Brentan Rodgers
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To be fair, you can get those at IKEA
Rodgers seems to be making the same mistake AVB made at Chelsea. You can't just turn up at a club and expect a group of players you've never worked with to adapt to an alien playing style simply because you insist upon it.
But he did it at Swansea. No wait, he didn't.
If given the funds and leeway that FSW and KKK got he would make them a much stronger club.
Tried it at Watford.
Yes you can, if that style of play mainly involves passing the ball around in you own half. The trouble is, if you take this style of play to a team expected to finish higher up the table, then it's going to prove difficult to get results. Having possession in your own half is good idea for Swansea as it means the other teams don't have the ball as much and can't score so often, hence you stay in the league. But it's not much of a system if you have top 6 ambitions. Last season Liverpool had 32% of their possession in the opposition half, whilst so far this season only 27%. That's a big difference.
Worked out beautifully. There's a good reason why Liverpool went to Martinez first.
Doesn't seem very big to me, and considering their fairly difficult start to the season a slightly lowered 'possession in the opposition half' stat makes sense.
I believe you can. But you have to have the backing of everybody in the club 100% have your back and want to work at it. To be honest I don't really think Gerrard has the intelligence and the energy to continue to adapt and fit into new systems. I think he plays the one way and if you don't really put him in that niche then he just doesn't look all that good. He is a huge part of getting the team to adapt and mould.
I think it sent a huge message that with the players at the club he still went and paid 16m for Joe Allen... For me it was a good signing but sent all the wrong messages to me as a rival fan that maybe he's not going to be as successful in implementing his own personal philosophy on the players.
Bundle that in with not buying cover for up front. I am not convinced. I wouldn't be surprised if he was sacked for a poor finish this season and/or if he finished even lower than they did last year. The team to me looks more like they are whinging and bickering at each other a little bit more and are uncomfortable and lost for confidence.
All my opinion of course.
I don't think you addressed what I was talking about here. What Rodgers is attempting to do is completely change Liverpool's playing style. Which area of the pitch they keep the ball best isn't really the main focus, but more of the slow and methodical build-up play. The ball ended up in the defensive third for Swansea because... well, Swansea are crap.
My point was that his players at Liverpool are not the type that are able to slow the game down and play from the back. A good example is Skrtel's gift to Tevez against City. They are going to struggle because most of them lack the composure and touch to be able to handle being pressured - which will inevitably happen. It might not be impossible, but it's going to be one giant slog, and Liverpool fans need to be ready for that.
They sell Brendan Rodgers portraits in IKEA?
Has come out with this beauty today:
Actually Rodgers is attempting to bring Liverpool back to a more successful playing style. Liverpool played a pass and move game but Houllier and Benitez moved us to a more counter attacking game. I think Rodgers is trying to go back to a passing domination game but whether he can with the current crop of players is his issue.
Why is he then playing Johnson at leftback?
Are those brown envelopes of his made out of hemp?
What LB's do they have?
Luis Enrique, who doesn't start, Rodgers prefers to keep Johnson at LB with young Andre Wisdom at RB, due to Martin Kelly's injury.
Big comments about Johnson from Brendan but he really is underrated on here and in general across the nation. Easily England's best RB yet you still get people calling for Walker/Richards every time he starts a game for the national side.
I don't understand why he doesn't go with Johnson at RB and Enrique at LB.
What would be the point in using the worlds best right back as a right back?
C'mon now, think logically!
I'd say if he's underrated on here then Rodgers has ridiculously over rated him with that comment, you've essentially put a player up for scrutiny and to now be constantly compared with the best in the world just to make some point about the squad.
Whilst it's probably not true about any Liverpool players, if he said it about another, for example Gerrard is up there with Xavi or something you'd kind of forgive it as Gerrard at 1 point was one of the best around but that's never the case for Johnson nor has it ever been. He's quite good going forward but defensively he is very very dodgy and seems to get caught out of posistion quite regularly.
I'm not a big fan of Walker or Richards, infact I think that place is really open in the England squad but them 2 are probably much better defensively than Johnson is and are not much worse going forward really. As had been said if he was THAT good at right back he simply wouldn't be switched to left back, you'd do all you could to put him in the position where he's the second best player in the world.
Glen Johnson is simply an awful defender. Absolutely atrocious at it. Offensively he's a threat but, after a good record at Pompey and a bright start for Liverpool, he hasn't been that productive for a while now.
The thing about him being a bad defender has gone too far. Atrocious? Nowhere near. Watch Kyle Walker and you'll see he probably makes more mistakes than Johnson does. It's a bit frustrating how he has this tag of being a dodgy defender because for Liverpool he's solid. He's prone to the occasional brainfart/bad positioning but even Alves can be accused of being defensively negligent at times.
In any case, you have to consider what people want from a modern fullback. It's a lot more than stopping crosses. Johnson as a footballer is well ahead of both Walker and Richards and there's a reason as to why consecutive England managers have kept him in the team. Maybe Richards is a better defender but going forward he offers much less.
As for him being switched to LB, that's more out of necessity than anything, because Enrique is brain dead and we have no other options there.
Johnson is not a good right back. You're deluding yourself. Every Liverpool supporter I know bemoans the lack of quality all through your side, and Johnson best typifies it for them.
Grossly overrated and extremely average. And they cost your side games.
The fact that Rodgers asks Johnson to do a job at left-back, when he has, supposedly, a perfectly 'capable' one in the Jose Enrique, shows how much he rates the lad. It also sets down a marker for Enrique: Up your game or else.
To suggest he's an awful defender is total bollocks. I'd struggle to think of too many occasions where he's let Liverpool down.
To suggest he's an awful defender is total bollocks. I'd struggle to think of too many occasions where he's let Liverpool down.
He was very poor in Podolski's goal earlier this season at Anfield, but in fairness, he's genuinely not been a bad player at all for a long time now. He's by no means an awful defender.
Hes better going forward than he is defending.
But to be fair, so are both our starting full backs, and pretty much all the highly rated full backs in world football, the games changed, adequate in defence but very good on the front foot are whats required these days it seems.
But to be fair, so are both our starting full backs, and pretty much all the highly rated full backs in world football, the games changed, adequate in defence but very good on the front foot are whats required these days it seems.
He's not a bad player at all. A modern full back, as many have said. But he is a poor defender, in relative terms. His positioning isn't good and once his pace goes he's going to look even more exposed.
Kyle Walker's ridiculously overated too to be fair. He's shocking defensively and not actually that good at football.
Johnson's a crap defender but a lot of fullbacks are these days, and he at least poses a genuine threat when he's supporting the wide player. That said, he was getting on my fecking nerves in the Euros. He just doesn't concentrate at all when the opposition have the ball
Johnson's a crap defender but a lot of fullbacks are these days, and he at least poses a genuine threat when he's supporting the wide player. That said, he was getting on my fecking nerves in the Euros. He just doesn't concentrate at all when the opposition have the ball
There was one game earlier this season when he was playing more offensive then their right wing, they mocked him on MOTD, it was really hilarious to watch. I can't remember what game was that, but they conceeded two or three goals because of him staying in attack.
To be fair SOT some Liverpool players just cant be good enough. You have been struggling for three years now and you have to admit that some of the players you are playing are responsible for that.
I have never understood the over under-rating of Johnson.
He is a pretty good full back imo and one of the best in England.
Not many full-backs are defensively as good as they were years before.
He is a pretty good full back imo and one of the best in England.
Not many full-backs are defensively as good as they were years before.
That's the ultimate vilification of English fullbacks
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