We will know more after the Euros.
Breel Embolo | Signed for Schalke
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Mane is 24, so that is quite young. He will cost maybe 10-15m euros more but we know exactly what we will get as he is settled in the league. And since when has money been a problem for United?
Also on your other point on ceiling we currently have Adnan and Memphis who both are young and have high ceilings, but that is not helping United in the immediate future.
I can't begin to describe how inconsequential "knows the league" has become. It's essentially just a three-word tax that inflates the value of a player by like 40%. It doesn't even guarantee success. The lesson to be learned from guys like Kante, Mahrez, Mane, etc. is that with proper scouting and player development, you don't need to suffer through the painful negotiations resulting in a massive fee and high wages that domestic transfers seem to always bring.
That's probably because of the Euros. I can't see any club doing any reasonable business with players involved in the competition tbh. Atleast not until their team is knocked out. The Swiss paper that first reported it seems reliable, since they don't have a habit of releasing such sort of news. The other source was one tied close to Leipzig, though I don't know how credible they are.
Depends on what we'd potentially be buying Embolo for, there is a chance we're not planning to drop him into the first team, actually buying for the future.
I agree. It's a horribly lazy cliche. Many of the best players to ever grace our league have come over from other leagues. Performing well has absolutely nothing to do with "knowing the league" and everything to do with the way they adapt to living in a different country and handling the pressure. Basically their mentality is of importance.
Exactly what I hope we are dong, you see Bayern and Dortmund for instance buying in these top your players as well but they are not likely to start every week, they will be developed over time as part of the squad, not automatic starters.
I would agree with this. People need to trust our scouting department more when it comes to these young players that are not as well known. The Martial deal should be proof that that our scouting department can find young talent that makes you say who at first but turn out to be good buys.
We got quotes from everywhere between £40-60m when we went in for him in January. With the increase of TV money and losing their manager, Southampton will ask for a much higher fee this summer. Personally, I don't think he's worth anywhere near £40m, he's so inconsistent and he's 24 so he's only got 2 years to iron out his flaws before he hits his prime, which I can't see him doing.
LvG knows about managing football team than anyone in here. So is Moyes. But many here thoughts they were incapable buffoon of managers.
We are here for discussion, and i don't think United scouring here reading opinions about their potential buy.
So let us discuss what we want to discuss, without resort to this kind of statement, though. It's so much fun. Don't you think so?
I don't see a reason to invest in another attacking player at the moment. Unless we go for a player that will start no matter what, we should invest in other areas.
Yes, you're probably right. Still, very exciting and I look forward to seeing him play over the next few weeks.
Content with Lingard/Mata as our wide right options?
I don't see the problem with this signing at all.
15-20m for a young prospect. You can't buy much for that price these days anyway. Worst case he fails, and we'd get our money back.
When you consider what some players have moved for recently (Sterling, Renato Sanches, Martial) then it's not even a risk
15-20m for a young prospect. You can't buy much for that price these days anyway. Worst case he fails, and we'd get our money back.
When you consider what some players have moved for recently (Sterling, Renato Sanches, Martial) then it's not even a risk
What? RW is the weakest position in our squad, we definitely need at least one new right winger if not two.
We spent the whole of last season, lambasting our paper thin attack. Now you say you don;t want attackers. I want as many as possible. I will be gutted if we don't bring at least three in.
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Seconded.
Sky Sports say that RB Leipzig are to sign Timo Werner which looks like Embolo's off to United - but that's purely speculation on my part
Probably what we brought martial to do originally but hey ho. Hopefully this is what we're doing.
We didnt lack numbers. We had Young, Adnan, Mata, Memphis, Lingard, Martial, Rooney, Rashford (Ander)to cover 3 or 4 spots
We need upgrades.. Players who will improve our attack now.
Long term projects are great... but the focus should be on getting players who will start and improve that attack.
We need upgrades.. Players who will improve our attack now.
Long term projects are great... but the focus should be on getting players who will start and improve that attack.
I've accepted this as a done deal. Think it will go through after the Swiss are knocked out of the euros.
I think so too, and I for one, am very excited at the potential frontline of Embolo/Rashford-Zlatan-Martial, and in the longer term, Embolo-Rashford-Martial... Add in Andre Gomes and maybe another CB and we have a wonderful squad with almost all the holes filled in IMO.
May I ask why you feel so confident on this? (not trying to be a dick I'm just curious)
That makes absolutely no sense. Our attack is awful and needs additions. If that includes players who are young but Mourinho feels suit the system them that's obviously what we should do. You can't refuse to improve your attack just because you're unable to sign a "guaranteed starter".
Yeah, Martial is an exception I think, he's that good. With Embolo I hope the plan is to make sure we have a stacked bench as well as a starting 11 as it was a problem last season, we didn't have any potential game changers on the bench in most games.
Rooney and Mata aren't attackers imo. Also Embolo is an upgrade on everyone on our right. His age also gives us the liscence to go after more experienced players.
I know they've had relatively poor seasons but that's a bit harsh
Anyway, from the YouTube compilation he seems rapid, strong and seems to have decent link up play. But I thought he was a striker? What's this about him playing on the right?
Ideally, I'd love for us to get Yarmolenko for the wide right position, it's always amazed me that he's stayed at Dynamo Kiev all these years and not been snapped up by one of the 'big' clubs. I suppose same with Krychowiak and Konoplyanka. Or get Mkhitaryan for the wide right spot if the Arsenal deal isn't done. Then, someone like Embolo can be an option off the bench when we are chasing games. Our bench this season was just depressing at times so would be good to change that.
I' m actually a bit worried that we're not being linked with any wide players. Surely, Mourinho sees the issue if morons like me can?
I actually like Mata but he's a midfielder. Not at attacker imo. Rooney's attacking instincts are dead.I know they've had relatively poor seasons but that's a bit harsh
Anyway, from the YouTube compilation he seems rapid, strong and seems to have decent link up play. But I thought he was a striker? What's this about him playing on the right?
Ideally, I'd love for us to get Yarmolenko for the wide right position, it's always amazed me that he's stayed at Dynamo Kiev all these years and not been snapped up by one of the 'big' clubs. I suppose same with Krychowiak and Konoplyanka. Or get Mkhitaryan for the wide right spot if the Arsenal deal isn't done. Then, someone like Embolo can be an option off the bench when we are chasing games. Our bench this season was just depressing at times so would be good to change that.
I' m actually a bit worried that we're not being linked with any wide players. Surely, Mourinho sees the issue if morons like me can?
Agreed about Mata though you and I both know Mourinho probably won't pick him, at least not as a regular starter. On Rooney, I'd wager he'll be a big part of Jose's plans at least to start with, things may obviously change. With that in mind, his display vs Russia at least allays SOME fears. Ultimately, I reckon we could do with better options than both in midfield. And I say that as a big Mata fan.
It's just the circumstances. Leipzig were deep in negotiations to sign him but then it seems we have stepped in. Obviously the only outlets that would run with this are Those in Germany, close to leipzig, because we will want to keep it under wraps. But we can't make Leipzig keep quiet.
Just to add further fuel to the fire, it seems Leipzig are now on their way to signing somebody else instead.
You don't learn first touch, how to dribble etc after 19 so yes i'll stick by my opinion. Thank you
Think Rooney will be used in midfield by Mourinho.
You do that, super scout.
Remember the days when Scholesy was crucified for his opinions on whether players could improve their technique? Nowadays it seems like every other poster shares his opinion.
Seems nailed on to be no10 at the moment.
Technique is literally practice. Its weird how people would argue you can practice free kicks and become a good free kick taker, but its unfamothable that you could do drills to improve your first touch or close control. Not to mention the stupidity of the post above saying his technique ceiling has been reached at 19.
Off course this!
Everybody can improve their technique with lots of practice as long as they aren't in physical decline. Common sense. To add when you're nineteen your body and muscles is still growing. It's no coincidence that many big and physical players improves both technique and timing with age and experience.
Regarding Embolo and Renato Sanches both have more than acceptable ball control if you add that their game is mostly built on speed and physique. Give them a couple of seasons at the highest level and we will probably see notable improvements regarding timing when they manage to balance their physical strengths with high speed and tempo.
Don't really see anything special about this lad. Seems to be a good athlete but an average enough footballer.
Thankfully the last couple of posts have pointed out that this is easily remedied by practice. Why didn't anybody think of it sooner? To think of all the average players who could have been great if they had only had the foresight to practice. If I was 10 years younger I might have had a chance myself
Thankfully the last couple of posts have pointed out that this is easily remedied by practice. Why didn't anybody think of it sooner? To think of all the average players who could have been great if they had only had the foresight to practice. If I was 10 years younger I might have had a chance myself
I agree if we do sign this lad I suspect something like
Embolo-------Rooney-------Martial
----------------Zlatan----------------
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