Booing our players...

The OT crowd seem to hate Nani. If any other player makes a mistake its usually met with groans, but with Nani its usually "feck off, you're shit!" from everywhere. He was really poor today, but I don't think he deserved the reception he got when he came off, especially as it was him who created our first goal.

As for the booing at HT, I thought it was for the ref for stopping just as Nani was about to put in a cross into the Stoke penalty area, and for being a general twat. I was certainly booing him, not the players.
 
It's a disgrace how Nani was treated today. I wouldn't mind, but if you have half a brain then you'd realise that Nani isn't the sort of character that reacts well to it. It just seems to force him further into his shell when people get on his back. Hopefully he has the mental strength to ignore it, but not many players have been subjected to that here. It's the most retarded thing I've seen and certainly didn't help the team in any way.
 
I can't see what good will come from booing, your there to support to your team. I don't understand why paying for a ticket means you can boo them, when you go to the cinema and the film turns out to be shit do you boo when the credits role?
 
It's counter-productive if nothing else. When the team is struggling, it's then the fans need to be heard cheering them on. I watched the match on the box but when we went 1-2 down, you could almost feel the anger and frustration coming through the telly. The Old Trafford roar is long gone, but when Stoke fans are making more noise than us, it really bothers me.

I know. It used to be a point of pride. We still have a great away support, of course, but that isn't the same thing. That roar could send chills down your spine, it really could. It's a matter of what they call a demographic profile, of course - and realistically a crowd of more than 70K at Old Trafford these days, with today's ticket prices and whatnot, won't be comprised only of hardcore supporters.

Is that a problem? I'd say so. Part of the thrill, as a casual spectator at a major football ground, is soaking up the atmosphere. These infamous day trippers and tourists and feckers who have gotten tickets as part of a bleedin' business conference - well, they won't be too impressed with a day out at Old Trafford if there is no proper atmosphere, you'd think. If you price out the locals, and especially the younger segment, you're headed down a slippery slope in that respect. If your natural inclination is not to support the team, regardless of performance, but rather to wait and see whether they come up with anything brilliant before you start shouting, well - it won't work, will it?
 
I know. It used to be a point of pride. We still have a great away support, of course, but that isn't the same thing. That roar could send chills down your spine, it really could. It's a matter of what they call a demographic profile, of course - and realistically a crowd of more than 70K at Old Trafford these days, with today's ticket prices and whatnot, won't be comprised only of hardcore supporters.

Is that a problem? I'd say so. Part of the thrill, as a casual spectator at a major football ground, is soaking up the atmosphere. These infamous day trippers and tourists and feckers who have gotten tickets as part of a bleedin' business conference - well, they won't be too impressed with a day out at Old Trafford if there is no proper atmosphere, you'd think. If you price out the locals, and especially the younger segment, you're headed down a slippery slope in that respect. If your natural inclination is not to support the team, regardless of performance, but rather to wait and see whether they come up with anything brilliant before you start shouting, well - it won't work, will it?

Do other teams suffer from a similar malaise? Liverpool still has a pretty vocal support, as do Newcastle. Saw some shots of Anfield today and they had the flags and scarves held high. There used to be a lot of complaints about the stewards at Old Trafford over-zealously enforcing the no standing rule, and that tended to put a damper on things. Maybe they don't police Anfield or St. James' Park so rigidly.
 
Not posted for a long time on here but feel I've got to say something about the booing of Nani (and if I heard correctly - I'm getting on a bit now - the same for Fellini when his name was announced as one of the subs). Even in the 70's when we were total crap I can't ever remember reds booing a United player - loads of groans etc but I was really unhappy with the reception Nani got when subbed. Being in the second tier of the Stretty we should be the heart and soul of everything United but groups in there let themselves down badly. We are not playing well at ther moment - so what - it's our duty to get behind the team & do whatever we can. On these occasions we actually deserve the shit hurled at us by other fans and the press when we boo our own players.
 
Not posted for a long time on here but feel I've got to say something about the booing of Nani (and if I heard correctly - I'm getting on a bit now - the same for Fellini when his name was announced as one of the subs). Even in the 70's when we were total crap I can't ever remember reds booing a United player - loads of groans etc but I was really unhappy with the reception Nani got when subbed. Being in the second tier of the Stretty we should be the heart and soul of everything United but groups in there let themselves down badly. We are not playing well at ther moment - so what - it's our duty to get behind the team & do whatever we can. On these occasions we actually deserve the shit hurled at us by other fans and the press when we boo our own players.


This is the role we should all take on, match going or not. It sounds gay, but fecking support the team
 
The whole logic behind booing your player is idiotic in the first place, you'd have to be really dumb to do it. If you boo them, it's not going to make them play better, it'll probably make them play worse, it'll probably make the rest of the team wary too. It's so retarded.
 
Am at Fulham next week if Nani plays it'll be interesting to see the reaction of our fans there - I won't be booing him or any other United player & never will.
 
I felt bad for Nani, I mean Smalling and Cleverley hadn't been any better but they weren't met with such a hostile reaction when subbed off.
 
Disappointing to hear this.

From what I heard and read before watching the game for myself I was expecting to see an awful performance from Nani.

I'm watching the full game now on Sky and I honestly don't think he was THAT bad. Certainly compared to some of the other players.

He got himself on the ball plenty of times, yes he's given it away on a few occasions but the majority of his passes and through balls found their target. There was the one occasion where he got outmuscled on the halfway line which led to a Stoke chance which was particularly poor. He has put the ball in that led to our first equaliser though.

I'm by no means saying he had a good game, probably 6/10, but when I'd heard about the booing I was expecting something much worse.

Disappointing to hear about the booing though, Nani has always been a confidence player and so booing him isn't going to help, plus it creates a negative atmosphere that the rest of the team will pick up on when what they need now more than ever is the fans getting behind them.

The offenders will argue that they have paid their money and so have every right to boo, maybe they're right but still its a shame to see.
 
Not surprised that this has happened. We have the most spoiled set of fans in English, and possibly world football. The fact that they're turning on the players instead of getting behind them when times finally appear to be getting tough just proves this.
 
It was pathetic. People jeering when he has a shot too when there's only Rooney also shooting. Let's just ignore his cross that set up the first goal. Shameful.
 
Anyone who booed Nani is an utter bishop.....anyone who attempts to condone it is also a bishop. Probably the same people who would happily cheer him when he (in hypothetical terms) scores the winner next week against Fulham. People moaning that he walked off the pitch WTF :lol: get a grip.
 
Really came across as noisy on telly and I don't subscribe to the saying of having paid your money so being entitled to boo. It's totally cnutish and there's no excuse.
 
There was plenty of clapping too, but jeers drown that out.


Not surprised that this has happened. We have the most spoiled set of fans in English, and possibly world football. The fact that they're turning on the players instead of getting behind them when times finally appear to be getting tough just proves this.

In general though, Old Trafford seems to have been pretty forgiving this season, and the atmosphere seems to have improved as a result of needing to 'get behind the team/manager more.' Perhaps this sort of thing is part and parcel and comes with a more active crowd.
 
I hate it. Absolutely pathetic. Some spoilt fans need to understand we have no right to just win every game.
What good does booing your player do? Just because he's had a bad game.

If I was Nani I would be pretty furious.
 
Do other teams suffer from a similar malaise? Liverpool still has a pretty vocal support, as do Newcastle. Saw some shots of Anfield today and they had the flags and scarves held high. There used to be a lot of complaints about the stewards at Old Trafford over-zealously enforcing the no standing rule, and that tended to put a damper on things. Maybe they don't police Anfield or St. James' Park so rigidly.

Don't know about the Geordies, but I've heard complaints from the Scousers - there was an uproar of sorts not too long ago about too many Scandinavian weekend trippers crowding Anfield. And I think the general consensus is that the famous Kop ain't what it used to be. Last I went to Anfield was several years ago, be it said, so I don't really know. The Geordies are a bit different from us or Liverpool, in that they have the whole "toon" to begin with - and that they don't have the world wide appeal either us or Liverpool have, thus attracting less tourists.

One thing to note here, by the way, is that a "tourist" and a traveling fan is certainly not one and the same thing. I've come across people who have made the trip to Old Trafford over from the continent regularly for decades, people who have supported United for longer than I have lived and who are extremely knowledgeable about our football club - certainly not glory hunters or prawn sandwich gobblers at all.
 
Didn't like the booing but really, Nani needs his head check. Yet again it was Nani FC, it was all about him. Threw his toys out of the pram when he saw his number and started sulking. Just get on with, suck it up and jog it off.

Not agreeing with the booing but in the heat of the moment, fully understandable.
 
Agreed, United have been spoilt with success over the past 2 decades, whilst some may think their fans are holier than thou, a period of transition will soon bring about the realization many of the fans are no different to ours or of any other club.
 
Have you booed your team off before?


Not personally. I just do nothing really if we lose. I'm disappointed, like they are. I might applaud if the effort was good, like v Dortmund in the week. But people do boo if their team doesn't win. It's just a fact of life - frustration gets the better of people.
 
Not personally. I just do nothing really if we lose. I'm disappointed, like they are. I might applaud if the effort was good, like v Dortmund in the week. But people do boo if their team doesn't win. It's just a fact of life - frustration gets the better of people.

It's bollocks really, doesn't really help at all. The fact that you don't boo personally seems to suggest you agree, so I'm not sure why you would defend them. I'm not sure they know what it means to be a 'supporter'.
 
It's bollocks really, doesn't really help at all. The fact that you don't boo personally seems to suggest you agree, so I'm not sure why you would defend them. I'm not sure they know what I means to be a 'supporter'.


I'm not defending it as such - I'm merely saying that regardless of how idiotic it is, it will happen. My argument is very much what Rob said just above about how no set of supporters can really take a moral high ground on the issue.

When you're a true supporter, you find it difficult to keep your chin up when you lose. Sometimes that manifests itself in booing, sometimes people have the ability to not let it show and applaud the team off in a rational way.

I don't approve of booing, I don't think it helps, but I also don't believe that it means you're a terrible fan. I think it shows you're just disappointed and have chosen to vent it.
 
I'm not defending it as such - I'm merely saying that regardless of how idiotic it is, it will happen. My argument is very much what Rob said just above about how no set of supporters can really take a moral high ground on the issue.

When you're a true supporter, you find it difficult to keep your chin up when you lose. Sometimes that manifests itself in booing, sometimes people have the ability to not let it show and applaud the team off in a rational way.

I don't approve of booing, I don't think it helps, but I also don't believe that it means you're a terrible fan. I think it shows you're just disappointed and have chosen to vent it.

Yeah, there's no real moral high ground between opposition fans, but amongst your own, I'd lose some respect for those that are booing and gain some for those that are not. I think it's a pretty shit thing to do generally.
 
You just know that the ones booing are the clueless section of our "supporters" who tweet / text / call talk radio to slag Nani off after every match and have love to buy into the media propaganda that he's totally shit. They've just been waiting for the chance.


Have to agree with this, Nani gets a hard time off a certain section of the fans and other players get away with bad performances, Nani was no worse than Cleverley, Smalling or Shinji today
 
Have to agree with this, Nani gets a hard time off a certain section of the fans and other players get away with bad performances, Nani was no worse than Cleverley, Smalling or Shinji today
It's not about having a bad performance, fans accept that. I's the attitude and rolling around and everything that comes with Nani when he has a bad game. Everyone has poor days and on Nani's bad day, he can still produce, it's what makes him so valuable but fans want to see men out there, he acts like a spoilt 12 year old.
 
Football fans are hypocritical bellends.

A couple of minutes before the Nani booing started, Rooney had a potshot from 35 yards that went wide. The crowd reaction? Cheer and chant his name.

Nani sees this and is already feeling under pressure from the fans, so he wants to get them on his side. He shoots from 35 yards and it goes wide. The crowd reaction? Boos.

Many of our "supporters" have an agenda against a player (yes I used the "a" word) and will use any excuse to jump on their back. It's one of the most selfish things you can do as a fan.
 
fecking spastics, heard it loud and clear today behind me and it isnt the first time this season either. Yes Nani had a shit game and was frustrating as feck but that they really are fecking embarrassing.
 
cnutish thing to do, when the chips are down the point is to SUPPORT the team, encourage them and try and gee them up a bit, be the twelfth man so to speak. Not cool at all.
 
Football fans are hypocritical bellends.

A couple of minutes before the Nani booing started, Rooney had a potshot from 35 yards that went wide. The crowd reaction? Cheer and chant his name.

Nani sees this and is already feeling under pressure from the fans, so he wants to get them on his side. He shoots from 35 yards and it goes wide. The crowd reaction? Boos.

Many of our "supporters" have an agenda against a player (yes I used the "a" word) and will use any excuse to jump on their back. It's one of the most selfish things you can do as a fan.
The support Rooney has received is proves this, back in May he was booed and called a YSB, fast forward a few months and he now gets his name sung for blasting the ball the over the cross bar. I agree with the bit the bold, Young seems to be getting a similar treatment as well.
 
It's not about having a bad performance, fans accept that. I's the attitude and rolling around and everything that comes with Nani when he has a bad game. Everyone has poor days and on Nani's bad day, he can still produce, it's what makes him so valuable but fans want to see men out there, he acts like a spoilt 12 year old.
Whereas booing like a twat is the action of a fully functioning adult.
 
I has a season ticket for several years, and have been on here for over a decade, so qualify as both. And I can confirm that there are loads of regulars at Old Trafford who turn on our players at the drop of a hat and come across as though everything they know about the team comes from 606. Being a regular match-goer is no guarantee of having a clue.

We used to travel up to OT 6-10 times a season during the 00s and i can't recall many instances where a player was singled out in the manner of Nani yesterday. Ultimately United was falling short as a team so whether for those fans booing came from stupidity or an agenda...*shrugs*

Did the it emanate from any particular stand out of interest?
 
It's not about having a bad performance, fans accept that. I's the attitude and rolling around and everything that comes with Nani when he has a bad game. Everyone has poor days and on Nani's bad day, he can still produce, it's what makes him so valuable but fans want to see men out there, he acts like a spoilt 12 year old.


Fair enough ill accept that, but speaking to certain United fans even when Nani has one of his good days there seems to be an agenda against him, its not fair on the lad, he is a confidence player, when he is high in confidence he can be outstanding, but when low in confidence he plays like he did today, im not saying he shouldnt get stick like everybody else when he is not pulling his weight but boo'ing the lad doesnt help anybody

It seems as if a certain section of the fans would rather see him gone than benched which saddens me, he has done no worse than Valencia or Young in the last year