Body Found in Tia Sharp's Grandmother's house

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Stuart Hazell now missing.

I assume I was not the only one who thought it was him as soon as the case made it to TV.

Why wasn't the house searched right away?

How could police have let him get out of their sights? Especially since he was questioned 2 days ago.
 
I don't get why they never looked around the house in the first place. It was quite obvious that guy was dodgy too.
 
Also has the Grandmother just been living in the house with the body? Why hasn't she been arrested as an accomplice or something?
 
It's all rather strange. Tia's mother has, apparently, 'gone away' too. Very odd indeed.
 
It's almost always the dodgy bloke that everyone thinks it might be

And on the rare occasion it isn't, it's always the very nice-seeming boyfriend who's clearly totally devastated and could never be putting it on
 
Bloody awful news about the little girl.I was hoping she'd turn up unharmed but they very rarely do,do they ? Very strange about the police's search of the house unless the body was moved there after the search and Granny's got a few questions to answer as well.
R I P Tia
 
It's startling that the house wasn't thoroughly searched earlier.
 
From what I've read, the police would have needed more immediate evidence to justify the search warrant.
 
Viva Valencia said:
Bloody awful news about the little girl.I was hoping she'd turn up unharmed but they very rarely do,do they ? Very strange about the police's search of the house unless the body was moved there after the search and Granny's got a few questions to answer as well.
R I P Tia
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When the police originally searched the house they'd have been looking for a missing child rather than a body.

They would have needed some sort of evidence to get a warrant which would have enabled them to search the house more thoroughly which is what they did today.
 
Plechazunga said:
It's almost always the dodgy bloke that everyone thinks it might be

And on the rare occasion it isn't, it's always the very nice-seeming boyfriend who's clearly totally devastated and could never be putting it on
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I think this time the papers went a bit softer on the dodgy guy after the whole thing with Christopher Jefferies.
 
SteveJ said:
From what I've read, the police would have needed more immediate evidence to justify the search warrant.
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I don't think they would have needed a warrant to ask for the house owner's permission to search the house. To me that would seem a reasonable thing to do in such an investigation.
 
rednev said:
I don't think they would have needed a warrant to ask for the house owner's permission to search the house. To me that would seem a reasonable thing to do in such an investigation.
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I think they would have needed it in order to bring up the floorboards and stuff like that.
 
rednev said:
I don't think they would have needed a warrant to ask for the house owner's permission to search the house. To me that would seem a reasonable thing to do in such an investigation.
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Yeah, as I mentioned, there's some odd things about the case thus far. For example, it's only now that the grandmother has 'agreed to leave the house', allowing police to search thoroughly. Yeah, this is a legal thing, but it's strange nonetheless.
 
SteveJ said:
From what I've read, the police would have needed more immediate evidence to justify the search warrant.
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Could they not have just asked to look around the house? If they objected it would surely look dodgy? They could even do it under the premise of looking for clues in her room or something.
 
As hinted at in my post above, maybe there was some resistance to a search, on the grandmother's part.
 
Solius said:
Could they not have just asked to look around the house? If they objected it would surely look dodgy? They could even do it under the premise of looking for clues in her room or something.
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they probably did, but you don't hide a dead body in open view, if you are the killer and its your home.
 
sparky said:
they probably did, but you don't hide a dead body in open view, if you are the killer and its your home.
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A search dog in the house would have found the body within minutes. Dozens of officers and search dogs were searching the area around the house, so I find it surprising that someone didn't think it reasonable to have one give the house a quick sniff-over.
 
rednev said:
A search dog in the house would have found the body within minutes. Dozens of officers and search dogs were searching the area around the house, so I find it surprising that someone didn't think it reasonable to have one give the house a quick sniff-over.
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True, but I was referring to the idea of a 'quick' look. It would not always involve the police dogs. I assume they were happy for them to sniff outside, especially as the body was inside. Must be some legal stuff as mentioned before.
 
rednev said:
A search dog in the house would have found the body within minutes. Dozens of officers and search dogs were searching the area around the house, so I find it surprising that someone didn't think it reasonable to have one give the house a quick sniff-over.
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There was a dog that went in the other day but I don't think it was a cadaver dog. If the body was well concealed (which it seems it was) then a dog trained to find alive people may not have detected anything.

Police took a German Shepherd dog into the house where her grandmother's partner Stuart Hazell was said to be the last person to see her before she left on a shopping trip.
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...terviewed-by-police-as-a-witness-8021673.html

That was two days ago.
 
A post I saw on another forum:

Met Police have released a statement clarifying the criticism that's been aimed at them today:

Said the house had been searched on numerous occasions during the week.

The police want to do a post mortem in order to establish a time of death (basically to establish how long she was in the house).

That Hazell is not a clear suspect and is only wanted as 'a matter of importance'.

The 'do not approach' warning was to deter vigilantism.
 
They saying there was there previous searches. One on Sunday just of her bedroom, and two during the week with police dogs. They searched again today with a police dog, and then called in the forensic team to do a search.

It's strange that if this Hazell guy did it, and he hid or the body was in the house the whole time, he just didn't leg it as soon as the police started sniffing around. In fact he was doing interviews outside the house yesterday apprently.
 
Hal9000 said:
They saying there was there previous searches. One on Sunday just of her bedroom, and two during the week with police dogs. They searched again today with a police dog, and then called in the forensic team to do a search.

It's strange that if this Hazell guy did it, and he hid or the body was in the house the whole time, he just didn't leg it as soon as the police started sniffing around. In fact he was doing interviews outside the house yesterday apprently.
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That makes it sound like she either was alive and not there at time or dead and her body has been moved there later. This is going to tear this family apart.
 
Apparently this Hazell guy was seeing Tia's mother before ending up with the grandmother.
 
It's unbelievable how this stuff happens, poor girl.

Just makes my belief stronger that there is an upper class, a middle, a working, and a social underclass. This is an example of where it is at its worst.
 
alastair said:
It's unbelievable how this stuff happens, poor girl.

Just makes my belief stronger that there is an upper class, a middle, a working, and a social underclass. This is an example of where it is at its worst.
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Because upper class people have never killed anyone?
 
alastair said:
It's unbelievable how this stuff happens, poor girl.

Just makes my belief stronger that there is an upper class, a middle, a working, and a social underclass. This is an example of where it is at its worst.
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In what sense is this any different from a murder by middle or upper class people? Or is it their strange relationships or family dynamics that bother you?
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Because upper class people have never killed anyone?
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Of course they have. It's just a little bit different.

This girl has been left with a machete wielding, drug-dealing bloke overnight on her own. This is something all other social classes don't do.

To these people in this bizarre bottom-most rung, this is fine. Maybe they're not as judgmental as I am and are willing to give people a tenth chance.

As I say, they're different. It's the non-working, non-aspirational, criminally stupid and uneducated, illiterate, lazy people that this girl sadly came into contact with through birth.
 
Brophs said:
In what sense is this any different from a murder by middle or upper class people? Or is it their strange relationships or family dynamics that bother you?
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Are you not bothered by the concept of a 37 year old step-grandfather? Although he's not really 'step' since he and the grand-mother have probably been going out about two weeks.

Call me elitist, but that strikes me as something that isn't working class, middle or upper. It's the social underclass. This isn't an attack on the working class at all because that's not the category these people belong to.
 
alastair said:
Of course they have. It's just a little bit different.

This girl has been left with a machete wielding, drug-dealing bloke overnight on her own. This is something all other social classes don't do.

To these people in this bizarre bottom-most rung, this is fine. Maybe they're not as judgmental as I am and are willing to give people a tenth chance.

As I say, they're different. It's the non-working, non-aspirational, criminally stupid and uneducated, illiterate, lazy people that this girl sadly came into contact with through birth.
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Generalising from the specific a tad don't you think?
 
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