I thought it was amazing how what Walt worked for in the past, took risks, killed people for - was suddenly taken away from him in a matter of minutes. How everything came crashing down around him with his brother-in-law getting killed in front of him pushing him over to the other side, indefinitely.
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Something I just remembered - Jesse told the Nazi's where to find his taped evidence. I guess Marie can expect a visit from them soon.
Mike really screwed up when he claimed to have checked out Todd's prison contacts.
Mike really screwed up when he claimed to have checked out Todd's prison contacts.
Yeah but we have to consider Mike's perspective. He wasn't the kinda guy to fear people or underestimate them. He was a fecking ace and would have took Hank down one-on-one I reckon had it ever come to that. Just as a comparison of two major bad-asses.
Why would they visit Marie and potentially incriminate themselves? She know's nothing about them and as far as i'm aware they have absolutely no reason to suspect she know's anything about them.
Well, Mike was right on one part - Walt is a ticking time bomb.
Great episode, as expected.
I just can't take Walt Jr seriously. I laugh everytime I see his face.
I just can't take Walt Jr seriously. I laugh everytime I see his face.
I'd say he completely underestimated Todd's prison connections.
"Don't worry, I checked em out. He's just flexing."
Heull is still in a DEA safehouse.
Oh, I thought you meant the tape recording of the phone call Walt made. Yeah, that'd make sense....
Pretty sure they just hired somewhere for that....dunno how long has passed, but he's possibly back with Saul now, I mean they know Hank was working unofficially.
In fairness I think Ivor was being slightly facetious. I thought it was quite funny actually
Just throwing this out there but is it absolutely certain, beyond belief that Mike is actually dead? I'm not trying to make sense of why he would or would not be dead, nor am I looking to discuss it's relevance.
As far as I can remember the only time was during the conversation between Walt and Jesse, where Jesse assumed Mike was. In that instance, you could only assume yourself that Jesse made the assumption, based on his non verbal communication. Or was there another time where Walt confirmed Mike was dead.
I just can't remember.
As far as I can remember the only time was during the conversation between Walt and Jesse, where Jesse assumed Mike was. In that instance, you could only assume yourself that Jesse made the assumption, based on his non verbal communication. Or was there another time where Walt confirmed Mike was dead.
I just can't remember.
The best hour of television i've ever seen.
I agree with some posters that this episode is a finale on its own, at least as far as his family is concerned, he cleared skyler with that phone call, hank is dead and they have holly back, can't see much progress happening on that front.
It'll be interesting to see whether they'll give Jesse a happy ending or not, i think his story deserves a good conclusion.
Most people here expect walt to get his revenge on the Nazi's and then die of cancer or get killed, if the writers can manage to spin this any other way i'll be astonished.
I agree with some posters that this episode is a finale on its own, at least as far as his family is concerned, he cleared skyler with that phone call, hank is dead and they have holly back, can't see much progress happening on that front.
It'll be interesting to see whether they'll give Jesse a happy ending or not, i think his story deserves a good conclusion.
Most people here expect walt to get his revenge on the Nazi's and then die of cancer or get killed, if the writers can manage to spin this any other way i'll be astonished.
No actually wait...yeah he's dead. There was a brief shot of his corpse in the trunk of Walt's car
I felt slightly short changed. Don't get me wrong, it was a great episode. But it was only the other day I read here that one of the producers or writers or someone said that Walt would do something so unforgivable in this episode that even his most die hard fans would turn against him. I don't see what he did in this episode that is so unforgivable compared to anything else he's done unless its to do with him telling Jesse about watching Jane die.
I spent half the episode wondering if that was the unforgivable thing. Then when Skylar was holding the knife I thought he was going to end up killing her, then when the baby kept saying mama I thought he might end up killing her. Although I wouldn't have thought any of those things if that stupid producer/writer/director whoever she was didn't say anything.
Fwiw, I didn't want the baby to die of course. Although the way she said mamama was annoying, not half as annoying as Walt Jr though. But even I didn't want him to die at the hands of his own father, so I wouldn't mind Jesse coming and shooting him or something.
Or if you hadn't read it.
Yeah or if I hadn't read it, really wish I hadn't read it.
Better than her on screen brother, too.
Show should end with Jesse doing the deed, killing Walt after Walts sorted the Nazis and decides to let him free after realizing he's a semi-decent kid really and everything that's ended him up where he's at is his fault not Jesses or hand him in.....but just butchers him instead, finally doing something truly bad of his accord and not being egged on by Walt/someone else to do it. (I don't consider minor drug dealing that big of a deal).
Walt CAN forgive Jesse, but it's impossible to other way round, it's the only ending I think for the Walt dying angle, they can do other stuff too, but I won't feel it's right Walt dying by anyone else or by Jesse in a cheap way.
Walt CAN forgive Jesse, but it's impossible to other way round, it's the only ending I think for the Walt dying angle, they can do other stuff too, but I won't feel it's right Walt dying by anyone else or by Jesse in a cheap way.
My word that was some cracking tv.Kudos to all the actors involved in that. Everyone brought their A game. Thought they resolved the A-Team gun battle last week in a satisfactory manner (still a little odd that they didn't at least peak with the Hank thing) but after that just wow, new levels of cuntishness from Walt...but at the same time Cranston played it so well that you felt his pain as everything slipped away from him.
Phenomenal 45 minutes of television.
Incredible TV from start to finish.
Cranston during the phone call was simply unbelievable.
I'm not sure I'll ever see anything to match The Wire but this ain't exactly far off.
Cranston during the phone call was simply unbelievable.
I'm not sure I'll ever see anything to match The Wire but this ain't exactly far off.
I thought the way Jr threw his arm across his mother was a great touch, and for once gave the actor/character something properly significant and a tiny bit badass to do.
Still, people are always going to bitch if they insist on treating these characters like rival boyband members.
Still, people are always going to bitch if they insist on treating these characters like rival boyband members.
Anyone else thought she might be going for the phone for a second?
Hah, I knew it would work well if they did that. Had they simply killed him off immediately it would have been daft. But this is breaking bad and the idea of letting him survive the previous episode, give him a possible lifeline at the start of this one and then that get smashed to pieces, was well done.
I'm not sure what's wrong with what I said? They gave him a proper send off around 15 minutes in, after the opening sequence. I said they wouldn't just kill him off straight away, they didn't.
Take it we will be fast forwarding a year now
In fairness I think Ivor was being slightly facetious. I thought it was quite funny actually
Cheers Kinks, I didn't think I'd have to explain I didn't actually want a baby to die though
The show is really not as deep as you guys are making it seem.
It's as deep as I'd like it to be.
Nah, they said Holly is 18 months so the flashforward is only around 4 months away.
Although I'm not sure where those five months since Walt left the business at the end of season 5a and the events in that episode went...
We still need to see what happens to the house. I assume next week will be more of a set up than the last 2 tour de forces. I'd even guess that Cranston may not be in it much.
Sounds about right. Though I still think Walt Jr may have a part to play here. We'll inevitably see the family reunited again but Skyler's now back to sympathising/semi-supporting Walt whereas I can see Walt Jr being so heartbroken that he lashes out at his dad in some form. His own son being the one to put the final nail in the coffin wouldn't really be a cop-out in any form IMO, although it might be a bit extreme to think that could push him so far off the edge.