability and, with my admittedly limited knowledge of him, you can see he'd make a positive impact on our weak midfield
doesn't make sense that we haven't signed him - this isnt one that would be hard to get over the line - suggests he isnt on Ole's list
It makes perfect sense that we haven’t signed him - maybe OGS doesn’t want HIM in particular.
But what makes no sense is that we signed no one at all in midfield - this is simply disgraceful for the fans and manager considering midfield “performance” last year and departure of Herrera
It really doesn't look like United or any other club were ever in for him. Just the usual Portuguese media drumming up nonsense a la Gaitan.
He is been presented here as a messiah, like he can come and replace Pogba ( who is one of the best midfielders in the world currently ).
Bernardo Silva had a very mediocre first year if I remember correctly, this year we need only players that can go to the first eleven and Bruno is never that player, maybe next year when we can integrate him.
And if we are to take a big risk, I prefer to take it with Gomes who looks very exciting.
You must rate Bruno very, very low if you think he can't make it to our first eleven. He is not a Pogba type of player but this idea that he's a Pogba replacement or that the two can't play together has been repeated to exhaustion and it's just not true.
This guy would walk into our first eleven.
What people fail to comprehend is that our profitability is intrinsically linked to how successful the club is. Whether directly or indirectly, they will most definitely be related to results.
I don't usually trust The Mirror on transfer stuff but think this is the end of the road for signing him.
Many people did feel this was all coming from Portuguese sources and looks like they were bang on.
Many people did feel this was all coming from Portuguese sources and looks like they were bang on.
I was told on here in previous summers that the likes of Depay (lots of goals in a weak league), Darmian, Mkhitaryan, Fred, Dalot, Lindelof would all walk into our starting 11, none of them did.
Woodward: "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."
“This means that by winning the champions league, a club can earn €82,450,000 of prize money under this structure, not counting shares of the qualifying rounds, play-off round or the market pool.”
But the cafe thinks Woodward, a man who they accuse of only caring about profit, doesn’t care about that €100m+ revenue stream though. Makes sense.
The one quote that made me rely dislike Woody.
Bruno Fernandes and Maguire will make a massive difference for us.
I agree but Leicester said they want time to buy a replacement. So if we do sign him we need to do it soon.
How many ex-footballers, coaches and scouts do you see running top football clubs? ‘Woodward is just a banker’. Just as well we got one of those to run a multi-billion dollar company then. He hired an ex-footballer to manage the football team.
Woodward arranged the glazer takeover, saddling the club with hundreds of millions in debt. His priority isn't the clubs success, it's ensuring the steady stream of cash to himself and our parasitic owners.
We'd spend well over £100m to have a chance at winning it. A chance, at winning. These guys aren't gamblers, they're not fans, they just want guaranteed income.
We'd probably have to spend more just to get back in to the CL right now too, just for a smaller share of that money.
I'd be very surprised if we're after anyone but Maguire at this stage.
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