Its all about emotions. Some people are reserved, others are not. Culture play a part in it too. I've seen people who had been supporting United for more then half a century sending players to feck off. These people had kept their supporters club alive by digging deep in their pockets at a time when the club/the country they lived in wasnt fairly too great. Believe me, they dont need Eyepopper or Roy Keane to teach them what supporting your club means.
Booing our players...
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Its all about emotions. Some people are reserved, others are not. Culture play a part in it too. I've seen people who had been supporting United for more then half a century sending players to feck off. These people had kept their supporters club alive by digging deep in their pockets at a time when the club/the country they lived in wasnt fairly too great. Believe me, they dont need Eyepopper or Roy Keane to teach them what supporting your club means.
Well that's not what I said is it?
Anyway this is pointless, you seem to only follow football so you can have a good old moan about it at every opportunity so we'll never agree.
When have they ever booed a player off at OT before?
As I said people express their feeling in different ways. If a player cant take the pressure then they shouldn't be in the job in the first place.
Bit of a generalisation there my friend. The boos stemmed from the south stand (general plastics and trippers) but also parts of the stretty, so by no means isolated pockets. First game of the season we had idiots booing Moyes. I'm not being no top red here but fans like that should just feck off.
I am talking at the supporters club or when I went with them to Matches. Honestly I've never heard booing players how ever the usual 'feck off' statements were common.
So if Januzai frustrates the crowd at OT next time out the crowd are perfectly entitled to boo him off the pitch and if he can't handle that it's his problem?
I personally don't agree with booing myself. However as I said, people expresses their feelings in different ways. As long as its legal to do so (ie it doesn't entail racism or threatening etc) then they have every right to do so.
Now If a player cant handle that then I guess he's in the wrong job. Believe me he'll meet far worse than that in football.
I have yet to hear about a player who retired because of it to be honest. Actually some had used criticism as an incentive to get better. Batistuta and Cannavaro springs into mind.
Other than racism getting booed by your own supporters at a home game is probably the worst thing a player will experience.
Shocking and embarrassing
I still can't believe an emotional reaction from people at the game is getting more abuse than the lamentable attitude of one of our players.
How many would you think had their confidence destroyed by it and never been what they might have been had their supporters got behind them.
No where have I said people shouldn't get frustrated or scream a bit of abuse in the heat of the moment. Booing a player off is something quite different though, and in my book something only a complete fecking tool would do. I'd go so far as to say its fans like that that ruin the game and everyone would be better off if they just fecked off, go play golf or something.
Do you think so?
What about opposition targeting fiery characters in a bid to send them off? Or divers constantly falling in the box in a bid to get the defender into trouble? Or the insults said behind the ref backs to piss players off?
Not to forget those players who target a player fresh from injury in a bid to either get him send off or injuring him (Kohler vs Van Basten issue springs to mind).
Football is a tough world
Poor things. I hope that Nani wont commit suicide after the booing he received. Feckin hell, I am sure that he's now regretting choosing football as a profession in the first place.
You've no idea then, thought so.
Awful. Was absolutely furious when it happened.
He hadn't even played that badly. Got us the assist for the first goal.
If you did it or you condone it, rethink your position as a united fan. That's not what someone does when they want to get behind a team.
He hadn't even played that badly. Got us the assist for the first goal.
If you did it or you condone it, rethink your position as a united fan. That's not what someone does when they want to get behind a team.
Booing your own players is completely retarded. Not really sure how anyone can think otherwise or excuse it as anything else.
What you have listed above is all part of football and players learn to cope with those things, getting booed by your fans isn't normal.
I'm not even having a moan, just pointing out the flaws in the apparent outrage on here.
The idea that United fans giving their own players stick is a "new low" or something new at all is hilariously wrong. I've been at a game before where Macheda was getting shit from the fans all game for no other reason than because he'd been put in the team. He wasn't even doing anything wrong and there's no way he wasn't hearing it because it was most of the fecking stand at it. It must have destroyed him.
Compared to that on the twattishness or "low" scale, Nani getting booed by a few people for legitimately being a dick when he's more than experienced enough to know better, doesn't even register. It's not even up there with the person in every single row who spends the entire game having a go at Carrick.
I've never agreed with booing your own team. I wasn't brought up to do that.
The best way to lift a team is to sing and get behind them.
The best way to lift a team is to sing and get behind them.
It's good to act like a spastic all the time.
Nani in United's matchday programme for yesterday.
Made me laugh a bit!
it's also not what anyone is saying.
Were Macheda or Carrick ever booed off? If not how is it relevant. Unless you're suggesting there's no difference between people screaming the odd bit of abuse and a player being roundly booed off.
Meh I guess different people have different expectations, I've always thought crowds booing was and incredibly fecking small time, stupid thing to do and til yesterday I'd never heard it at OT.... hence IMO a new low.
I'm not crying for the players, but the fans who do it are still dicks.
It's like how I feel about, say, hunting. Yes animals get killed all the time in nature, and there are circumstances when it's expedient for us to kill them - I'm no vegetarian, and can't really complain about animals dying. But for me, anybody who gets pleasure from going round killing them is fecked up in the head.
You can take the "victim" out of it, and still judge the behavior as wrong.
Yes it is! It was you who used the term "new low"...you use it again later in reference to yourself using it this very same post!
I'm just saying it isn't, and pointing out that actually it isn't the spoilt, glory hunter type fans it tends to stem from anyway
Of course it's relevant. Taking the Macheda situation for example. What do you think is worse for a player or the team, an experienced player being booed for being a dick after he's already been subbed off, or a young player being given dogs abuse by his own fans whilst on the pitch and trying to play well, for no other reason than because the fans don't like the fact the manager has put him there?
It's not even the first time United fans have booed. THey booed roundly after the cup game at home to Exeter, they booed after we lost 3-1 to Chelsea in 2005, in a game we didn't even play that badly in. Accoridng to Fergie, they booed Fletcher and O'Shea before a game. They went through a spell of booing Ryan Giggs, for feck sake! Fans do these things. In a lot of cases it's retarded, but then so is a lot of stuff fans do or say.
Noodle your acting as if the people who we're booing yesterday and the prats who go over the top with abuse aren't the same bunch of muppets.
How often does that happen? People have a moan while watching, most of the time it's eerily similar to our match day thread, but you make it sound like they collectively shout out abuse at players. And it's certainly not loud or coordinated enough for the player to hear it. Being booed is far worse for the player than a few random moans.
When Nani left the pitch he would have most certainly sensed that the crowd were pleased that he'd been removed.However, I actually believe that most people were cheering and applauding the decision to hook him off rather than booing him, and so it wasn't as hate filled an exit as most think! There were boos of course and it wasn't good to hear but I am sure it was more frustration at the team and scoreline in general.
I was 2 rows from the front. He was standing barely further away from it than I was at times. Of course he could fecking hear it, and I've already told you it's happened to a degree at every single game I've ever been to. De Gea was another favourite target during his first season...usually when we were defending corners and the people dishing it out were sat no more than a few metres from him.
A mate sat in the same seat I used to for the game against Norwich last season and Ruddy tried to offer him out for a fight at half time because of something he heard him shout. Doesn't get through to or affect players you reckon?
Being booed for being a selfish dick isn't worse than hearing things like "you're a useless piece of shit" aimed at you constantly, when you've not even had a chance to do anything wrong.
I don't really know what reaction you or anyone else were expecting from the crowd yesterday when Nani started sulking off either...did you expect them not to react at all or start cheering him for it?
No they probably are, but yesterday the reaction was an understandable one, even if I wouldn't have booed myself or agreed with it. It wasn't any worse than stuff that happens at basically every home game, for every team.
The booing at half time somewhat less so, but what can you do?
Understandable or not people who boo are idiots.
14:50 mark.
Cleverley definitely seems to be telling him to hurry up.
What about former players? I booed the shit out of Sparky when he was whinging at the ref at the end. To which circle of hell am I condemned?
Do you have a point or are you just pushing up the post count?
But yeah, it's the football, not a fecking panto.
Boo, Eyepopper! Boo!
Boo-urn.
He's behind you!
He's behind you!
A lot of shite being spoken in this thread. It is never, in any circumstances, acceptable nor excusable. Grow up.
There is no talking to some people
As disappointing as it was, yesterday was a prime demonstration of the price of success. Sadly, the team has created an insane amount of expectations that is coming back to haunt it at the moment. It is imperative that the team sticks together right now and the manager could help with emphasizing the need for unwavering support especially at home.
Given how some elements of our home support have been this season it really isn't much of a surprise that the team has generally played better away from home where the away support has eternally been magnificent and the players relatively allowed room for error without a backlash from fans
Given how some elements of our home support have been this season it really isn't much of a surprise that the team has generally played better away from home where the away support has eternally been magnificent and the players relatively allowed room for error without a backlash from fans