Mibabalou
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Im going to defend him here - he is clearly trying to do to much because he see's that nothing else will happen unless he does it so hes trying to do to much.
You think Ronaldo takes it upon himself to break team shape, to do bizarre things, attempt ridiculous high risk passes on the edge of his own box, and isn’t disciplined?
You’re the one who should be laughed at. Your agenda makes a fool of you.
passion merchants FC. that is all they can credit him for. he is a passion merchant, simple. this fanbase loves you if you kiss the badge, make knee slides, slide everywhere and run like a headless chicken. but its the same reason they loved Herrera, Rafael, Heinze etc ..He was absolutely shite. End of. Nothing else to report. Certainly nothing to credit him for.
I think his career and dedication….800 career goals justifiesHe has never pressed in his life and he is doing it out of discipline
Pretty much.passion merchants FC. that is all they can credit him for. he is a passion merchant, simple. this fanbase loves you if you kiss the badge, make knee slides, slide everywhere and run like a headless chicken. but its the same reason they loved Herrera, Rafael, Heinze etc ..
Im going to defend him here - he is clearly trying to do to much because he see's that nothing else will happen unless he does it so hes trying to do to much.
What happens then? Is this a serious question? You become a low block then, something we have seen 1000 times over the last 2-4 years. We were down to ten men, we are shit in possession, we are shit at pressing (the coordinated one), we are shit at defending counters and we were really good at attacking with counters. You ask what to do, maybe react to what is happening in front of your eyes.Which is true, but if Ronaldo doesn't do it and then Bruno Fernandes doesn't do it then what happens to Watford?
They get all the time in the world to pick their passes but more importantly we are then built in to a park the bus shape because no one is doing any pressing - we are parking the bus against Watford and letting them play against us because Ronaldo is not even central, he plays towards the left and no pressing. Bruno stops pressing then we park the bus Vs Watford.
This happens against every other team, they can do whatever they want from the back because one person presseses and the other wants to smoke a cigarette and wait for his chances.
What's the alternative- no one presses and we all sit back.
Telling the fans to boo the players after they booed Solskjaer:
What happens then? Is this a serious question? You become a low block then, something we have seen 1000 times over the last 2-4 years. We were down to ten men, we are shit in possession, we are shit at pressing (the coordinated one), we are shit at defending counters and we were really good at attacking with counters. You ask what to do, maybe react to what is happening in front of your eyes.
Brunos "pressing" attempts look so great, they fool a few fans into thinking he is industrious and "hard-working". Great PR. But football is a team sport so everything you do affects the rest of the team. When the team presses as a whole, great - go for it, give them a hard time. But when no ones pressing, stay in shape, keep compact.
I always said Bruno is Ole's football personified. High risk, high reward. No point in possession. But, I am sure, there is a useful player in there. And I am perfectly fine when Bruno gets only half the assists and goals this season, when the tradeoff is, that he plays like a real midfielder. When he gets stuck in and when he works together with the team. Bruno isn't the sole problem. Ronaldo isn't as well. Ole isn't. McFred isn't. It is a combination of all of those factors.
But the key takeaway here should be: Pressing = good is false statement.
He was poor from January last seasonFrom when he signed until this season he basically kept Ole in a job, his form was always going to dip at some point but Ole doesn’t have guys to sense to do anything about it.
Telling the fans to boo the players after they booed Solskjaer:
Can’t fault him for this to be fair.Don’t care what anyone says, this is what a captain should be doing.
Pogba has had countless worse performances than that without as many of the positive ones. Slightly silly comment really.Imagine if Pogba played like that today, but if I speak, I'm in big trouble.
Jesus Christ some absolute garbage crawling out of the bins. I love Pogba but Bruno is twice the player. Bruno walks into every top team in world football, Pogba doesn’t, because unlike Pogba, Bruno has the attitude to match his ability. This narrative that somehow Pogba is hard done by and Bruno gets away with it is fecking Nonsense but I’d expect nothing less on this forum these daysActually quite shocking he's so much adored here, playing in a perfect position a second striker, being on all set pieces, compared to the likes of Pogba who's skill and inventive skills are diminished because he's more complete and playing out of position. The next manager is hopefully strong enough mentally to bench him because he's doing nothing for a season and much more to deserve a starting spot.
I am also not sure why is manager so daft to keep him playing this high not giving him any fecking instructions to help out with midfled presence which is awful, because McTominay is a championship player, with shocking passing ability, unable to figure out his positioning for ages, to help midfield enough. Because Maticshould only play in memorial games and not competetive football, Pogba is too careless and too moody there to keep the right presence there. The only real midfielder there is Fred and now it seems VdB have enough grit and toughness about him to play there too.
So if Bruno needs to play, just make him play a bit deeper and make a 3 men midfield to keep better control of the games otherwise we are rolled over by a fecking Watford with Tom Cleverley in the side.
It's true. It's so true. If we're being even more brutally honest the honeymoon period ended about July or August of last year. And I've said over and over and over again, that if you revisit the posts from that period the bloom was very much starting to come off the rose (note the early origins of, "Not his best game today.") Of course that phrase then became an increasingly rare sight as his poor performances have become more common than his good ones.Been shite for a year now,Barr the odd fleeting moments of magic.Not good enough.Needs to be benched and if he doesn't adapt time to reevaluate at the end of the season.
Absolute bollocksPogba has had countless worse performances than that without as many of the positive ones. Slightly silly comment really.
Seriously. I love Pogba as a player but Bruno has proven to be twice the player in a Utd shirt. I’ve seen some performances from Pogba where he hasn’t look arsed at all, something you can’t level at Bruno even on his worst days. I don’t see how they are comparable.Absolute bollocks
Pogba has played the majority of his time playing in a two man midfield not as a second striker so why would you expect the same amount of goals and assists? On Bruno he’s scored 8 non pen goals (3 in one game) and 7 assists (2 in one game) since January in 34 prem games despite having by far the worst possession stats in the team, having licence to do what he likes and his alround performances being largely dire week after week, losing the ball constantly and losing team shape due to lack of discipline.Pogba had god knows how many games before Bruno arrived to provide goals, assists, leadership and to take responsibility. He did none of that.
Bruno is on a bad run of form (since last season) ...fortunately on that run he has still managed to be more productive than any of our other forwards.
People would do well to remember how little threat we carried pre Bruno and while his high risk style will never be suitable for a top top side, he is one of the few players in the squad that should have some credit built up with fans.
Bruno looked class when he first came in but his impact is overrated and his performances since January have been far worse consistently than Pogba’s ever have over a long period. His impact in that time has diminished and is not that impressive given his free role in the team and his poor possession stats.Seriously. I love Pogba as a player but Bruno has proven to be twice the player in a Utd shirt. I’ve seen some performances from Pogba where he hasn’t look arsed at all, something you can’t level at Bruno even on his worst days. I don’t see how they are comparable.
Yeh maybe. As with all the other players I want to see him under a new manager. Bruno has proven he’s world class, something many of our players haven’t been able to prove.Bruno looked class when he first came in but his impact is overrated and his performances since January have been far worse consistently than Pogba’s ever have over a long period. His impact in that time has diminished and is not that impressive given his free role in the team and his poor possession stats.
Agree. Under a better manager he will be more efficient I’m sure. He certainly shouldn’t be an issue.Yeh maybe. As with all the other players I want to see him under a new manager. Bruno has proven he’s world class, something many of our players haven’t been able to prove.
Don’t make me respond to you with Pogba’s stats in his time here...not to mention his period being played as a left winger and us trying every trick in the book for 5 years to try and “get the best out of him”...never in the history of Manchester United football club has there been a single player as void of responsibility for his own inability to justify his wages as Paul Pogba. Always the managers fault for misusing him or the teams fault for not covering him or his midfield partners fault etc etc.Pogba has played the majority of his time playing in a two man midfield not as a second striker so why would you expect the same amount of goals and assists? On Bruno he’s scored 8 non pen goals (3 in one game) and 7 assists (2 in one game) since January in 34 prem games despite having by far the worst possession stats in the team, having licence to do what he likes and his alround performances being largely dire week after week, losing the ball constantly and losing team shape due to lack of discipline.