Questions like how to put powder in a pouch! 
I'm in splits here.
I'm in splits here.Television Breaking Bad
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I agree. Furthermore, Walter White seemed to know how to drive, yet I don't remember seeing him taking lessons or passing his driving test, so obviously there's no way he could possibly know how to drive. We even saw him teaching Walt Junior how to drive, yet that's completely implausible because Walter White couldn't possibly have known how to drive!
Shit! Never thought of that. The show will never be the same for me again.
Loved this soundtrack.
I don't know why some people are so stuck on the issue of how Walt ensured that Lydia would select that particular sachet, which he had filled with the ricin.
Very, very clearly in the episode there was only one sachet left at the table. Given that we've seen Lydia ask for additional sachets each and every time we have seen her at the coffee shop, it's quite clear she would use the one which was on the table and then she asked the waiter for some more.
All that Walt had to do was add the ricin to the sachet, reseal the sachet, place it in the little pot on the table and remove all the other sachets which had not been tampered with - done.
Really simple stuff, what's hard to understand?
Very, very clearly in the episode there was only one sachet left at the table. Given that we've seen Lydia ask for additional sachets each and every time we have seen her at the coffee shop, it's quite clear she would use the one which was on the table and then she asked the waiter for some more.
All that Walt had to do was add the ricin to the sachet, reseal the sachet, place it in the little pot on the table and remove all the other sachets which had not been tampered with - done.
Really simple stuff, what's hard to understand?
But we never saw him purchasing any glue!!!
I haven't followed this thread lately but NPR had a great 45 minute interview with two of the writers/producers.
http://www.npr.org/2013/10/03/228813142/breaking-bad-writers-this-is-it-theres-no-more
http://www.npr.org/2013/10/03/228813142/breaking-bad-writers-this-is-it-theres-no-more
Damn, I love how that is shot. Especially the shots from inside the RV. Brilliant.
As much as I don't care about the exact machinations of how he did it (he did it, thats all we need to know) I agree it's a rather crap plot convenience. Both obvious and impractical.
All the shit with Lydia was my least favorite part of the episode. That the last bit of dialogue in the whole series was the Lydia sub-plot being spelled out for idiots in giant neon letters, and her wheezing in a bed, is a shame. I didn't give a single solitary flying shit what happened to her. And it didn't really have a massive impact on the show. It was more a "we need to resolve the ricin plot we've Chekov's Gunned ourselves into" than an organic piece of great BB story telling.
All the shit with Lydia was my least favorite part of the episode. That the last bit of dialogue in the whole series was the Lydia sub-plot being spelled out for idiots in giant neon letters, and her wheezing in a bed, is a shame. I didn't give a single solitary flying shit what happened to her. And it didn't really have a massive impact on the show. It was more a "we need to resolve the ricin plot we've Chekov's Gunned ourselves into" than an organic piece of great BB story telling.
Idiots like nahealai who need everything spelled out in giant neon letters?
And how the feck did he open the ricin container? We never saw him unscrew it!
There are some smarmy bellends in this thread.
There are some smarmy bellends in this thread.
Don't be too harsh on yourself now.
I'm watching the episode Fly. Would love to watch the behind the scenes for that one!
Ok Nahealai, I will slowly explain to you that scene and give you a reasonable explanation of what went on; How he did it, how he knew which packet etc.
Every episode you watch of her in the cafe, she picks the same sugar, a white packet called Stevia. In the selection, there is only one packet left of that type. She then asks the Waiter for more Stevia, and then you see her pour it in. She asks Walt how he found them, he replies with 10am, every tuesday you come here to meet. He has obviously noticed everything in detail. Later when he calls her, he says he slipped the ricin into her sachet, specifically saying "feeling under the weather, like you got the flu? That would be the ricin I gave you. I slipped it into that Stevia crap you're always putting in your tea. So to explain how he knew she would use that sachet over any other, he says how he knew which one to put it in, and as there was only one of those packets left, not much other choice then.
As to putting it in, he could have made a tiny incision and put it in, he may have unsealed it and resealed it. Who knows. What we do know is that it isn't fecking important and you should use your bloody imagination!
Every episode you watch of her in the cafe, she picks the same sugar, a white packet called Stevia. In the selection, there is only one packet left of that type. She then asks the Waiter for more Stevia, and then you see her pour it in. She asks Walt how he found them, he replies with 10am, every tuesday you come here to meet. He has obviously noticed everything in detail. Later when he calls her, he says he slipped the ricin into her sachet, specifically saying "feeling under the weather, like you got the flu? That would be the ricin I gave you. I slipped it into that Stevia crap you're always putting in your tea. So to explain how he knew she would use that sachet over any other, he says how he knew which one to put it in, and as there was only one of those packets left, not much other choice then.
As to putting it in, he could have made a tiny incision and put it in, he may have unsealed it and resealed it. Who knows. What we do know is that it isn't fecking important and you should use your bloody imagination!
Well done, you just spent five minutes writing a paragraph explaining something that I've already said a brain-dead chimp could have deducted from the show.
So the real question I've asked - and one which I've had only slight issue with - still cannot be answered and we're told to "use our imaginations".
A task that was described to me by umpteen posters as being terribly "simple" to execute ("He's an evil genius, blah, blah, blah") still hasn't be properly explained a full day later.
Great.
For what it's worth, I don't particularly care for how Walt got the ricin in the sachet. The only reason I keep coming back to the argument is because others have been patronising with their arguments despite not proving or offering anything conclusive.
I can suspend belief whilst watching a television show no problem. I just raised the issue a few days ago in passing and predictably the fanbois came out of the woodwork to ridicule and condescend without bringing anything to the debate. It's depressingly predictable in this thread by now, but whatever.
I can suspend belief whilst watching a television show no problem. I just raised the issue a few days ago in passing and predictably the fanbois came out of the woodwork to ridicule and condescend without bringing anything to the debate. It's depressingly predictable in this thread by now, but whatever.
I dunno man, how to further simplify and explain the process of putting powder in a pouch.
What the actual feck?
It's things like this that drive Hollywood to dumb down movies until they are literally pants on head retarded.
It's not a plothole if the plot point is explained, it's just the mechanics that are left for the audience to wonder about (unless the mechanics are so unfeasible that it makes no sense- which this clearly isn't).
It's things like this that drive Hollywood to dumb down movies until they are literally pants on head retarded.
It's not a plothole if the plot point is explained, it's just the mechanics that are left for the audience to wonder about (unless the mechanics are so unfeasible that it makes no sense- which this clearly isn't).
What's funnier is that you have actually ignored what were plot holes worth pointing out and just stuck like a child with something so pointless.
Wow, you're a bit of a cock aren't you. It's like you want us to explain the meaning of life to you whilst we're at it. You just got a pretty well defined explanation, but you thought of taking the "I'm a prick, I'll ignore what you just said" route. Continue what you were doing, being ignorant that is.
He's been on a wind up, it's pretty damn obvious.
You've been given numerous explanations, you gimp.
It's not difficult thinking up methods of placing a tainted sugar sachet on a table.
What's funnier is that you have actually ignored what were plot holes worth pointing out and just stuck like a child with something so pointless.
What was pointless about it? Walt is arguably the finest stealth ninja on earth considering he successfully carried out not one, but two poisonings throughout the show, and it was never revealed exactly how he carried them out. (Granted, the Lydia one was spelled out in black and white, but how he managed to get the ricin in the sachet and ensure that she chose the exact same sachet wasn't.)
Really I believe my criticism is borne out of my assertion a few weeks ago that this half-season was a little too rushed. They had to fit too much in too little episodes, and I think it told towards the end.
Still a brilliant show, mind.
I'd have loved for Walt to have given some more exposition during the phone call with Lydia- would have been brilliant to see her face after he explains that he put the ricin in a small tear he made in the last remaining Stevia, before she went off to shit herself to death
I really didn't know you needed to be the finest stealth ninja to put powder in a pouch!How are you still not getting this part?
well we didn't see her die.. maybe she lived and went on to kill Walt's family?
By shitting all over them maybe? Another scene needed