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That’s because we don’t have anyone else. If we had Jude Bellingham would we miss him?
If you decide that we can just take any player for any position during any point of the season, then there is no such thing as a player that we would massively miss. Groundbreaking discovery.
 
He was rubbish up until the 2 red cards along with everybody else (apart from De Gea). Playing well/scoring against 9 players should be expected

He makes the very good pass through to Antony which leads to the Sancho shot and the penalty and then all the red card chaos. So at 11 v 11 he makes a decisive contribution.

He was poor today I agree but he's still ended up playing a part in winning the pen, and scoring twice.
 
In the last 20 minutes against Fulham, Bruno pulled back into our defense and helped keep the ball safe by doing simple sideway passes to our defenders. Obviously, he can play like Donny when he wants to (but where is the fun in that?). On the other hand, Donny and most other players, cannot do what Bruno does best: create! When he found an opening he run into the opposition box and scored our third goal.

Perhaps he did not have a great game today, but again he had more impact on the game than any other outfield player, he helped in defense and attack, scored two goals, created chances, and run for 90 minutes. I really enjoy watching Bruno, he is a fantastic player.
 
In the last 20 minutes against Fulham, Bruno pulled back into our defense and helped keep the ball safe by doing simple sideway passes to our defenders. Obviously, he can play like Donny when he wants to (but where is the fun in that?). On the other hand, Donny and most other players, cannot do what Bruno does best: create! When he found an opening he run into the opposition box and scored our third goal.

Perhaps he did not have a great game today, but again he had more impact on the game than any other outfield player, he helped in defense and attack, scored two goals, created chances, and run for 90 minutes. I really enjoy watching Bruno, he is a fantastic player.

Couldn't have said better myself. Excellent post.
 
People salivate over how much he “creates” but I guarantee if you gave any good AM that kind of license and freedom to just chuck possession away relentlessly in search of a killer ball then they’d have similar numbers. It’s like watching a basketball player chase a 50 point game just chucking shots relentlessly until enough go in. It drives me mad because we are basically conceding that we’ll never dominate phases of play or control a game against good sides when he’s in our team.

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He's a wildcard. He was completely lost against Fulham until the pass to Sancho that led to the red card. He's as erratic as Fred, but when it's time for the good Bruno to turn up, he gets a goal or an assist.
 
He was so poor till 60th min, it was like he was taking the piss and there was some internal competition to see who gives away possession the most.

I think biggest issue was lack of midfield, every player just went long to find Rashford, completely bypassing midfield. Casemiro offers himself for possession, McTominay and Sabitzer don't, CBs, FB and any player who dropped deep just went for long pass. It was terrible game and in that Bruno was probably the worst player.

Once he dropped deep (after McT was subbed out) he was very good, spraying passes like a deep playmaker. Antony sub helped the entire team a lot, he was the one who wasn't afraid of the ball.
 
He's a wildcard. He was completely lost against Fulham until the pass to Sancho that led to the red card. He's as erratic as Fred, but when it's time for the good Bruno to turn up, he gets a goal or an assist.

This is the thing with Bruno.

It's fine in the Europa league and games against mid to bottom Prem teams but in the big games he never gets away with it. If you feck up with the ball as much vs City as he did today we'd be 4-0 down by the time that decent pass comes along. Which of course is exactly what we've seen about a dozen times now vs the bigger teams.
 
This is the thing with Bruno.

It's fine in the Europa league and games against mid to bottom Prem teams but in the big games he never gets away with it. If you feck up with the ball as much vs City as he did today we'd be 4-0 down by the time that decent pass comes along. Which of course is exactly what we've seen about a dozen times now vs the bigger teams.
Totally agree with that. What do you think is the solution to getting him to stop being so erratic? More positional discipline?
 
You should inform ETH that you want us to play a more "dominating and controlling game". I'm sure if the team tries to play like that, Bruno will follow along.
I don’t know whether he the problem here but the manager did say during the week “ we are winning against top team but not dominating these games and that’s the next step of progression, if we are to challenge for the league”.
It was in response to a question put him before the Betis game.
 
It amazes me how he seems to be a part of almost every goal we score. Even our first goal today was started by his pass to Antony. He looks up before receiving the header from Maguire and puts it on a platter. Yeah, he loses possession a ton, but what he contributes in terms of goals more than makes up for it.
 
We really need another CAM to rotate with him.
I think Amad will push him next season. Amad can be a good understudy and start cup games and come on as a sub(although ETH rarely subs him off but he could to get some game time for amad where matches are won) for him next season to push development for amad.
 
It's fine in the Europa league and games against mid to bottom Prem teams but in the big games he never gets away with it. If you feck up with the ball as much vs City as he did today we'd be 4-0 down by the time that decent pass comes along. Which of course is exactly what we've seen about a dozen times now vs the bigger teams.
Which conceded goals in those games were exactly because Bruno didn't get away with it?
 
Our midfield needs a revamp. And Bruno has to tighten his game up to aid that in happening. He makes things happen but great teams make things happen without constantly giving the ball away in the process. I’d rather see us play great football rather than play good football and Bruno get great stats.
 
In poor form and needs a break, but injuries to others like Eriksen and Donny have robbed up of rotation options. Doubtless we'll continue to run him into the ground for the remainder of the season.
 
Totally agree with that. What do you think is the solution to getting him to stop being so erratic? More positional discipline?
Imo the solution is rather simple. Wait till Eriksen and Casemiro both available and we'd see a lot less erratic Bruno as showed previously when Bruno played along both.

Atm we have basically no source of creativity Bruno aside. So imo it's understandable for ETH to allow Bruno to try more risky passes. If he doesn't tbh I don't even know how we're supposed to score goals.
 
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People salivate over how much he “creates” but I guarantee if you gave any good AM that kind of license and freedom to just chuck possession away relentlessly in search of a killer ball then they’d have similar numbers. It’s like watching a basketball player chase a 50 point game just chucking shots relentlessly until enough go in. It drives me mad because we are basically conceding that we’ll never dominate phases of play or control a game against good sides when he’s in our team.
That's right, if you give Donny the same license and freedom he'd be our most important player. I'm starting to think the we should have given the same license to Fellaini as well because he was a good AM at Everton.
 
When he's good he's absolutely brilliant but he's bad he's dogshit. Unfortunately we just have to accept that.

Delighted he got 2 goals but his second annoyed me, he's been in that exact position a few times this season and shot well wide across the goal. It was usually 0-0 when that happened from what I can recall. No pressure on him then yesterday and he smashed it in.
 
Not a fan of the freedom he has to just turnover possession as much as he wants. It's borderline malpractice from him and the coaching staff to allow him to continuously lose possession which results in us failing to control games even against mid table teams.

He's been allowed that for so long that now his carelessness with the ball has gotten worse. He's not worried about displacing even the simplest of passes which he does a lot because he's assured of playing time. It's something that needs to be corrected. A professional footballer at the highest level shouldn't be careless with the ball the way Bruno is.

It's hard for me to enjoy the Hollywood passes that he manages to pull off after he's given it away dozen of times prior. He's part of the reason we spend most games chasing the ball even against teams that shouldn't be able to touch us.
 
De Bruyne is also statistically one of the best ball-carrying midfielders in the world, has twice as many assists than Bruno in the league and more chances created in considerably less minutes played. He is one of the best passers in the world with elite technique and set-pieces. He doesn't frequently lose the possession in dangerous areas and isn't known for consistent odd decision-making. I'd swap Bruno for De Bruyne in a heartbeat.
Are you satisfied with City's recent results?
 
2nd in chance creation
2nd in key passes
Top 5 in assists
Top 10 in tackles

Even when not playing at his best, will often make one of, if not the most important contribution. Stands up against all his contemporaries.

Can't really take constant barrage of hate towards him seriously to be honest. He literally does what he was bought for and what we pay him for. That said, it's hard to take a fair chunk of our fanbase seriously at all with regard to their opinion on a whole host of players.

What's worse is that often, these players are the ones consistently making the difference, winning the points.
 
Christ nice to see someone else that gets it. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to watch any other top team, and then watch us, and see the difference in technical quality and control in certain phases of the game. Now whether Bruno can fit into those teams or a team that plays like that is up for debate, but so many fans seem to think our options are Bruno who creates everything (off of a shitload of tries mind you) or some side ways passing merchant that won’t ever take a risk. You CAN have both. Just watch how Arsenal destroyed Palace to today as an example. Constant pressure in the final third, good technical quality, and chances create without just requiring someone to just “hit and hope” killer balls until one comes off n

You do know how long Ten Hag has been at the club don’t you?

Just checking
 
2nd in chance creation
2nd in key passes
Top 5 in assists
Top 10 in tackles

Even when not playing at his best, will often make one of, if not the most important contribution. Stands up against all his contemporaries.

Can't really take constant barrage of hate towards him seriously to be honest. He literally does what he was bought for and what we pay him for. That said, it's hard to take a fair chunk of our fanbase seriously at all with regard to their opinion on a whole host of players.

What's worse is that often, these players are the ones consistently making the difference, winning the points.
Hey, you know, if you chuck any player in that position with a freedom in his play he'd have the same numbers...
 
If you decide that we can just take any player for any position during any point of the season, then there is no such thing as a player that we would massively miss. Groundbreaking discovery.

Yes which is as dumb as saying if he wasn’t here we would miss him.

No shite… if he’s the only attacking midfielder we have.
 
He was so poor till 60th min, it was like he was taking the piss and there was some internal competition to see who gives away possession the most.

Problem with Bruno is that this is the same every game. I get that in order to create chances you have to try stuff but he doesn't appear to be able to keep possession and basic things sometimes elude him. ETH loves him so he isn't going anywhere but I seriously hope we can bring someone in who can genuinely compete with him for a starting berth and give us an alternative.
 
Bruno gave an interview where he said he is used to playing (or likes to play) 3 or 4 games per week. So him playing twice a week is nothing for his energy and stamina.
It clearly is hence his erratic form. Issue is without Eriksen we have no one else who is going to create. This needs fixing in the summer
 
If one of my academically gifted friends ever wants to do research on confirmation bias, then I will link them this thread.
 
Hilarious that TalkShite are bringing Fernandes into the ‘touching the officials’ debate. feck me sideways.

You knew it was coming as soon as that happened yesterday. Says everything about the level of punditry. Anyone with, even remotely functioning, eyesight can see that those two situations are about as similar as the talent of Gabby Aghbonlahor and Ronaldo (any of the two really) at their peak.
 
It's borderline malpractice from him and the coaching staff to allow him to continuously lose possession which results in us failing to control games even against mid table teams.
I'd disagree with Bruno losing possession is the single or main reason of us failing to control games. KDB has almost the same successful passing rate as Bruno does but City are still able to control games. The difference here is their ability to win it back really quick imo. To dominate the modern game it's the effort of the whole team. We're simply not there yet that's all imo.
 
People salivate over how much he “creates” but I guarantee if you gave any good AM that kind of license and freedom to just chuck possession away relentlessly in search of a killer ball then they’d have similar numbers. It’s like watching a basketball player chase a 50 point game just chucking shots relentlessly until enough go in. It drives me mad because we are basically conceding that we’ll never dominate phases of play or control a game against good sides when he’s in our team.

Just to confirm, big chances created isn't chucking possession away. That's creating a very good chance to score that Ronaldo, martial, weghorst or whoever were too shit to score from. Bruno is 2nd in the league on the list behind de bruyne on the official Premier league site.
 
Hey, you know, if you chuck any player in that position with a freedom in his play he'd have the same numbers...

Aye. I'm sure any player could consistently provide chances for Weghorst and co or the drops in attack we have had for years until Rashford came good again.

While having Dick and Dom in support in midfield... Any player...

No. I don't think so tbh. If anything, most players and most managers in that situation would play it safe, like we did before we bought Fernandez to do the exact opposite.
 
I'd disagree with Bruno losing possession is the single or main reason of us failing to control games. KDB has almost the same successful passing rate as Bruno does but City are still able to control games. The difference here is their ability to win it back really quick imo. To dominate the modern game it's the effort of the whole team. We're simply not there yet that's all imo.

Bruno has spent almost his entire time here with a literal comedy duo in support. At times this season,when we've had our best midfielder available, we've shown an ability to emulate what the likes of City do in winning the ball back quickly but for years and recently with Eriksen and Casemiro out, it's been difficult.

Bruno has always done his part of the deal though.
 
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