Brentan Rodgers

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Kentonio said:
Much as I hate the pompous idiot, I can't critisize him for resting players. They were always going to get thumped by Real, and if he'd put out full strength last night and then again on Saturday and got hammered in both, we'd have been (rightly) calling him a fool for not rotating.
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I totally agree with this, BUT, you can't have ago at Balotelli for "not having the right attitude" the game before with that whole shirt swapping debacle (which I thought was massively blown out of proportion), when he pretty much decided the league was more important, or they weren't going to get a win and played a second string side against the best team in their group. Think it was just a bit hypocritical of him.

That being said, they played defensively very well, so that's encouraging for them. They never looked like scoring though, so at 1-0 it looked like they could possibly get something, but realistically were never troubling Varane and Ramos. I'd say Casillias as well, but he literally had F* all to do.
 
I don't think we know what's going on here until we see the team for Saturday and what kind of result they get. If it's not a good result then his next team presumably changes again and people will start to think he doesn't know what he's doing.

Enough credit in the bank to get away with (narrow) losses to Real & Chelsea. Can see patience wearing a bit thin if he's faffing about unsuccessfully v Palace (a), Ludo (a), Stoke (h) and Leicester (a) which are the fixtures after the international break.

Balotelli is his problem for Saturday, you'd presume Stevie gets back in somewhere wouldn't you?
 
montpelier said:
I don't think we know what's going on here until we see the team for Saturday and what kind of result they get. If it's not a good result then his next team presumably changes again and people will start to think he doesn't know what he's doing.

Enough credit in the bank to get away with (narrow) losses to Real & Chelsea. Can see patience wearing a bit thin if he's faffing about unsuccessfully v Palace (a), Ludo (a), Stoke (h) and Leicester (a) which are the fixtures after the international break.

Balotelli is his problem for Saturday,you'd presume Stevie gets back in somewhere wouldn't you?
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Unless Stevie Me is genuinely unfit, he'll play.
 
JUPITER said:
Many Chelsea fans would've said the exact same thing about Rafa.

If Rodgers was sacked tomorrow, Moyes would be high up the list of available candidates, that's the reality.
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No he wouldn't be and no it's not.
 
JUPITER said:
Many Chelsea fans would've said the exact same thing about Rafa.

If Rodgers was sacked tomorrow, Moyes would be high up the list of available candidates, that's the reality.
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:lol: no chance. Moyes is damaged goods for the time being for any top English club
 
Have Liverpool ever employed a former Everton manager?*


*Hodgson doesn't count.
 
Thisistheone said:
@NoPace One of the journo's compared Rodgers mentality last night to Moyes at Everton when he said all he wanted was to get out of Old Trafford alive. I can see what he means. Rodgers basically threw the towel in and apparently it didn't go down to well in Madrid. Ancelotti & his staff were bemused by the whole thing, according to Balage. Ludogorets almost got something v Madrid so why not Liverpool?

Having said that, I can see why Rodgers did it. He's clearly desperate to beat Mourinho Saturday after what happened last season. They have a chance as well with Chelsea playing away tonight and then a lunch-time kick-off Saturday at a pumped up Anfield, looking for revenge.
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Moyes went like 50 games without winning away at a top 4 side. If Rodgers does this for year and years, that's one thing, but this was one game and he rested Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho only, really. Gerrard or Balotelli away at Madrid would have probably been a mistake and led to more goals conceded.

The problem is they don't have enough good players to rotate, or even start.
 
NoPace said:
Moyes went like 50 games without winning away at a top 4 side. If Rodgers does this for year and years, that's one thing, but this was one game and he rested Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho only, really. Gerrard or Balotelli away at Madrid would have probably been a mistake and led to more goals conceded.

The problem is they don't have enough good players to rotate, or even start.
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I don't see how Balotelli playing would lead to more goals being conceeded.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
No idea. Moyes wouldn't even be considered as an option though, I do know that.
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If he was free, he would certainly be considered! The board would have different considerations that are far more realistic and far less emotional than those of the fanbase.

And I'd genuinely like to hear who you think would be the top 5 available candidates.
 
JUPITER said:
If he was free, he would certainly be considered.

And I'd genuinely like to hear who you think would be the top 5 available candidates.
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He really wouldn't be. There's not a chance our owners would want Moyes, and that's before they consider the shit storm they'd cause if he was hired.

Dunno who the top 5 on their list would be. Doubt there would be too many big names though, the owners seem to want a young, progressive manager. That's why Roberto Martínez and Rodgers were two of the top candidates last time.
 
NoPace said:
Moyes went like 50 games without winning away at a top 4 side. If Rodgers does this for year and years, that's one thing, but this was one game and he rested Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho only, really. Gerrard or Balotelli away at Madrid would have probably been a mistake and led to more goals conceded.

The problem is they don't have enough good players to rotate, or even start.
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No, he rested Lovren, Johnson, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho, Balotelli, Sterling.

They set-up like Levante or some other small La Liga side who just sit back and come away with nothing, happy that it's not a cricket score. Where's the ambition?

Rodgers spent £130m in the summer on top of the big bucks he's spent in the previous 18 months. If Van Gaal is in the same scenario next year and fields a team along the lines of De Gea, Blackett, McNair, Evans, Valencia, Carrick, Young, Cleverley, Januzaj, Wilson, Perreira, so that he can save our best players for a league game, we'd be pretty pissed off, right?

He's gunning for Chelsea on Saturday, that's obvious. But it's also a bit strange. It's November not April so Saturday isn't even that big a game.
 
As well as being incredibly small time it was a also a very risky move from Rodgers - because if they lose to Chelsea he'll now come under massive scrutiny for BOTH losses, whereas before doing this no-one would've even expected them to get anything against Chelsea.

He's starting to make the kind of odd, nervy decisions that managers make when they're coming undone and feeling pressure.
 
Rednotdead said:
He believed his own publicity from last season far too much,
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Is this based on anything or just pulled out of your arse?

Minimalist said:
Well of course Captain Obvious but most Liverpool supporters were dreading the absolute worst and will, I'm sure, have been somewhat relieved that it wasn't a mauling after all. Forget the team-sheet and just offer them a 1-0 competitive loss before kick off and most would have bitten your hand off.
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Nah. I would never take a 1-0 loss in a game unless it's a two legged tie and we're up 2-0 going into the second leg.

JUPITER said:
Many Chelsea fans would've said the exact same thing about Rafa.

If Rodgers was sacked tomorrow, Moyes would be high up the list of available candidates, that's the reality.
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No he wouldn't.

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Who else are they gonna get? And remember that we're talking about a club who gave Woy his last club job, a club who spent 35m on Andy Carroll.

Kenny and Moyesy are part of the same old-boy's network and in English football that lot'll stick together through anything. And Moyes would bend over backwards to get that job, it'd probably be his dream job at the moment. He'd fit at Liverpool.

Seriously, if I was a Liverpool fan I'd certainly be aware that this could be a potential reality.

He certainly did a better job in Europe than Brendan's doing thus far!
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Mental.
 
Cassidy said:
I don't see how Balotelli playing would lead to more goals being conceeded.
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Borini put in a shift and retained possession when he picked it up in his own half. Balo would presumably have been a bit lazier, as he doesn't look very sprightly these days.

I figured Lovren was benched because he's been so bad lately. The other changes were minor. Gerrard as a DM at the Bernabeu for 90 minutes doesn't have a happy ending, whereas Lucas is at least a proper shield.

I don't trust Glen Johnson a whit.

I figured it was partly for rest and partly a response to how poor many of the Liverpool players - who are not exactly world class players who deserve times to sort out their form - have been lately. I'm probably wrong, though. But I'd be playing Manquillo instead of Johnson and Sakho instead of Lovren for long-term development reasons anyways if it's close in terms of form. At least those guys have talent and time on their side.
 
Thisistheone said:
. If Van Gaal is in the same scenario next year and fields a team along the lines of De Gea, Blackett, McNair, Evans, Valencia, Carrick, Young, Cleverley, Januzaj, Wilson, Perreira, so that he can save our best players for a league game, we'd be pretty pissed off, right?
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Our 2nd choice lineup, with the top 2 strikers out and with the weakest attacking midfielder starter (Lallana), first choice GK (Mignolet), LB (Moreno) and RCB (Skrtel)) without any signings and with Nani or Zaha back with us having 10ish extra CL games:

----------Wilson/Chicharito--------
Januzaj----Mata-----Nani/Zaha
-----Carrick---Fellaini------
Shaw--Mcnair-Jones/Smalling-Valencia
------------De Gea----------

We have better players than Liverpool.

That's not even that bad a lineup. It's hard to discuss these things because our team is always so injured all the time.
 
JUPITER said:
If Rodgers was sacked tomorrow, who do you reckon would be club's top 5 available candidates?
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1.Dalgleish (again)
2.Bloke with a Perm and a Tash
3. Big Sam (Can sign Andy Carroll again)
4. Steve Clark
5. Harry Redknapp (outsider)
 
Why are we discussing the possibility of him even being sacked? He'll have this year and one year more unless he does a Woy (which he won't).
 
BarneyLFC said:
Why are we discussing the possibility of him even being sacked? He'll have this year and one year more unless he does a Woy (which he won't).
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Becuase the chances of him doing a 'Woy' seem to be getting bigger with each game you play.
 
JUPITER said:
Many Chelsea fans would've said the exact same thing about Rafa.

If Rodgers was sacked tomorrow, Moyes would be high up the list of available candidates, that's the reality.
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Don't be so 'kin stupid, that's so wrong on many levels

If Rodgers was sacked, and I don't think he will be anytime soon, Liverpool will not employ a manager that man utd sacked. The fans would never buy into it.

Personally I think they'd try and get koeman or someone of that ilk
 
golden_blunder said:
Don't be so 'kin stupid, that's so wrong on many levels

If Rodgers was sacked, and I don't think he will be anytime soon, Liverpool will not employ a manager that man utd sacked. The fans would never buy into it.

Personally I think they'd try and get koeman or someone of that ilk
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Yeah....Scousers love Southampton.

Moyes manager of Liverpool?!.....We can but dream. Will never happen though and have no idea why people are suggesting it
 
They shouldn't sack Rodgers until he's had the benefit of organizing another winning transfer window that can guide the club over the next 5 seasons.
 
golden_blunder said:
Don't be so 'kin stupid, that's so wrong on many levels

If Rodgers was sacked, and I don't think he will be anytime soon, Liverpool will not employ a manager that man utd sacked. The fans would never buy into it.

Personally I think they'd try and get koeman or someone of that ilk
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Do you actually remember the reaction of Chelsea fans when Rafa was first rumoured to take over them? They were going mental - protesting, booing, banners at his first game. It was a seething reaction, but the club knew better than the fans.

These kinds of appointments do happen. And like it or not, Moyes is the top English manager who's available - of course the board would at least CONSIDER him.

Koeman wouldn't go there, he's got a better chance of finishing top 4 with Southampton than he would at 'pool. Martinez wouldn't go there. Harry's worse than Moyes.

Big Sam's a good shout though.
 
BarneyLFC said:
If Rodgers was sacked (he won't be) we'll bring in De Boer or someone like that.
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Much will depend on your final league position. If you finish 7th or worse, the pressure will be on and questions will be asked why the Suarez money wasn't spent more effectively.
 
Raoul said:
They shouldn't sack Rodgers until he's had the benefit of organizing another winning transfer window that can guide the club over the next 5 seasons.
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We won't need him to when Rossiter, Wilson, Ibe, Kent and Ojo break through.
 
JUPITER said:
Do you actually remember the reaction of Chelsea fans when Rafa was first rumoured to take over them? They were going mental - protesting, booing, banners at his first game. It was a seething reaction, but the club knew better than the fans.

These kinds of appointments do happen. And like it or not, Moyes is the top English manager who's available - of course the board would at least CONSIDER him.

Koeman wouldn't go there, he's got a better chance of finishing top 4 with Southampton than he would at 'pool. Martinez wouldn't go there. Harry's worse than Moyes.

Big Sam's a good shout though.
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Why do you keep banging on about available managers? Managers regularly walk away from contracts.

Like it or not, they have history and a lot of managers would still fancy the challenge of turning them around. That's why I find some of the posts in here ridiculous. Moyes? Big Sam? Harry? Do you guys seriously believe what you're typing?

I don't like Rodgers, I despise Liverpool but bring some sense to the threads ffs
 
Think this Jupiter guy has a very apt username, definitely on another planet.
 
I think Moyes would be in my 5 of most unlikely just underneath The Owl getting another go and SAF getting talked out of retirement to go there.
 
golden_blunder said:
Why do you keep banging on about available managers? Managers regularly walk away from contracts.

Like it or not, they have history and a lot of managers would still fancy the challenge of turning them around. That's why I find some of the posts in here ridiculous. Moyes? Big Sam? Harry? Do you guys seriously believe what you're typing?

I don't like Rodgers, I despise Liverpool but bring some sense to the threads ffs
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I don't think Rodgers will be sacked or anything and this is more for discussion purposes, but you list those 3 as if they're ridiculous, when Liverpool's last few managers have been Rodgers (who hadn't done much prior to his appointment), Dalglish and Roy. Not exactly huge pedigree between the three of them, from my point of view. Moyes I think is a ridiculous call because of Utd and Everton, but I don't think Redknapp or Big Sam (the latter a bit more so, maybe) are completely crazy calls.
 
With Dalglish they were swayed by the fans wishes too much, sentimentality ruled.

I genuinely believe they will get a foreign manager next time.
 
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