So now you have a squad that can go head with head with City?
Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)
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So now you have a squad that can go head with head with City?
We need to spend a few more 100s.of millions.
I mean, speaking just for myself here, but I've never found net spend figures hilarious.
The key thing here is Boehly and co learning from their previous year mistakes. You'll be there in a season or two if you don't continue to do what you did last year. If Poch gets sacked at some point or if some random players get added without rhyme or reason, it'll be starting all over again.
Should put that on your gravestone
That was not the point, the point was even at over half a billion it is still a ridiculous amount of money to spend after player sales as reigning CWC champions to not become instant title challengers. Add 35m for palmer now who Pochettino apparently didn't even know would be signed...
I don't get the strategy. Sure, spreading the cost out of a player over the course of 8 years sounds great but what happens if the player doesn't perform, gets injured, declines naturally?
Someone like Mudryk looks absolutely lost out there and now you have a player on a big wage and a long contract. If you want to move him on, how do you do it? Who takes him? And why would he move for less money when money is what you've used to tempt them in?
They've changed too much, too soon. Backroom staff, players, managers. It changes a lot and regularly. I don't see Chelsea as a place you go to and take your time to settle in. When things go wrong, Chelsea tend to act quickly (Tuchel, Lukaku). If Poch doesn't get a tune out of the team soon, pressure will come.
I think they're looking at disaster down the line if everything doesn't align perfectly and the chances of that seem slim to me, especially with City about.
On winter deadline day the chelsea sub was collectively mas**rbating over Todd spending so much, and before the season had even ended and they were playing poorly they were criticising his transfer strategy.
Opinion on his strategy is going to change every week.
Surely the point in spending money like they have is to get results here and now. I keep seeing people saying it’s all just about progress and it’s a young squad that needs time. There is no way those owners have spent that type of money to give it 2 seasons, they will be expecting competing here and now.
Honestly, I think Chelsea and making the same mistake as last year, buying up all of the potential and then having too many options that it causes some to not play, and most of those guys would either start or be first sub in on pretty much any other team. I forsee at least some issues in their locker room.
It’s a double sided sword & you can live by the sword or die by it. If it goes well you have a great young squad for the future … if it doesn’t the gamble could backfire with FFP & revenue.
Only time will tell.
Someone like Mudryk looks absolutely lost out there and now you have a player on a big wage and a long contract. If you want to move him on, how do you do it? Who takes him? And why would he move for less money when money is what you've used to tempt them in?
They've changed too much, too soon. Backroom staff, players, managers. It changes a lot and regularly. I don't see Chelsea as a place you go to and take your time to settle in. When things go wrong, Chelsea tend to act quickly (Tuchel, Lukaku). If Poch doesn't get a tune out of the team soon, pressure will come.
I think they're looking at disaster down the line if everything doesn't align perfectly and the chances of that seem slim to me, especially with City about.
On winter deadline day the chelsea sub was collectively mas**rbating over Todd spending so much, and before the season had even ended and they were playing poorly they were criticising his transfer strategy.
Opinion on his strategy is going to change every week.
Surely the point in spending money like they have is to get results here and now. I keep seeing people saying it’s all just about progress and it’s a young squad that needs time. There is no way those owners have spent that type of money to give it 2 seasons, they will be expecting competing here and now.
Honestly, I think Chelsea and making the same mistake as last year, buying up all of the potential and then having too many options that it causes some to not play, and most of those guys would either start or be first sub in on pretty much any other team. I forsee at least some issues in their locker room.
It’s a double sided sword & you can live by the sword or die by it. If it goes well you have a great young squad for the future … if it doesn’t the gamble could backfire with FFP & revenue.
Only time will tell.
Always a poor argument, even today it still is.
Do you really, honestly believe that? All he did was refuse to talk to the media about a player who at the time of the press conference was still a Manchester City player. However he may have worded his answer that's literally all there is to it.
How often do you see any manager publicly talk about a move that isn't yet completed? Klopp did it with Caicedo only to end up embarrassed later on, which is why clubs usually only allow their managers to reveal any bits of information about new signings when something's been signed already.
In any case, the most reliable Chelsea journos told us yesterday the pursuit has been driven by Joe Shields (formerly of Man City) for a while and that Pochettino had already green lit the idea of signing Palmer. Poch doesn't have the final say in who the club go after but every first team signing will still go through the manager before taking things any further than initial interest.
Yes we have the squad to go head to head with city but only lacking in experience that city have accumulated over the years. We will get there eventually before last season top 5 teams.
He's not on a big wage. He's making £100k per week. Just about every team in the PL and probably a third of continental top flight clubs can afford his salary no problem.
Chelsea's wage structure is a bit confusing (as is Liverpool's). There's a low basic wage and a bunch of very vague add-ons. We'll know at the end of the year the real story based on financial statements.
True - though Mudryk's salary has been consistently reported by our Tier 1 journos and probably isn't far off the mark. Agree with you though about all our recent signings; it's hard to know for sure one way or another. I still feel very confident that the wage bill has been trimmed significantly versus what it was last year, though.
Think most of the add-ons in the deals are to do with qualifying for the CL - but that's pure conjecture. Really wish contracts were disclosed and handled in football the way they are in American sports; it'd be far easier to understand and tally up.
Its not that confusing, end of the day the financial reports that will be published by the clubs will answer everything.
That seems to be the only reliable measure these days. There was this other thread at how our wage bill was £238m while Liverpool's was only £147m which seems massive but it's only the half truth.
Below are the financial statements of:
Liverpool: https://backend.liverpoolfc.com/sites/default/files/2023-03/Liverpool Football Club Annual Report and Consolidated Financial Statements.pdf?lfm_medium=marketing-block-other&lfm_source=cms&lfm_content=basic-page-formatted-text&lfm_page=/corporate/financial-information&lfm_campaign=other-marketing-blocks&lfm_page_position=0
United: https://ir.manutd.com/financial-information/annual-reports/2022.aspx
The difference in employee benefit expenses is nearly the same here at around £330m if you remove Ronaldo's salary. Mudryk earning 97k is actually quite unbelievable. Can bet he'd be around 150k min once you account for easily attainable variables.
If you spend half a billion on 16 years olds, it's not 'ridiculous' to expect they wouldn't be instant title challengers. Again, context of the spend is everything. The target was never to create instant title challengers and the signings reflect that. The fact that you, and the like, find that ridiculous is inconsequential.
Was the target to drop to 12th and literally become the worst team in the league for 6 months?
It’s funny when your fanbase defended your transfer activity at the close of the last two transfer windows and you’re falling into the same trap now.
Agree. It's like putting plans in place for a summer garden and then someone in February shouting "wHY cAn't i SeE fLoWErs???!!!1111".
Ridiculously thick.
It's not length that makes players unmovable it's amount per week.
You must be livid you're about to sign a second player from that side then, or are they the convenient exceptions?
The feck are half these players? They sound like FM regens.
As long as the players are in not that high salaries (which Chelsea usually does) and they are quick to get rid of them if they do not perform, it is not that risky, to be fair.
We saw this with Havertz for example.
I think the issue is when players are in high salaries and the club keeps them at the hope they would get good, despite they play badly. Then they become unsellable. For example, after this season, Sancho would have had 3 seasons of not performing while being at 350k/week, so no club will touch him. If he was at a reasonable 200k/week and we tried to sell last summer or even this one, we would have been able to get most, if not all, of our transfer back.
The feck are half these players? They sound like FM regens.
That's basically what they are. 11 of them have either gone straight into our U21 squad or have been loaned out.
Whose this second player then??You must be livid you're about to sign a second player from that side then, or are they the convenient exceptions?
I can't believe City sold Cole Palmer to them. That could be the reverse of the De Bruyne situation.
RacistThe feck are half these players? They sound like FM regens.
You can't tell me Jimmy-Jay Morgan isn't computer generated. No sane parent would give their kid three first names.
The important question is why you left off the word "Who" from the start of your sentence. Explain yourself please.
Jimmy Jay Morgan - gangsta! What a cool name!
Why the rush with this guy? he's come in like a wrecking ball and spent money for what seems like just for the sake of spending it, it's almost like this £1.5 billion pledge has had to be spent within a certain time frame, but I can't make any sense of why that would be.
They've got rid of so many experienced players like Jorginho, Kante, Azpillcueta, Kovacic, etc, that it maybe shouldn't be a surprise how much they've struggled, but it still is.
I mean if Boehly had just come in and done virtually nothing, ie keep Tuchel and most of the players he inherited, then they would surely be in a far better place right now.
They've got rid of so many experienced players like Jorginho, Kante, Azpillcueta, Kovacic, etc, that it maybe shouldn't be a surprise how much they've struggled, but it still is.
I mean if Boehly had just come in and done virtually nothing, ie keep Tuchel and most of the players he inherited, then they would surely be in a far better place right now.
This is what I’m saying. He could have literally came in put his feet up and signed 1 player and they would have been in a better position.
The feck are half these players? They sound like FM regens.
Never has a smiley been more fitting :
Some of you lot make it sound as though a billion quid is a huge outlay.
Did they sign a second Fofana because the first one got injured?
That’s not so crazy when you put it like that. Only makes… counts fingers… 20 new players to try and integrate into your first team, all at once. Dunno what all the fuss is about tbh.
Chelsea hasn't bought badly, it just that they bought for the future. The fans are deluding themselves if they thinks they can challenge for a title with all the kids they bought.
If they wanted to challenge they would have bought established or proven professional. Players like oshimen, rice, kudus, veratti, onana, heck even neymar experience will help a lot with this chelsea team.
If they wanted to challenge they would have bought established or proven professional. Players like oshimen, rice, kudus, veratti, onana, heck even neymar experience will help a lot with this chelsea team.
It's a sign of the times that this statement could be read as unironic and not sound like the most outlandish drivel you read on the caf in an average week.
Aged well.You must be livid you're about to sign a second player from that side then, or are they the convenient exceptions?
I can see the thought running through Todd’s head ‘If I buy enough top names, the resale to Saudi will be massive!’
An absolute shit show if ever there was one
An absolute shit show if ever there was one