BluRay wins?

Planet Earth is absolutely amazing.

Is there 1440p available? If so i hadnt heard of it...

Looks like Blu-Ray are winning the war, which of course; i am most pleased about. Bill Gates just announced that no HD players will be installed in the next generation of X-Box's.

God i love it when i make a shrewd decision regarding technology, if there was ever such a thing!
 
They have research models that go way beyond 1440p - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

4320p he he he!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5335870.stm

Microsoft want to move to total digital distribution. They only really supported Toshiba to try to feck Sony over, but they will probably still need an optical disk in the XB720 or whatever it will be called for reasons I discussed earlier. Certain PS3 games are now hitting the single layer limit of Blu-ray which is 25GB, and Kojima has asked for a double layer disk for MGS4. These figures will only go upwards, and I'd really love to be sat in the UK with a DSL line trying to download a game that size. DVD9 will not cut it and HDD storage requirements would have to be absolutely huge, yet HDD is something they didn't even make standard with the XB360. They could go HD-DVD though, as the lack of writers on the open market will help them with piracy a little. By not including an optical drive they would be basically trying to sell a home media device that could only play music and video via downloads; if they launch XB720 in 2010/11 as expected it will be a very strange thing to do.
 
Absolutely amazing is Planet Earth on bluray as is Queen at Montreal. Even on normal TV the Sharp is a fantastic picture, even the missus said so and that takes some doing.
 
ukbob said:
Absolutely amazing is Planet Earth on bluray as is Queen at Montreal. Even on normal TV the Sharp is a fantastic picture, even the missus said so and that takes some doing.
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No matter how good Blu-Ray nothing compares to the real thing.
 
ukbob said:
Absolutely amazing is Planet Earth on bluray as is Queen at Montreal. Even on normal TV the Sharp is a fantastic picture, even the missus said so and that takes some doing.
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What is Planet Earth? :smirk:
 
I have a Sharp Aquos 1080p. Beautiful picture, decent price.

Some of the Blu-Ray DVD's have not impressed me all that much, i must note that Harry Potter was superb though. Even though not usually a fan; i was astounded at the quality of the faces, notably in the opening scene.

Anyone suggest any other good Blu-Ray's?

Planet Earth is the showpiece, timeless. Im looking for something of that sorts, as opposed to the run of the mill rentable films.
 
The new Blade Runner Final Cut is very nice indeed after the digital remastering.
 
united.7 said:
Some of the Blu-Ray DVD's have not impressed me all that much
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Many of the earlier discs were very badly encoded, especially the Warner titles. Many used MPEG-2 and not even at full bitrate. Warner were one of the founding members of DVD group when Toshiba took on and beat Sony/Philips (both of which lost big style) over MMCD, and they get a lot of royalties for every DVD and thus HD-DVD sold because of this. It was in their interests to try and give HD-DVD a foot up the ladder against Blu-ray, which is why this move to Blu-ray on their part is so important.
 
niMic said:
The sequel to Battlefield Earth.



Anyway, DVD is enough for me for the moment. I don't think the difference is big enough just yet.
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The difference is quite striking. A big plasma screen and Blu Ray is a thing of beauty.
 
Blu Rays don't make sense, they cost far too much to produce. They will come up with something else.
 
The nails are starting to be hammered into the coffin.

Double boost for Blu-ray backers

The backers of the Blu-ray high definition DVD system have received a twin boost in their ongoing format war with HD DVD.

Best Buy - the US's largest consumer electronics chain - has announced it is to recommend that its customers choose Sony's Blu-ray format.

Its shops will carry HD DVD but Blu-ray will be displayed more prominently.

And online video rental company Netflix said it would phase out its HD DVD stock and exclusively offer Blu-ray.

Studio backing

Netflix has become the US's largest company in a fast-growing field - DVD rental by mail - and announced a year ago that it had made its billionth DVD delivery after just eight years in business.

It has stocked both Blu-ray and HD DVD since the formats came on the market in early 2006 but said it had been prompted to reconsider this after a majority of the major Hollywood studios came out in favour of Blu-ray.

Walt Disney, Sony Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox, Warner Brothers and MGM are the studios that have endorsed Blu-ray. Paramount and Universal Studios publish their high-definition DVDs in Toshiba's HD DVD format.

The company also said the reality was that not many customers were ordering HD DVDs. "From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers," it said in a statement.

Netflix's rival Blockbuster said last June that it planned to stock only Blu-ray titles in its 1,450 US stores.

Best Buy's decision was explained by its president and chief operating officer Brian Dunn, who said: "Best Buy has always believed that the customer will benefit from a widely accepted single format that would offer advantages such as product compatibility and expanded content choices.

"Because we believe that Blu-ray is fast emerging as that single format, we have decided to focus on Blu-ray products."

The battle between HD DVD and Blu-ray has echoes of the rivalry between Betamax and VHS in the 1980s over which was the better video format for customers.

Although both competed side-by-side for several years, the cheaper VHS format eventually won total dominance of the market.
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I think its a fact that whenever somebody buys HD Technology, they buy Planet Earth on DVD to chekc out the picture quality.

Sir David is the man!
 
WeasteDevil said:
Rams, you lost the fecking argument!
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I haven't lost anything, I predicted Xbox 360 to be more succesful then PS3.
I also have to wait and see everybody exchanging their DVD's for Blu Rays.
I love Sony, they make quality stuff. But they have fecked up in a business sence over the last few years.
 
Rams said:
I haven't lost anything, I predicted Xbox 360 to be more succesful then PS3.
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PS3 is outselling XBox worldwide, you were wrong.

Rams said:
I also have to wait and see everybody exchanging their DVD's for Blu Rays.
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The more people buy HDTVs, the more people want HD content, otherwise why have the HDTV? Blu-ray is not the only mechanism for this, and just as the PS2 drove the adoption of DVD in Europe to a certain extent, so will the PS3 drive Blu-ray adoption.

Rams said:
I love Sony, they make quality stuff. But they have fecked up in a business sence over the last few years.
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Yes, they appointed a British bloke as their CEO, bad move.
 
WeasteDevil said:
The more people buy HDTVs, the more people want HD content, otherwise why have the HDTV? Blu-ray is not the only mechanism for this, and just as the PS2 drove the adoption of DVD in Europe to a certain extent, so will the PS3 drive Blu-ray adoption.
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I agree with your PS3 theory, but not with the telly one. Digital TV is the reason to by an HDTV, not blu ray or HD DVD.
 
Rams said:
Waste

http://nexgenwars.com/

Sony still have a lot of catching up to do, and I haven't even started on the profit margins.

Well done WII, who'd have thought?! I was indeed completly wrong...
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Brilliant source you quoted there. PS3 outsold XB360 worldwide in the last calendar year, there is no disputing this fact.

As for the Wii, I don't even class it as being in the same market.
 
Rams said:
Digital TV is the reason to by an HDTV, not blu ray or HD DVD.
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Digital TV?

Point 1. Most people in Europe do not have HD digital TV.

Point 2. The easiest way at this moment in time (and I would say the next 2 - 3 years in time) to access HD content is through Blu-ray disc.

1080p broadcasting is not coming along very quickly for the masses.
 
fecking hell... I don't even know why I feel the urge to defend myself...

1) From the figures I have seen the total sales of XBOX360 is far higher then PS3 to date. As I said, PS3 has a lot of catching up to do.

2) In respect of digital TV, I mean digital signal instead of analogue signal. Thus not necessary watching programmes in HD format. With a normal tube telly you don’t tell the difference. When you have LCD TV the picture from normal analogue signal looks terrible. People want LCD TV because you can have a massive screen without taking up half your living space (amongst other reasons).
What you are also seeing is that people are forced to go digital. After going to digital signal, consumers are more likely to purchase an LCD screen. And when buying a LCD screen they are most likely to get one HD ready.
Further to this, interactive services, such as BBC I, are much nicer to use on a wide picture format.
 
They are talking about turning analog off here in about 18 months time. Non HD set top boxes cost feck all but you really need a new arial which isn't so cheap.
 
Rams said:
fecking hell... I don't even know why I feel the urge to defend myself...

1) From the figures I have seen the total sales of XBOX360 is far higher then PS3 to date. As I said, PS3 has a lot of catching up to do.

2) In respect of digital TV, I mean digital signal instead of analogue signal. Thus not necessary watching programmes in HD format. With a normal tube telly you don’t tell the difference. When you have LCD TV the picture from normal analogue signal looks terrible. People want LCD TV because you can have a massive screen without taking up half your living space (amongst other reasons).
What you are also seeing is that people are forced to go digital. After going to digital signal, consumers are more likely to purchase an LCD screen. And when buying a LCD screen they are most likely to get one HD ready.
Further to this, interactive services, such as BBC I, are much nicer to use on a wide picture format.
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Of course 360 sales are higher, it has been out a full 12 months longer than the PS3, who have sold around the same amount the 360 did in it's first year.
 
I bought PS3 because it had a Blu Ray player and a HD included for feck all, the whole lot cost me about a 100 quid after trading in an old X Box and 10 crap games. X Box 360 didn't seem to offer much especially since backwards compatibility was rubbish and through an emulator only. Not to mention the reliability issues.
 
Rams said:
fecking hell... I don't even know why I feel the urge to defend myself...

1) From the figures I have seen the total sales of XBOX360 is far higher then PS3 to date. As I said, PS3 has a lot of catching up to do.
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PS3 is outselling XB360 on a worldwide basis now, it has always outsold it in Asia and will around April probably have sold more units in total in Europe. This leaves the USA where it is starting to pick up nicely. This was never really in doubt.

Rams said:
2) In respect of digital TV, I mean digital signal instead of analogue signal. Thus not necessary watching programmes in HD format. With a normal tube telly you don’t tell the difference. When you have LCD TV the picture from normal analogue signal looks terrible. People want LCD TV because you can have a massive screen without taking up half your living space (amongst other reasons).

What you are also seeing is that people are forced to go digital. After going to digital signal, consumers are more likely to purchase an LCD screen. And when buying a LCD screen they are most likely to get one HD ready.
Further to this, interactive services, such as BBC I, are much nicer to use on a wide picture format.
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There is not much HD content though is there, not in Europe in any case? People are forced to go digital, but one hell of a lot of that is still standard definition set top boxes. The argument is moot - like any technological change. There were many people that still bought VHS tapes when a HD based recorder with a DVD in it were not that much more expensive. Many people stuck to tape and vynil but it didn't stop the march of CD. Recently we've had a backwards trend with MP3.

The reason is that there is a significant proportion of people who will buy a new TV either through necessity because their old one fails, or they actually want one. Now, many of these people will also want to take advantage of what this LCD or Plamas TV can do, and they will move towards Blu-ray disc.

What you are trying to say Rams defies logic and also defies history. The CD is here, the DVD is here, the LCD screens are here. The CRT (the Plasma is its relative), the Video Tape, the Vynil Record are all but gone - as soon will be the DVD.
 
WeasteDevil said:
PS3 is outselling XB360 on a worldwide basis now, it has always outsold it in Asia and will around April probably have sold more units in total in Europe. This leaves the USA where it is starting to pick up nicely. This was never really in doubt.



There is not much HD content though is there, not in Europe in any case? People are forced to go digital, but one hell of a lot of that is still standard definition set top boxes. The argument is moot - like any technological change. There were many people that still bought VHS tapes when a HD based recorder with a DVD in it were not that much more expensive. Many people stuck to tape and vynil but it didn't stop the march of CD. Recently we've had a backwards trend with MP3.

The reason is that there is a significant proportion of people who will buy a new TV either through necessity because their old one fails, or they actually want one. Now, many of these people will also want to take advantage of what this LCD or Plamas TV can do, and they will move towards Blu-ray disc.

What you are trying to say Rams defies logic and also defies history. The CD is here, the DVD is here, the LCD screens are here. The CRT (the Plasma is its relative), the Video Tape, the Vynil Record are all but gone - as soon will be the DVD.
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Unless they sell Blu Ray recorders for much cheaper then they are now, people won't flok to buy Blu Ray. The difference in quality of picture is for the average consumer just to small to justify forking out an extra 1,000 EUR for Blu Ray player. And unless you're a gamer, consumers will not buy a PS3 just for Blu Ray. A marketing mistake by Sony.

Anyway, what I was saying that the consumers purchase of LCD is not fueled by HD TV/BLu Ray or whatever, which you seem to agree with, I think....

I do agree with your point that once you have an HD ready telly, you are more likely to purchase HD related items.
 
PS3 seems to have just had its first month outselling the XB360 in the US (even outsold its little brother). It also seems that it almost outsold Wii in January.

Nintendo Wii 274k
PlayStation 3 269k
PlayStation 2 264k
Nintendo DS 251k
Sony PSP 230k
Xbox 360 230k

We can bring into that what we wish, but I'm quite sure that Warner going Blu-ray had a little bit to do with it (Wonder what a $100 price drop could do?).
 
WeasteDevil said:
Digital TV?

Point 1. Most people in Europe do not have HD digital TV.

Point 2. The easiest way at this moment in time (and I would say the next 2 - 3 years in time) to access HD content is through Blu-ray disc.

1080p broadcasting is not coming along very quickly for the masses.
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:lol: That sucks!
 
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