There would always be something else to fix but this excuse is wearing thin and Amorim has to figure out how to stop relying solely on likes of Bruno because if he cant then he is not gonna last long here .
8
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 31
- Goals
- 6
- Assists
- 12
- Yellow cards
- 7
- Red cards
- 3
His lack of awareness of his own terrible habits as our captain is a piss take.
The number of times he gives the ball away without any pressure that ends our promising attacks or create opposition chances.
I can't believe he's central to everything under another new manager, he's terrible on set piece.
He was told to cut out the long Hollywood passes but now we realise the short ones he can't do either.
The number of times he gives the ball away without any pressure that ends our promising attacks or create opposition chances.
I can't believe he's central to everything under another new manager, he's terrible on set piece.
He was told to cut out the long Hollywood passes but now we realise the short ones he can't do either.
Played a big part overall in our goals and we didn’t sniff anything when he came off. Strange that.
The Yoro moment came from a lack of cohesion I think. Should have never resulted in a goal regardless.
All creativity and initiative went out the window when he was subbed though.
He looked absolutely shattered in the last couple of minutes, so I wasn't surprised he went off anyway.
All creativity and initiative went out the window when he was subbed though.
He looked absolutely shattered in the last couple of minutes, so I wasn't surprised he went off anyway.
Said it in the match thread, but ask around among oppo fans and you'll find that most consider him our best player by a mile. Come on here and you'd be forgiven for thinking he's Jesse Lingard Mk. II.
Greater Chances are he wouldn't even have been signed Under Fergie .
And if signed he would have been reduced to rotational option quickly before being moved on.
He was off for 15 mins. He was absolutely crap with attack far more than 15 mins.
Epitomises this United team. Capable of fantastic moments, but gives away the ball too cheaply. He shouldn’t ever be in our own half, he needs to be as close to the opposition goal as possible.
We can’t drop him, because much like with Rashford his alternatives aren’t good enough.
We can’t drop him, because much like with Rashford his alternatives aren’t good enough.
Sloppy but still involved in most of our best chances. A typical Bruno performance.
He always needs to take a touch to get the ball under control and then pass it. When he tries to pass it first time he gets it wrong.
He is 30 years old now, so i think its time to start thinking beyond him.
He is 30 years old now, so i think its time to start thinking beyond him.
Strongly disagree.
Unfortunately he has many faults which counter the good. It’s possible to be one of the more creative but also disruptive player in a team. He has no middle ground.
Poor game from him, nice goal, still a mistake to take him off. Fair for Amorim to try things but our creativity and passing dies when he isn't there.
It was a bad and careless pass in an area that is always going to hurt, but I do think that the speed that Yoro comes in at creates a smaller window that you would really like there, he should still do better.
He's not a SAF player. Would have gotten the hair drier treatment at some point.
The case FOR Bruno
- Typically, leads the stats for most assists in our team
- Provides a reasonable/good return of goals for his position
- Cannot really fault his energy levels and effort in a match
The case AGAINST Bruno - Some people work under the misconception that if we did not have Bruno then there would be nobody else to provide that level of assists, almost as if there would be a Bruno-shaped hole in our starting eleven. The reality is that we would recruit (hopefully) a similar level of player who is more reliable and composed.
- Bruno's goal ratio has been inflated by being a regular penalty taker for the side....not always but regularly during his time with us.
- Although his energy levels and effort are high in matches he cannot control either enough to bring any level of composure to our team. He is Captain Chaos personified.
- Bruno is worse than a bad player. At least with a bad player they are obviously bad, sometimes even consistently bad which makes the decision very easy to get rid of them. Bruno is like that girlfriend you have where you don't really click 100% but she doesn't consistently do anything bad enough for you to consider breaking up. Sometimes things are pretty good with her, sometimes they're a bit shit. It's the type of relationship where you easily waste 5/10 years and when you finally split you realise you should have done it a lot sooner.
Jesse Lingard? Come on the CAF and you would believe that Bruno is David Bellion or Gabi Obertan. Just has flashes and gives the ball away.
Honestly, Bruno is the one player in this squad who shows even an ounce of sparking a fight back in s-t situations. He was icing his ankle after our last home game. We know he's played through pain for us, Ten Hag was open about it, but nobody gives a cak.
The sequence that led up to our first goal, Bruno drops in creates the space for Ugarte to progress the ball and play Garnacho in. The sequence for our second, he volleys it into Amad's pass and then gets into the box for the return to score.
Nobody else in this squad is doing what Bruno does. Nobody is even come close to it.
I definitely agree with this bitJesse Lingard? Come on the CAF and you would believe that Bruno is David Bellion or Gabi Obertan. Just has flashes and gives the ball away.
Honestly, Bruno is the one player in this squad who shows even an ounce of sparking a fight back in s-t situations. He was icing his ankle after our last home game. We know he's played through pain for us, Ten Hag was open about it, but nobody gives a cak.
The sequence that led up to our first goal, Bruno drops in creates the space for Ugarte to progress the ball and play Garnacho in. The sequence for our second, he volleys it into Amad's pass and then gets into the box for the return to score.
Nobody else in this squad is doing what Bruno does. Nobody is even come close to it.
This team is built on Bruno’s image and likeness. We don’t progress with him at the heart of our game
Strongly disagree.
I think if he plays a proper grounded pass with the right weight and not a wobbly one which he did - to Garnacho, he probably plays a better cross which reaches Hoijland’s head.
Its the simple things he messes up that people often overlook. He’s the exact opposite player we need at the moment.
Its the simple things he messes up that people often overlook. He’s the exact opposite player we need at the moment.
He's not even remotely close to a Fergie player. Think of the mainstays in that era and compare them to Bruno Fernandes. He's not a patch on any of those players.
Would have been sold or been a permanent bench player long ago (after being chewed out several times) under Fergie.
It doesn’t if he plays Erikkson instead of Mount though. I think Amorim will find this out soon
This is my whole big problem, he's never had competition for his role, so this whole narrative that we can't do anything without him exists.
We need another attacking mid or 2 to compete with him, and if we do he won't last long.
I hate seeing him wearing the armband. Best moment was him getting subbed, he was our weakest midfielder.
Not really, he was gassed and playing fairly shite. Deservedly taken off, the problem with taking him off is the total lack of options to replace him with. Mount was invisible.
I also thought it was odd to bring Bruno off and keep Mainoo on. Probably in this game, we should tried to get the point by going all in placing Bruno in midfield and put Mount on further forward. Without Bruno, we are losing the courage to take risks - but there is no alternative to force that squad to come up with something. Our overreliance on Bruno is a burden to the player himself at this point. But we have to for our hand here, Bruno isn't going to get younger, we simply have to come up with alternative routes to create chances. There is simply no other way around. At this point, I'd like to see Amad played in the half spaces and Dalot or Maz as RWB. Dalot on the left isn't really pulling trees anyway and given that Amad is the player that resembles the players Amorim mostly used at Sporting for those inside 10 roles, we should give it a shot. We simply need ability to keep the ball in tight spaces in those areas.
Source: Trust me Bro. You thinking he would succeed are just as worthless as claims that he wouldn't be. And even if he would have excelled - Fergies best teams played 10 years ago. Different kind of football.
What would be wrong with it?! He can be our best player and still be not very good. People have to realize that being the "best player of United" isn't some sort of medal anymore, like it once was. Doesn't matter how much better Bruno potentially is in comparison to McTominay, Casemiro, Mainoo or Eriksen - he has to be compared to KDB, Enzo, McAllister, Szoboszlay, Maddison, Odegard and the likes.
Okay, let me rephrase: Many of them consider him one of the best players in the league, while people on here talk about him like he's Championship quality. He stands up well in comparison to all the players you mention.
We're kind of damned with and without him. We all know his faults, but he is often the only one really stringing things together and creating stuff. He had a massive part in both goals today. Subbing him was a good message to send, but it didn't improve us at all.
I can definitely understand people wanting to get rid of him next summer, but for the rest of the season, I think he ends up playing the vast majority of minutes if for no other reason than we don't have two better alternatives.
I can definitely understand people wanting to get rid of him next summer, but for the rest of the season, I think he ends up playing the vast majority of minutes if for no other reason than we don't have two better alternatives.
Some on here. I think, the majority of posters is pretty fair with a slight tendency to be too generous.
Hmm. Don't watch those other players on a regular basis so it will always be a little skewed. What I've seen Odegard do on Wednesday was at least a level above Bruno for me personally. He may stand up well in comparison in terms of G/A which is important as a 10, but as he is used for us as way more. I personally think, Brunos skillset is the least rounded of that group, so even if he might be better in terms of passing (if he really is), in total points he probably loses out. A shame for him that he didn't come around 20 to 15 years ago. He certainly would have thrived back then.
We didn't lose the game today because of Bruno, we lost because of calamity defending and TBH some surprising changes by the coach, in this formation Rashford can only play as a 9, anywhere else is the same as playing with 10 men, (and even playing as a 9 sometimes) Casemiro should have been on for Mainoo who didn't really offer much, Bruno's being slaughtered for a bad misplaced pass in a poor area yet Amad was guilty of that as well but I haven't seen anything made of that
His bad pass selling Yoro out was a black mark on his performance. He was pretty good other than that and after he came off, and especially when there was a long delay for the referees assistant we never really got any momentum or pattern of play back on show where we were threatening the Forest goal
As frustrating as he can be at times, we're absolutely clueless at creating chances without Bruno and I knew as soon as he went off that we'd struggle to score again. He's the only attacking player we've got that is even close to looking like an actual United standard player.
Still it was that bad of a game for him. A goal, hit the crossbar from the free kick… there were many worse games. 6G+8A so far
Considering he was meant to be in the RAM position he kept costing us the ball in the defensive areas. The misplaced passes to yoro was the standout error, he was in Amads position.
Ye the difference is Bruno’s cost us a goal. Amads didn’t… so no one’s going to talk about a misplaced pass that didn’t come to anything.
Always? Our 2 goals against Forest started with his first time passes into Ugarte's and Amad's path.
Fecking hell, the hate for the player and the agenda spilled over to mainstream media. Unacceptable!!!
The pass didn't cost us a goal, Onana's sorry attempt to make a save was what cost the goal