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He's both our worst and best player, typically in the space of about 2 minutes.

At one point in the first half we'd overloaded the left wing, just had Bruno and Rashford against one defender. All Bruno had to do was any kind of decent pass and Rashford is in. Instead he tried a no-look backheel and trickled it 2 yards.

What he does better than probably any player I've ever seen though, is stay involved. And eventually something comes off.

I really wonder if a 30 year old Bruno is actually going to improve when he stops doing stupid things 50% of the time, and just lowers it to 25% of the time.

Also, at some point he forgot how to shoot. Which is weird.

Very true.

He's a magnet to the ball on and off it.
 
ETH absolutely adores Bruno, he does not get a single minute rest.

I'm quite surprised by this and not a fan of Bruno on right/left wing but apparently he's always the first name on the team sheet.

He isn't having the best season in terms of numbers actually, i was surprised he only has 5 goals + assists (he's basically playing a free attacking role on this team). He does create chances out of chaos tbh, it's a different dimension to Eriksen and Casemiro.
 
What a signing he has been, might be slightly wasteful at times but he is the spark for a lot of our goals. Love him
 
He's both our worst and best player, typically in the space of about 2 minutes.

At one point in the first half we'd overloaded the left wing, just had Bruno and Rashford against one defender. All Bruno had to do was any kind of decent pass and Rashford is in. Instead he tried a no-look backheel and trickled it 2 yards.

What he does better than probably any player I've ever seen though, is stay involved. And eventually something comes off.

I really wonder if a 30 year old Bruno is actually going to improve when he stops doing stupid things 50% of the time, and just lowers it to 25% of the time.

Also, at some point he forgot how to shoot. Which is weird.

This is the most mystifying and sad part for me. Of course you're going to have less time to line up a shot in England than Portugal, but if you watch the goals he scored in Primeira Liga the technique and power is just ridiculous, really clean ball-striking. He was getting touted as the best long-range shooter in the world and it's completely disappeared from his locker, he barely gets clean contact nowadays and when he does it's always blocked. Wonder what it is. He's still effective without it but it seemed like a big element of his game when he first joined.
 
Sometimes maybe great, sometimes maybe shit... That's Bruno from minute to minute every game. :lol: I don't think I've seen a player as erratic as this. Pings a pass from one half to the other, then fails to pass the ball 5 yards.
 
ETH absolutely adores Bruno, he does not get a single minute rest.

I'm quite surprised by this and not a fan of Bruno on right/left wing but apparently he's always the first name on the team sheet.

He isn't having the best season in terms of numbers actually, i was surprised he only has 5 goals + assists (he's basically playing a free attacking role on this team). He does create chances out of chaos tbh, it's a different dimension to Eriksen and Casemiro.

That's not true at all.

This season for ManUtd
-Bruno played most key passes, he has 2x key passes than the next player (Eriksen)
-Most xA and xA/90 for ManUtd, again 2x than next year (for xA)

In PL
-He is 3rd in xA, behind KdB and Trippier and 4th in xA/90 mins.
- 3rd in Key passes.

He has created chances consistently and in all the systems. This "Bruno plays well when game is stretched" is just wrong, ofcourse every player plays better when game is stretched compared to when the game is defensively tight, not just Bruno. Every player loves bit of space.
 
He was absolutely diabolical today. I mean it’s pretty fecking easy racking up these chance stats everyone loves to champion when he’s playing like it’s the fecking Harlem Globetrotters on exhibition every match instead of Manchester bloody United in the English Premier League.

Does my fecking head in this guy.
 
He was absolutely diabolical today. I mean it’s pretty fecking easy racking up these chance stats everyone loves to champion when he’s playing like it’s the fecking Harlem Globetrotters on exhibition every match instead of Manchester bloody United in the English Premier League.

Does my fecking head in this guy.

:lol:
 

You laugh but it is interesting to see Bruno's stats compared to other attacking midfielders. The amount of progressive passes is in the 89th percentile which is excellent. Given the fact that he is also in the 96th percentile on passes attempted it makes sense. His percentage of completed passes is quite low though, only in the 45th percentile.
He is also in the 92th percentile on miscontrolled balls and in the78th of being dispossessed which is quite terrible.

On the other hand he is an absolute topscorer when it comes to his defensive work, and I think that is why he is such a vital part of our setup as a 10. He will very often stop the opposition high up the pitch and help generate a counterattack.

Bruno can be displayed as a world class player or a useless one if you cherry pick stats.
But looking at the whole picture you get the type of player that is almost tailormade for what Ten Hag wants of his offensive players. I rate Ødegaard and KDB quite highly but I honestly am not sure they would be as useful to us in Ten Hags system as Bruno is.

I have criticised Bruno a lot because he often does annoying things, at least when played out of position, and I maintain that there is little reason to play him there, but noone can deny that when playing as a 10 he is almost the perfect player for the way we want to play now.
 
You laugh but it is interesting to see Bruno's stats compared to other attacking midfielders. The amount of progressive passes is in the 89th percentile which is excellent. Given the fact that he is also in the 96th percentile on passes attempted it makes sense. His percentage of completed passes is quite low though, only in the 45th percentile.
He is also in the 92th percentile on miscontrolled balls and in the78th of being dispossessed which is quite terrible.

On the other hand he is an absolute topscorer when it comes to his defensive work, and I think that is why he is such a vital part of our setup as a 10. He will very often stop the opposition high up the pitch and help generate a counterattack.

Bruno can be displayed as a world class player or a useless one if you cherry pick stats.
But looking at the whole picture you get the type of player that is almost tailormade for what Ten Hag wants of his offensive players. I rate Ødegaard and KDB quite highly but I honestly am not sure they would be as useful to us in Ten Hags system as Bruno is.

I have criticised Bruno a lot because he often does annoying things, at least when played out of position, and I maintain that there is little reason to play him there, but noone can deny that when playing as a 10 he is almost the perfect player for the way we want to play now.

Attacking midfielders who creates chances loses possession unless the player is Ozil.
The same stats you mentioned, pass completion Bruno is in 45th percentile, KdB is in 29th percentile.

Bruno is in 78th percentile for dispossessed, KdB is in 33 percentile.
Miscontrols he is in 92 percentile (which is awesome) and KdB is in 36 percentile.

Defensive stats like you said are very good, KdB's are terrible or lets say average.

Ofcourse KdB is elite player and better player than Bruno but people give too much importance to non-important stats. Creative players lose possession, players who plays more in final third tops miscontrol and dispossessed stats as the space is lot less.

Anyways like you said, Bruno is very important player for us. He works very hard and his off the ball movement creates lot of chances for us. He is always on the move.
 
That's not true at all.

This season for ManUtd
-Bruno played most key passes, he has 2x key passes than the next player (Eriksen)
-Most xA and xA/90 for ManUtd, again 2x than next year (for xA)

In PL
-He is 3rd in xA, behind KdB and Trippier and 4th in xA/90 mins.
- 3rd in Key passes.

He has created chances consistently and in all the systems. This "Bruno plays well when game is stretched" is just wrong, ofcourse every player plays better when game is stretched compared to when the game is defensively tight, not just Bruno. Every player loves bit of space.
What is not true, that his numbers are not that impressive? 0,31 G+A / 90', that is less than Eriksen (0,51), Fred (0,39) and Casemiro (0,37). He does have the highest xAG/90' but this does not convert to impressive numbers YET - I would expect him to get much better in G+A in the coming games because of that. He is expected to get the highest numbers considering he gets the most attacking freedom. So again he isn't having the best season in terms of G+A (I don't think you can be happy with 5 G+A so far considering he played 16/17 games this season).
This "Bruno plays well when game is stretched" is just wrong, ofcourse every player plays better when game is stretched compared to when the game is defensively tight, not just Bruno. Every player loves bit of space.
Not sure who you're quoting here.
 
What is not true, that his numbers are not that impressive? 0,31 G+A / 90', that is less than Eriksen (0,51), Fred (0,39) and Casemiro (0,37). He does have the highest xAG/90' but this does not convert to impressive numbers YET - I would expect him to get much better in G+A in the coming games because of that. He is expected to get the highest numbers considering he gets the most attacking freedom. So again he isn't having the best season in terms of G+A (I don't think you can be happy with 5 G+A so far considering he played 16/17 games this season).

No player will get assists if the conversion rate is so poor. Bruno creates chances, it's on other players to convert them.
 
No player will get assists if the conversion rate is so poor. Bruno creates chances, it's on other players to convert them.
This is why I said I expect him to get better in terms of numbers if he continues his form. He still provides openings and good chances, it's just not reflected in the "big" (G+A) numbers yet.

Edit: by the way on this stage last season Bruno had 5 goals and 3 assists (and 10 goals + 6 assists in season total, npxG+xAG 0,57). I would be happy if he could match that current season. But based on the improvement I see from many individuals and team in general, I guess the bar should be put higher for Bruno this season. He is playing in vastly better team now and not quite yet delivering what is expected of him IMO. But, again, I believe he should improve his numbers even on current form which is not bad (his general play has a lot of room for improvement, but I prefer to judge him as a no10/second striker).
 
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Attacking midfielders who creates chances loses possession unless the player is Ozil.
The same stats you mentioned, pass completion Bruno is in 45th percentile, KdB is in 29th percentile.

Bruno is in 78th percentile for dispossessed, KdB is in 33 percentile.
Miscontrols he is in 92 percentile (which is awesome) and KdB is in 36 percentile.

Defensive stats like you said are very good, KdB's are terrible or lets say average.

Ofcourse KdB is elite player and better player than Bruno but people give too much importance to non-important stats. Creative players lose possession, players who plays more in final third tops miscontrol and dispossessed stats as the space is lot less.

Anyways like you said, Bruno is very important player for us. He works very hard and his off the ball movement creates lot of chances for us. He is always on the move.

Yes but again you can cherry pick stats. KDB attempts (and succeeds) dribbles far more than Bruno, which obviously means his disposession will be inflated.If you add Ødegaard the dribbling stats get even worse for Bruno. But in Ten Hags system we dont need Bruno to dribble, its simply not his job.
Ødegaard and KDB npxG + xAG is much better than Brunos, so if people only looked at those stats it would look like Bruno wasnt good for us.

My whole point is that cherry picking stats isnt useful given the very specific role Bruno has for us.
 
Yes but again you can cherry pick stats. KDB attempts (and succeeds) dribbles far more than Bruno, which obviously means his disposession will be inflated.If you add Ødegaard the dribbling stats get even worse for Bruno. But in Ten Hags system we dont need Bruno to dribble, its simply not his job.
Ødegaard and KDB npxG + xAG is much better than Brunos, so if people only looked at those stats it would look like Bruno wasnt good for us.

My whole point is that cherry picking stats isnt useful given the very specific role Bruno has for us.

I didn't cherry pick any stats, I just posted numbers for whatever stats you picked for Bruno.

Ofcourse Odegaard and KdB are much better ball carriers than Bruno, so their stats would be better, also not sure why npXG is relevant here but ok.
 
I didn't cherry pick any stats, I just posted numbers for whatever stats you picked for Bruno.

Ofcourse Odegaard and KdB are much better ball carriers than Bruno, so their stats would be better, also not sure why npXG is relevant here but ok.

An attacking midfielder is expected to contribute with goals. Brunos shot numbers and assist numbers arent great this season, especially compared to other attacking midfielders. Thats why his npxg is low, and that is surely important for an attacking midfielder.
Heck Eriksen, despite playing much deeper has second highest number of assists in the league, despite Bruno doing much more of the progressive passes. You argued earlier that his assist stat was low due to our forwards not converting, but Eriksen is delivering to the same targets?

And again this is where stats become useless. Against Wolves Bruno passed a ball to Antony who was in a much worse angle from goal than Martial.
Its a progressive pass and the pass wasnt bad, but given the position of the two players a pass to Martial was, in that situation, much more likely to lead to a goal. And this is the one thing that Bruno needs to work on, his simple passes are very often not to the optimal player.
 
He seems to be playing on different wavelength. It's a wild idea but maybe that's the reason he's being kept in the team, he offers directness and craziness what sometimes pays off.

I'd like to see a team without Bruno to be honest, I'm not a greatest fan as but ETH seems to adore him. He never drops him, he actually isn't even subbed at all.

I wouldn’t. We‘d create the grand sum of feck all. Be careful what you wish for.
 
I wouldn’t. We‘d create the grand sum of feck all. Be careful what you wish for.

Without any additions I agree. We currently need Bruno but his direct competition the past few years has been Donny. I think we need to have someone who can compete and possibly replace him to go up another level.

Also the two games against Arsenal and City will be informative. Bruno needs to step it up and not be so careless.
 
An attacking midfielder is expected to contribute with goals. Brunos shot numbers and assist numbers arent great this season, especially compared to other attacking midfielders. Thats why his npxg is low, and that is surely important for an attacking midfielder.
Heck Eriksen, despite playing much deeper has second highest number of assists in the league, despite Bruno doing much more of the progressive passes. You argued earlier that his assist stat was low due to our forwards not converting, but Eriksen is delivering to the same targets?

And again this is where stats become useless. Against Wolves Bruno passed a ball to Antony who was in a much worse angle from goal than Martial.
Its a progressive pass and the pass wasnt bad, but given the position of the two players a pass to Martial was, in that situation, much more likely to lead to a goal. And this is the one thing that Bruno needs to work on, his simple passes are very often not to the optimal player.

Not sure where you are going with all this, check their expected assists and that answers all your questions.

Also the point about Martial and Antony, that's just wrong. Antony just messed up the chance. Nothing to do with Bruno's decision there. There was decent enough chance that pass to Martial would have been intercepted with defender sliding.
 
Not sure where you are going with all this, check their expected assists and that answers all your questions.

Also the point about Martial and Antony, that's just wrong. Antony just messed up the chance. Nothing to do with Bruno's decision there. There was decent enough chance that pass to Martial would have been intercepted with defender sliding.

Martial was basically in a penalty position while Antony was way to the left with a defender covering him. It was as easy to pass to Martial as it was to Antony. He simply chose the wrong one.
 
Martial was basically in a penalty position while Antony was way to the left with a defender covering him. It was as easy to pass to Martial as it was to Antony. He simply chose the wrong one.

That's not true. Pass should be played between 2 defenders and one defender was running towards their goal which would have easily resulted in pass interception. When Bruno played pass to Antony, the defender committed for tackle, so Antony just had acres of space and time. He just missed the chance. Hilarious now players missing chances is blamed on Bruno, shame he can't finish for them.
 
I wouldn’t. We‘d create the grand sum of feck all. Be careful what you wish for.
We can't drop (rest) him now because of how thin we are up front, that is clear. I also want to see how this team shapes without CR37, there's a lot of potential to improve even with current 4231 setup. That said Bruno is the center attacking player in a team that is 9th in table for goals scored (and xG too), so I would be willing to experiment a bit more with different setups this season still.

How do you know we would create feck all? Without Bruno we would need/could change setup but maybe it's for the better. The point is, we will never know if he plays 95% of available game-time by default. We can only do it once Antony and Sancho are back though.
 
We can't drop (rest) him now because of how thin we are up front, that is clear. I also want to see how this team shapes without CR37, there's a lot of potential to improve even with current 4231 setup. That said Bruno is the center attacking player in a team that is 9th in table for goals scored (and xG too), so I would be willing to experiment a bit more with different setups this season still.

How do you know we would create feck all? Without Bruno we would need/could change setup but maybe it's for the better. The point is, we will never know if he plays 95% of available game-time by default. We can only do it once Antony and Sancho are back though.

Because we create feck all every time he is not in the team, hence he’s had to come off the bench in search of a winner every time he’s been rested. We also created feck all before he came and instead relied upon pillocks like Lingard and Pereira.

Bruno is Bruno. He could tighten his game up, but he won’t. Ten Hag appears happy enough with that, too.
 
We can't drop (rest) him now because of how thin we are up front, that is clear. I also want to see how this team shapes without CR37, there's a lot of potential to improve even with current 4231 setup. That said Bruno is the center attacking player in a team that is 9th in table for goals scored (and xG too), so I would be willing to experiment a bit more with different setups this season still.

How do you know we would create feck all? Without Bruno we would need/could change setup but maybe it's for the better. The point is, we will never know if he plays 95% of available game-time by default. We can only do it once Antony and Sancho are back though.

So EtH is more defensive manager than Ole I guess, we were in 4-6th position under Ole. Oh the beauty of stats to draw whatever conclusion we want to.
 
He seems to be playing on different wavelength. It's a wild idea but maybe that's the reason he's being kept in the team, he offers directness and craziness what sometimes pays off.

I'd like to see a team without Bruno to be honest, I'm not a greatest fan as but ETH seems to adore him. He never drops him, he actually isn't even subbed at all.
Aston Villa vs Man United was the team we played without Bruno.
 
All he's good at is finding space, taking up good positions, intelligent runs, creative passing, scoring goals, making chances, working hard, motivating others and the occasional dead ball. Surely we should be asking for more.
 
Kind of mad how his goals have dried up from where they were. Had hoped Ronaldo being phased out would bring back his pre-CR7 form.
 
This is the most mystifying and sad part for me. Of course you're going to have less time to line up a shot in England than Portugal, but if you watch the goals he scored in Primeira Liga the technique and power is just ridiculous, really clean ball-striking. He was getting touted as the best long-range shooter in the world and it's completely disappeared from his locker, he barely gets clean contact nowadays and when he does it's always blocked. Wonder what it is. He's still effective without it but it seemed like a big element of his game when he first joined.

We saw plenty of this in his first season and a half at United too. So it’s not an issue with the league he’s playing in. It looked like Ronaldo was his kryptonite because as soon as he joined Bruno not only forgot how to shoot, he started missing penalties. Hopefully he finds his shooting boots again soon because we really need him to start chipping in with goals again soon, if we’re going to achieve anything this season.
 
Because we create feck all every time he is not in the team, hence he’s had to come off the bench in search of a winner every time he’s been rested. We also created feck all before he came and instead relied upon pillocks like Lingard and Pereira.

Bruno is Bruno. He could tighten his game up, but he won’t. Ten Hag appears happy enough with that, too.
Do you mean the one game Bruno didn't start in the league vs Aston Villa? You can't possibly think this is enough to make a judgment?
Aston Villa vs Man United was the team we played without Bruno.
Indeed, we played semi-fit van de Beek in that game and lost 3 goals (kind of extreme situation with xGA of 0,6).


So EtH is more defensive manager than Ole I guess, we were in 4-6th position under Ole. Oh the beauty of stats to draw whatever conclusion we want to.
We still have a lot of games to improve our goal difference, especially after the difficult start to the season. I'm sure we will get better but so far it's not impressive by Bruno. That's hardly a criticism, he has been more than OK so far.
 
He'd be in double digit assists this season if we had a striker. Incredible player, just a shame he has to play behind Martial.
 
I love Bruno! Yes he is a bit crap on the right but sometimes that is the best option EtH has when Antony/Sancho are out.

So anytime he is playing on the RW you have to accept it's not his best position...but no matter what he always effects the game in some way.
 
All he's good at is finding space, taking up good positions, intelligent runs, creative passing, scoring goals, making chances, working hard, motivating others and the occasional dead ball. Surely we should be asking for more.

:lol:

Alright but apart from finding space, taking up good positions, intelligent runs, creative passing, scoring goals, making chances, working hard, motivating others and the occasional dead ball, what has Bruno ever done for us?!
 
Do you mean the one game Bruno didn't start in the league vs Aston Villa? You can't possibly think this is enough to make a judgment?

Indeed, we played semi-fit van de Beek in that game and lost 3 goals (kind of extreme situation with xGA of 0,6).



We still have a lot of games to improve our goal difference, especially after the difficult start to the season. I'm sure we will get better but so far it's not impressive by Bruno. That's hardly a criticism, he has been more than OK so far.

One of many occasions over the past few years. Without him we’re toothless and even more shite. That isn’t changing under Ten Hag.
 
Already defended him in another thread

Just love the guy and his crazyness and will to drive the team foward

He had so many misplaced passes yesterday and gets a bit frustrating, but then i saw a highlights video of the match and he was involved in all except one play (the first goal which came from the eriksen free kick) in the final third, you would have though he had an amazing game yesterday. Thats our Bruno
 
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