I can understand the over under-rating; it's the under over-rating I don't get.
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I can understand the over under-rating; it's the under over-rating I don't get.
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Definitely. There have been consistent under-performers. But Johnson doesn't fit into that bracket.
My view of Johnson has always been coloured by Nani turning him inside-out when we played Pompey in the Community Shield. He looked absolutely clueless against a player that was still only on the fringes of our team.
I also admit that my opinion of him isn't helped by the likes of Andy Townsend declaring him MOTM in England games based on him charging forward a few times and shooting over the crossbar.
Ideally I'd like to have seen Richards get some time in the national side (not that he's perfect or anything, but he's young enough to develop) however Capello didn't rate him for whatever reason, and then he has had injuries. Perhaps Walker will take the position and make it his own, but his form this season hasn't been great.
I also admit that my opinion of him isn't helped by the likes of Andy Townsend declaring him MOTM in England games based on him charging forward a few times and shooting over the crossbar.
Ideally I'd like to have seen Richards get some time in the national side (not that he's perfect or anything, but he's young enough to develop) however Capello didn't rate him for whatever reason, and then he has had injuries. Perhaps Walker will take the position and make it his own, but his form this season hasn't been great.
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they really are a special bunch.On form he's very good going forward, but a bit selfish usually opting to shoot. I've yet to see him be anywhere near as effective coming forward on the left, which is clearly the best part about him.
Never rated Johnson - decent going forwards, but always looks like he's running in syrup when defending. In attack he seems to go for the shot whenever he can see something resembling the goal.
If Glen Johnson was a great RB, it would be self-evident. But great players are great players because they marry ability with consistency. He's not got enough of either.
He's a good player but an average defender.
Johnson is a poor player for a top-four side, but a good player for a mid-table side. Liverpool are mid-table, so Johnson's all right, I guess.
He is one of their better players. Although that aint saying much these days.
I think on he is OK in general and on good days can be better than OK.
I think on he is OK in general and on good days can be better than OK.
Johnson is an absolute bombscare defensively.
Seen him run ragged many a time, and he just switches off far too easily. A
As for Rodger, vastly over-rated for me, i take great pride in watching his side get beat because of that alone. watching his david brent style mannerisms on 'The only way is Liverpool' its clear he thinks he's the ticket anyway.
Seen him run ragged many a time, and he just switches off far too easily. A
As for Rodger, vastly over-rated for me, i take great pride in watching his side get beat because of that alone. watching his david brent style mannerisms on 'The only way is Liverpool' its clear he thinks he's the ticket anyway.
Do you agree with Rodgers assessment of Alves being one of the best right-backs in the world Steve ?. Considering the fact that he's highly suspect on the odd occasion he's asked to do defensive duties, then I don't think there's a lot of difference between the 2 players.
Offensively there's a mountain between Alves and Johnson and even if you wanna mention the fact that he plays for a better team then even at Sevilla, Alves was a cracking player much better than the current Johnson
rodgers is the david brent of football management.
What a whopper.
What a whopper.
What happened to Enrique btw?
I have to be honest, mate - I don't really know a great deal about 'world football', so to speak. Regarding Johnson though, I don't know much about his defensive qualities but he's an exciting player going forward, I reckon.
I agree but to give him any general plaudits other than 'he gets stuck in' or 'works hard' is bollocks too. He's really not a great defender but he's not an utter shithouse as some suggest.
Enrique had a good game against Toon. Johnson must have a knock. Wisdon did well at right back too and he is a good one for the future but I think he was caught out a little for Cabaye's goal. That said Cabaye should have been tracked by Sahin/Allen or Gerard as he came through the middle. Still seems to me that Liverpool look very solid at the back without Johnson.
So who do you reckon Liverpool will buy in January?
Can't see a lot of top strikers out there who would want to go to them. Maybe they can get either Demba Ba or Cissé if they are willing to splash the cash. Not sure they would consider it a step up at the moment though.
Can't see a lot of top strikers out there who would want to go to them. Maybe they can get either Demba Ba or Cissé if they are willing to splash the cash. Not sure they would consider it a step up at the moment though.
Huntelaar is being mentioned as he is out of contract next summer. Personally I'd love to see Sturridge or Lukaku from Chelsea but they wouldn't be likely to join.
It would be mental for Huntelaar to leave a club in the CL to come join Liverpool, who have virtually no chance of making a top 4 spot this season.
But then he is 29 and might be looking for his last big pay day. Money has turned the heads of much wiser men than him.
The talk about "history" is complete BS though. They can't keep pulling that one when they haven't won a domestic league in more than two decades.
But then he is 29 and might be looking for his last big pay day. Money has turned the heads of much wiser men than him.
The talk about "history" is complete BS though. They can't keep pulling that one when they haven't won a domestic league in more than two decades.
He could want a run in England. At 29 you would need to play regularly for the next 4 or so years. He wont be guaranteed that at a top 4 club but at Liverpool he has a chance to play and possibly improve a club to get to the Champions League. Big gamble for him mind.
Are Schalke real contenders in the Bundesliga year on year? Or a decent season or two before Bayern pinch their best talent?
Fact is players want to come to the PL because its once of the top leagues in europe, and the money is good. Liverpool are depserate for a goalscorer so it would seem a good fit.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/liverpool/id/278?cc=5901
bloody hell. try this for a read. I found it difficult to concentrate on what was being written cos of the style used.
bloody hell. try this for a read. I found it difficult to concentrate on what was being written cos of the style used.
Look at AC Milan. Players would still want to join them despite them currently being 14th in Serie A and it's the same with Inter in recent seasons. Why? Because they're a big club. You can apply the same to Liverpool I suppose.
overly stylistically worded bollocks said:
Why does he setup the statement that "Paper alone will not be enough to beat Wigan..." How does that even make sense??
I suggest you take a look at Inter and AC Milans recent transfers.
Maybe it's a convoluted envelope analogy...or maybe it's dreadful writing.
Purely financially controlled though, they have had to sell and start fresh.
And how do you know that they will? Milan have been in Champions League consistently up until now, they won't be in the next one most likely but it'll only be the second time in the last 10 years that they won't make it. Same for Inter, this season is their first outside CL in ages. Liverpool haven't been in it since 2009-10 and won't be in it next year either - that's four seasons with no Champions League football. It's a lot.
Realistically speaking, there's only Juventus, Inter and AC who can win the league, you would expect them to be back with a title challenge within a few years time.
In England, Liverpool has Chelsea, Man Utd, and Man City fighting out for the title, and there's still the likes of Spurs and Arsenal who would honestly find it a disappointment if they finish behind Liverpool. Liverpool would be lucky to qualify for Europa, and for most players, the pull of English football isn't that high that they'll willingly give up Champions League football for the chance to play with Liverpool. Put it in this way, there's a higher chance of Liverpool not qualifying for Europa for 3 consecutives season than there is for them to win the league in the next 10 years.
To suggest Liverpool can lure him with money is fair enough, most players these days will move anywhere if the money is good enough, but I dont think theyhave the kind of money that is needed to offer him such a pay day.
I think we have the money, it's a question of whether or not the owners will pay it. Our wage bill was slashed quite considerably during the summer, & I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two more move on in January, or next summer.
I suppose given Dalglish's nightmare in the transfer market last year they are understandably cautious. But I'm sure even they can see how the lack of quality alternatives up front this season has cost us points.
There's a lot of Liverpool fans who are watching & waiting to see just how much FSG are serious about backing the man they employed to take us forward.
I was listening to a couple of German correspondents last week, and they reckon KJ Huntelaar is bound for either Cheatski or the Bummers, Liverpool are ruled out due to their non participation in the Champs League - obviously, that was just their opinion and who knows ?
As for Liverpool in general, I thought they put a gutsy display up at Stamford Bridge on Sunday and have some promising young players, such as Sterling, and I think given time, Rogers can move them forward, it will come down to the usual scenario, where do the lines of time and expectation begin to separate ?
The thing is, in view of transfer budget restraints and the impending FFP, it is more
important than ever to give youth a chance, and Rogers is implementing the policy immediately.
As for Liverpool in general, I thought they put a gutsy display up at Stamford Bridge on Sunday and have some promising young players, such as Sterling, and I think given time, Rogers can move them forward, it will come down to the usual scenario, where do the lines of time and expectation begin to separate ?
The thing is, in view of transfer budget restraints and the impending FFP, it is more
important than ever to give youth a chance, and Rogers is implementing the policy immediately.
milan as a town is a lot more fun and attractive for a money-ed footballer than liverpool.
True, but I think the town part is over-emphasised. He could live in Manchester (like P Neville?) or next to Owen or several other better places. The drawbacks of the rainy north-west climate and the absence of the club from the champions league are more difficult to overcome.
I'm not s0 sure. I was in Milan once for a few hours and managed to get mugged!
Rumor du jour in Russian papers: Liverpool to sign Lacina Traore from Anzhi Mahachkala in January. Comments from Russian fans suggest that he could be the younger Ivorian version of Peter Crouch! If that doesn't make Liverpool fans excited, I don't know what will. Too bad Traore would never get a work permit, so it's all a bit moot (plus, he would probably cost more than a decade's supply of tampons for Suarez).
Kanchelskis thinks that he would be great for 'Pool, though.
Kanchelskis thinks that he would be great for 'Pool, though.
Lacina Traore, I presume.
You had me confused for a minute as they also have Lassana Diarra.
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