He doesn't have good dribbling skills. Even his YouTube highlight reels shows a lack of control.
He likely will improve, but he isn't needed now.
Breel Embolo | Signed for Schalke
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He likely will improve, but he isn't needed now.
He's a poor man's Memphis Depay.
We already have the better version.
We already have the better version.
...and that's not saying much.
From my (very limited) knowledge, he strikes me as a player that would be nice to sign, but we shouldn't kick ourselves if we don't get him, as there's other young wingers with similar potential out there (that might even cost less).
But Martial and Rashford occupy different positions to Embolo. He can play RW whereas those other two can't or haven't played enough on that side. Let me ask you another question, if the reports for Ounas are true, would you say no to that as well because Lingard and Januzaj can play there ?
Schalke have quite a few players that were in the "Highly Rated" category. The likes of Goretzka, Weis, Max Meyer were all expected to have big careers eventually. They even have Hojberg from Munich. A poster who follows them mentioned that their careers have mostly stalled due to Schalke's wild inconsistency and that they were better off at other clubs than Schalke. The same could be said for Sane as well. I don't know why Embolo would want to go to such a club. He may get more game time, but it might not necessarily mean better development.
Rashford can play RW as well and would be there quite a bit given that the striker position will be occupied by Ibra. Lingard can as well. So that wouldn't leave Embolo much room for playing time, if that's what he is after.
You must be suggesting he can play there from his U18 and U16 days since I don't think he has actually played there for the main team. If Miki comes in, he's not even going to play RW. What about Ounas then ? Should we not sign him (If we are signing him in the first place) because of the same reasoning ?
I'm suggesting that if we punt on Embolo its for good reason - which is obviously that Mourinho doesn't rate him enough to fight to sign him. If he takes a different position on Ouanes or another player then he obviously has a different view on them and thinks he can use them before any of our existing options. If Mourinho doesn't Embolo then its time to move the discussion on towards other options. Its never about signing one player, its about helping the squad.
Yes, I agree. For so long it did seem that Mourinho did want him (If we are to believe reports) and the latest report mentioned that Embolo rejected United and not the other way around. This might be as you mentioned for getting more game time, but it did seem (Again, this is based on reports alone) Mourinho wanted him and it should indicate that he wanted to sign him as an important member of the squad. Ounas for all we know might have been just a back-up to Embolo. That's why I don't get the development of Rashford being used as a reason to not want to sign Embolo. The same reasoning can be used for Ounas as well. Rashford seems to be over-protected here on the Caf. I recall his development being used as a reason to not want to sign Zlatan as well early on (I don't need to tell you this anyway).
In any case, I did wish we had signed him. Hope he does well at Schalke.
How often have you seen him?
Enough, not just here but the Europa league.
Its a silly argument to try and make it out like the only reason someone doesnt rate a player is because they hardly watch them play.
His biggest strengths are his physical attributes. Thats usually the case with early developers, but their peers usually catch up later on.
Also considering the number of overhyped youngsters that have failed to make the grade, its more reasonable to say that he is not a certainty to make it. Statistically that is always the case.
Why does he ever need to have seen him play to make that statement? We are talking about a player who has made a limited impression in the Swiss League, the Europa League and at International level, not some uber talent who has taken the football world by storm. He wasn't even in the top 10 goals scorers in the Swiss League. At the age Embolo is now Michael Owen was top scorer in the Prem, yet some are acting as if we are missing out on some football prodigy.
At the age Embolo is, Im pretty sure Ronaldo wasnt scoring 50 goals a year. He is doing that effortlessly now. And also pretty sure he wasnt this prodigy from little wee old Portugal that the whole world was talking about.
That argument doesnt guarantee that Embolo will be a certainty to make it .
Its not a straightline trajectory to the top. In fact the opposite is usually true with most hyped youngsters(Messi being an exception). They show early promise but usually either regress or stay stagnant.
This Ronaldo argument is similar to another caf favourite,the Giggs-Guardiola one. Just because someone is at a similar level at a certain point of their career with some outlier doesnt mean they will end up at the same destination. Its why they are an outlier in the first place.
Well if a scout from a big club has watched him countless times and say he wont make it I will be more inclined to accept his opinion but not from a person who has quite possible never seen him play before.
I was just curious, because from what I've seen he's IMO a dead cert to become one of the best forwards. And I disagree about your assesment of his biggest strengths.
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Wenger tried to sign and SAF actually did sign him. But the point is the guy said he wasn't a certainty to make it. So comparisons with Ronaldo are irrelevant. Ronaldo wasn't a certainty to make it, but even so, some of the best managers in world football tried to sign him and he was playing in the Prem at 18. At 19 he was in the UEFA Team of the Year. He was also in Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament, a competion Embolo has been poor in. So even though the comparison isn't really releveant, Ronaldo was much better than Embolo.
I can honestly say I've never been so confident of someone being wrong about the future of a young player before.
Obviously this one wont be resolved for a few years, but time flies and I'm going to try and remember this one.
Good for you. People can be wrong. I might be on this one. I for one can live with being wrong. You should try to find something important to remember.
Our scouts watched him .
But our club weren't interested . An appeal to authority is an easy coput answer though
I'm now fairly certain that anyone who said we should sign him was talking out of their arse. I appreciate he'll be a bit nervous on the big stage but feck me he lacks so many technical qualities.
He's clearly the new Martial.
He's crap
Heskey-esque. Bucky's been brainwashed by Hydra.
I would be fuming if someone like him was taking playing time away from our youth players.
Why was everyone so excited by this on the first page?
It's just the usual suspects who watch regulary every player in the world, and by regulary I mean they have seen some 3 min video on youtube.
Terrible player.
Bravo. I definitely admit he's been poor during this tournament, but he's nowhere near his best.
Been a bit shite alright. Turns out the caf super scouts have got it wrong again
Please sign him Schalke.
I'd fancy Rashford on the rightside more than Embolo
Hard to evaluate him on just this tournament but he does look like a raw, work in progress who will require a couple of years to see whether he's got it or not. Schalke do seem like the apporpriate destination at this time.
Was one of the first to call him out as shite and have not changed my mind one bit. Looks like a donkey at this stage of his career.
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All he seems to be doing is those infinite stepovers.
Look at that first page
It's so tragic.Look at that first page
Rashford on the wing would be a complete waste imo especially the right flank. He mostly played there for the youth teams if I am not mistaken before the coaches felt he was more effective as a striker. Memphis can be a good RW though. It would cut out his tendency to move towards the centre and he has a beast of a right foot which would be great for crosses.
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